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Filipis

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Your English is just fine brother.

Sorry if I came a bit too strong against the MC. I didn't mean to bash the MC, I think he is okay as he is at the start but as the game is progressing he needs to improve too. When I said the MC should be better I don't mean immediately just eventually. It's true a wise king should surround himself with powerful allies but he himself should have at least a modicum of strength or else he will have to dance to the tunes of the others. I don't mean that Elin or the queen would betray him or anything, he can depend on them from time to time but he should not be entirely reliant on them or others around him. Also I don't think if the MC is strong the LI's will be irrelevant. Given the state of the world even if he is strong he needs all the help he can get to succeed. For now it is okay for him to be dependent on others as he is out of his depth but sooner or later he should have a plan/agenda of his own. As of now when I think of the characters it reminds me of that three dragons meme where others are looking fierce with MC being the one with bulgy eyes looking derpy among them.

As for the perks I agree it helps relating to main LI's a bit, but I think it's too much effort for the dev for little payoff. Also he doesn't need to be super talented or anything like some of the LI's but at least he should feel competent which I don't feel like he is especially in my mage run(which I consider my main playthrough). It need not be immediate but at least he should get better down the line. My issue is just he doesn't show any signs of even wanting to improve his skills as of now though it might change given time. As for behaving like a sovereign you are right that he needs some time and face more challenges before growing into that role.

Anyway my overall take is just that if the MC wants to be a strong ruler he has a lot of growing to do be it character or skills/strength/scheming and I'm pretty hopeful that the dev has plans for it in the future.
I agree with this take. Not that I want MC to become another OP protagonist for whom the women just fall over, but we need a training montage ASAP!

So far, most of the important choices in the story are "Choose the side of this person" or "Ally yourself with this other person".
Rarely is there an option to have MC think up a plan - instead he just follows the plans that people close to him came up with.

Game of Thrones showed us how dangerous court politics can be, but MC still hasn't fully grasped that his life and future depend on him playing his own game rather than relying on partners to guide him.

As for the Perk system tmihee : it is being wasted on just "Affinity" towards certain LIs, when it should impact the game in more ways - but this seems more of an issue of how LM didn't communicate properly the benefits of throughout the story (something only ascertained by playing the game itself).
 
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ixcez

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Your English is just fine brother.

Sorry if I came a bit too strong against the MC. I didn't mean to bash the MC, I think he is okay as he is at the start but as the game is progressing he needs to improve too. When I said the MC should be better I don't mean immediately just eventually. It's true a wise king should surround himself with powerful allies but he himself should have at least a modicum of strength or else he will have to dance to the tunes of the others. I don't mean that Elin or the queen would betray him or anything, he can depend on them from time to time but he should not be entirely reliant on them or others around him. Also I don't think if the MC is strong the LI's will be irrelevant. Given the state of the world even if he is strong he needs all the help he can get to succeed. For now it is okay for him to be dependent on others as he is out of his depth but sooner or later he should have a plan/agenda of his own. As of now when I think of the characters it reminds me of that three dragons meme where others are looking fierce with MC being the one with bulgy eyes looking derpy among them.

As for the perks I agree it helps relating to main LI's a bit, but I think it's too much effort for the dev for little payoff. Also he doesn't need to be super talented or anything like some of the LI's but at least he should feel competent which I don't feel like he is especially in my mage run(which I consider my main playthrough). It need not be immediate but at least he should get better down the line. My issue is just he doesn't show any signs of even wanting to improve his skills as of now though it might change given time. As for behaving like a sovereign you are right that he needs some time and face more challenges before growing into that role.

Anyway my overall take is just that if the MC wants to be a strong ruler he has a lot of growing to do be it character or skills/strength/scheming and I'm pretty hopeful that the dev has plans for it in the future.
The only thing at the moment really pointing at the MC being chosen/special is the fact that his blood somehow turns vampires into hulk versions.
 

Uriel ☁

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Any theory about what the "moonlight" blood can be referring to?
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Iron blood is certainly from the king's side.
Given the speech about twins being reflection, the one with moonlight blood could be MC's cousins. The first thing that comes to mind would be werewolf blood. Vampire are already in the game but I don't remember a single mention to werewolfs, so I dunno.
 
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There should be a third choice in this scene. I don't like the coup nor the "Golden Order" Because if you agree to the coup it's look like Cassandra is "Controlling" you or being influenced by her. Then if you reject the offer you are now following the "Golden Order" which I don't give a shit about it really. If there are a third option which Mc decides to himself instead of following these two paths. It would be like Bing Chilling the fk out your ass out Cassandra wait for me to be a king or Emperor and I will fix these problems in the Empire. The thing is Cassandra is scared of the Mc follows the "Golden Order" and the Mc will be just like the King, in which what happened if you reject her offer respect the "Golden Order" said by the Mc. Like shut the fk up Mc, I'm not following no one.

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thefattestcat

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There should be a third choice in this scene. I don't like the coup nor the "Golden Order" Because if you agree to the coup it's look like Cassandra is "Controlling" you or being influenced by her. Then if you reject the offer you are now following the "Golden Order" which I don't give a shit about it really. If there are a third option which Mc decides to himself instead of following these two paths. It would be like Bing Chilling the fk out your ass out Cassandra wait for me to be a king or Emperor and I will fix these problems in the Empire. The thing is Cassandra is scared of the Mc follows the "Golden Order" and the Mc will be just like the King, in which what happened if you reject her offer respect the "Golden Order" said by the Mc. Like shut the fk up Mc, I'm not following no one.

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yea problem with following established characters sometimes is that they are limited by the devs own knowledge and personality. meaning if the dev isn't familiar with how a smart person would act, then protag can come off brain dead. dev doesn't know music, musician protag comes off as tone deaf etc.

dev thinks being "strong" is wimping out and sticking to a bad system they KNOW is bad, this happens.

seriously both of those options were ass. where's the third where Cassandra keeps her dignity and we avoid the coup? i.e a solution a smart protaginist with balls would figure out? killing her doesn't count.
 
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storm1051787

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There should be a third choice in this scene. I don't like the coup nor the "Golden Order" Because if you agree to the coup it's look like Cassandra is "Controlling" you or being influenced by her. Then if you reject the offer you are now following the "Golden Order" which I don't give a shit about it really. If there are a third option which Mc decides to himself instead of following these two paths. It would be like Bing Chilling the fk out your ass out Cassandra wait for me to be a king or Emperor and I will fix these problems in the Empire. The thing is Cassandra is scared of the Mc follows the "Golden Order" and the Mc will be just like the King, in which what happened if you reject her offer respect the "Golden Order" said by the Mc. Like shut the fk up Mc, I'm not following no one.

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yea problem with following established characters sometimes is that they are limited by the devs own knowledge and personality. meaning if the dev isn't familiar with how a smart person would act, then protag can come off brain dead. dev doesn't know music, musician protag comes off as tone deaf etc.

dev thinks being "strong" is wimping out and sticking to a bad system they KNOW is bad, this happens.

seriously both of those options were ass. where's the third where Cassandra keeps her dignity and we avoid the coup? i.e a solution a smart protaginist with balls would figure out? killing her doesn't count.

I honestly don't really see how ignoring the coup really does anything story wise or is really benificial. It sounds more like you're jut saying you don't care about the coup there for it's bad idea rather than actually listing why it's a bad idea. Like the option to just what for the king to kick the bucket. How many years would that take? How many times is the king going to continuously make decisions they feel is harmful to the empire/kingdom? Is Cass just supposed to accept the fact that her father likely murdered her mother?
 

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I honestly don't really see how ignoring the coup really does anything story wise or is really benificial. It sounds more like you're jut saying you don't care about the coup there for it's bad idea rather than actually listing why it's a bad idea. Like the option to just what for the king to kick the bucket. How many years would that take? How many times is the king going to continuously make decisions they feel is harmful to the empire/kingdom? Is Cass just supposed to accept the fact that her father likely murdered her mother?
my suggestion would be a hail mary by MC where he (depending on standing and character class) can convince her to wait and trust him. king gets poisoned and she's like "holy shit how'd he know?!"

could also involve Isis using her spies to figure out king was already poisoned, and MC uses this to convince her a coup is not necessary. This requires a high relationship with both Isis (to get intel) and Cass (to convince her to wait).

could argue this isn't 'realistic' but neither is magic nor your little sister being THIS desperate to jump your meat.... or your future 'daughter' too with Isis for that matter. (i've seen enough of these games to know where that relationship is heading).
 

storm1051787

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then just do second option?
Which again, does absolutely nothing to solve any of the issues the characters are having. Plus it doesn't make any sense. The fact the father was posioned is the whole reason they are doing the coup in the first place. Like I said it sounds like the issue is jut that you dislike the idea of the coup, and the fact the game focuses the coup to happen.
 

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Which again, does absolutely nothing to solve any of the issues the characters are having. Plus it doesn't make any sense. The fact the father was posioned is the whole reason they are doing the coup in the first place. Like I said it sounds like the issue is jut that you dislike the idea of the coup, and the fact the game focuses the coup to happen.
then we circle around to coup being stupid. why overthrow a dead man? a comatose dead man for that matter.
 

thefattestcat

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He doesn't become the unopposed regent without the coup. With the coup either Cass and the MC or the MC alone have pretty much complete control of the kingdom.
bro this is not a black or white solution he CAN do that without a stupid coup. he can decide whether or not to execute Cass without opposition to either decision.
 

thefattestcat

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Without the coup, MC would have to wait until his Father died of other causes.
The coup ensures that it happens immediately.
There is a vast difference mate.
there is nothing stopping him from doing that while his father is in no condition to oppose him. again, without coup.
 

storm1051787

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bro this is not a black or white solution he CAN do that without a stupid coup. he can decide whether or not to execute Cass without opposition to either decision.

Your still not giving any good reasons why the coup is stupid other than you don't like it. With the coup, mc gets full power, without the coup mc still has limited authority. It's pretty simple and it is black and white. You've provided no alternative solution that works.
 
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