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So Elin already had lesbian sex in the past? And she calls herself "virgin" with a streight face?
Meh, this story is already convoluted and the mc is infuriating. Now I'm done.
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she is virgin man I don't know what you are talking about the blood in the scene of 0.9 version proves everything. I don't know why we keep arguing over little things here.
 

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So Elin already had lesbian sex in the past? And she calls herself "virgin" with a streight face?
Meh, this story is already convoluted and the mc is infuriating. Now I'm done.
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Female virginity can have several levels depending on interpretations... There is the virgin who has never had sexual contact or at most superficial stimulation of the clitoris. The virgin who has never had penetration by a penis, but has had her hymen torn by some object. The virgin who has had relationships with one or more men, but only through oral and anal sex, keeping her hymen intact. The virgin who has never had sexual contact with another man, but has done everything with other women, including strap-on sex.
So it all depends on the point of view and what is considered virginity...
In this specific case, she should consider oral sex with another woman a type of sex, but still consider herself a virgin, something that most people would also consider.
But if you consider virginity to be the total absence of sexual experience, she would really no longer be a virgin in this scenario that you have supposed, and that you think this is not completely wrong either, everyone sees it in their own way and there is no right or wrong...
If I wrote a lot of nonsense, please forgive me because I'm already drunk hahahahah...
 

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So Elin already had lesbian sex in the past? And she calls herself "virgin" with a streight face?
Meh, this story is already convoluted and the mc is infuriating. Now I'm done.
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Don't expect harem level women in every game. (Zero mention of past sexual experience, zero flirting with anyone else, assumed to be straight as an arrow.) What completely turned me off about Elin was when she almost spilled the MC's guts into the river.
 
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Female virginity can have several levels depending on interpretations... There is the virgin who has never had sexual contact or at most superficial stimulation of the clitoris. The virgin who has never had penetration by a penis, but has had her hymen torn by some object. The virgin who has had relationships with one or more men, but only through oral and anal sex, keeping her hymen intact. The virgin who has never had sexual contact with another man, but has done everything with other women, including strap-on sex.
So it all depends on the point of view and what is considered virginity...
In this specific case, she should consider oral sex with another woman a type of sex, but still consider herself a virgin, something that most people would also consider.
But if you consider virginity to be the total absence of sexual experience, she would really no longer be a virgin in this scenario that you have supposed, and that you think this is not completely wrong either, everyone sees it in their own way and there is no right or wrong...
If I wrote a lot of nonsense, please forgive me because I'm already drunk hahahahah...
I mean it depends on what each person values on what determines the lost of virginity.
Some may say virginity was lost when she had her first sexual experience, others will say virginity was lost with the MC.

I will say that Elin did indeed lost her virginity to the MC due to gaining experience with him in heterosexual relations at least in my opinion. Depends on perspective.
 

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Alright, I've now finished every playthrough (6 of the 7) that I'm willing to do for this update. I'll do the Cass Death on the White Path next update or close to it's release since I don't have my old saves for it and 1.0 is going to be huge. Also because I've played nothing but this game non stop in the past 2 days now and I'm already starting to feel that little thumping inside my head when I read some text lol. Anyway, I won't bother listing the builds of the other 4 playthroughs. Don't need this to turn into an even larger wall of text. I'll do it at 1.0 though.


- My favorite scene of the update is hands down Warrior MC killing dozens of men. The slaughter was just so good. Mage and Bookworm slacking a lot. Like, Mage MC has some form of Tk that he used on Val and the Peasant but didn't use it to make some of the rebels kill themselves or their swords pivot into their allies? Even if he's not good at magic, that ability used in short burst would've did well in combat. Bookworm Elis, nothing to say. His only job is to rizz vampires and spit game with his elven language. Anything other than him using his big brain is asking too much.

- Which faction I liked siding with the most? After all of these playthroughs, the Nobles. Personally, I think they're better than Rebels and the whole Black Scythe side Cass was doing. The noble side is a bunch of old, but familiar dudes that aren't too far from their deathbed and getting them to be loyal seems smarter. Making it easier for MC to control the remaining younger members of their faction when the old heads die in a decade or so. Especially with Lockhart and Valerian in those high positions next lol. So for me, killing off their younger, more rebellious generation while they're in the wrong is better than letting them grow stronger over time and being a potential issue. Also, because I don't like the Elves using them to get an upper hand behind the scenes. As for which one was awful. That was the pacifist path with Catalina. Jeez, did I not like that one. Rebels path was alright, but it doesn't really work on any of my routes with what I like to do. If further scenes with Josephine require that path then I'll do it.

- Best sex scene of the update? I actually didn't like Elin scenes all that much. Both of her lust and love scenes felt like something that should've happened already and was almost predictable in how it would happen. I wouldn't say it was disappointing, but it's definitely not as hot after such the wait it took to get to that point. Legit was more turned on by her BJ when Elis dominated her. That likely speaks more of me than the scene quality though. So with Elin eliminated, that leaves Seraphina vs Cass vs Valeria. Cass gets eliminated immediately, but her scene was better than Elin. So with the sisters out of the run, that leaves the milfs. And I would say Valeria edges Seraphina. Largely because a handy isn't as hot when you got a thighjob several scenes prior to it. The assjob however was hot and what nearly put her over Valeria but I have to give it to her. Who said you have to conquer the west by force or with politics when you can just breed all of their noble women instead.

So that's pretty much my last remaining thoughts on the update. Next update is going to be a hell of time with all of these pregnancies showing up. Assuming they all counted at the time. One of my Elis got at least 10 pregnant women or close to it. Assuming they all were impregnated on that same playthrough. Those women being Rosa, Forest Nymph, Spring, Val, Aurora, Lia, Maya, Lydia, Valeria, Josephine and Elin. Forest Nymph and Lydia might not be on the same path and I don't remember if Josephine or Lia actually got pregnant so the number could be a bit below 10. We'll see.
 

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You guys shouldn't beat your brains off about whole prophecy thing, otherwise you'll end up like your daddy and Cass will have to save your soz asses by hunting them deceivers :whistle:
 
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she is virgin man I don't know what you are talking about the blood in the scene of 0.9 version proves everything. I don't know why we keep arguing over little things here.
So the scene I posted was just misdirection? This writing is just... It'd make a lot more sense if she explained instead of making Cass words sound like the truth. She just sounded like a liar. wtf

Don't expect harem level women in every game. (Zero mention of past sexual experience, zero flirting with anyone else, assumed to be straight as an arrow.) What completely turned me off about Elin was when she almost spilled the MC's guts into the river.
Expecting virgin women in a fantasy game is not that much honestly. Actually, since the game frames the world in our own ancient history (an interpretation of some sorts, a tolkien-like fantasy), expecting women to be californian whores is the real delusion. A woman not being virgin, specially when talking about royalty, would be reason enough to nullify a marriage, since their main worry was to preserve the royal bloodline. So the whole culture of virtue revolves around chastity. Not hedonistic pleasure like we see today.
Now... about this river scene, it just added to my "this writing is retarded" list. I chose the mage background... this scene was funny seeing how MC is useless. And after that scene, there's the whole Cass encounter scene . For someone that literally almost killed the MC some scenes prior, Elin is now suddenly really worried for his wellbeing. If the "fury of the archmage" Elin scene was made to be humorous... it failed miserably.
 
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You guys shouldn't beat your brains off about whole prophecy thing, otherwise you'll end up like your daddy and Cass will have to save your soz asses by hunting them deceivers :whistle:
Oedipus has already shown us that trying to escape a prophecy only makes you sink deeper into shit.

That's why my character doesn't even try to understand any of the riddles. He just accepts them, with a smile on his face and a hard dick between his legs
 
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Zanmori

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Well, after playing some more, it'd be absurd to imagine Elin had actual lesbian sex. She probably tried making out with some girl though, by her face when Cass had that gotcha on her. Aside from this, she acts totally "virgin" lol, and I kinda like the character. The only strange part being the river scene and her killer intent, it felt like some not well executed love hina reference.
But honestly, the way she talks about her suffering for loving MC all those years... If she actually had sex with other people because she loves him, that is some next level cuck shit right there.
But someone here said she is physically a virgin. So yeah, I guess she made out with some chick... Well, whatever. The scene could be better constructed, so we understand the characters better. But I guess it's asking too much. I rolled back and chose the boring option with interesting outcome, instead of the interesting option with boring outcome (confusing, right?).

About my judgement on the storytelling of the game, saying that the storytelling is convoluted, it was a poor choice of words. The plot is quite interesting, enough to make me curious. But the storytelling is kinda boring, specially because MC is such an ass. The convoluted part is player options... There are a lot of them and they most often than not seem unnecessarily obscure and random. But I guess, it can also be a roleplaying thingy? I don't know, for now, I don't really like it.
 

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So the scene I posted was just misdirection? This writing is just... It'd make a lot more sense if she explained instead of making Cass words sound like the truth. She just sounded like a liar. wtf


Expecting virgin women in a fantasy game is not that much honestly. Actually, since the game frames the world in our own ancient history (an interpretation of some sorts, a tolkien-like fantasy), expecting women to be californian whores is the real delusion. A woman not being virgin, specially when talking about royalty, would be reason enough to nullify a marriage, since their main worry was to preserve the royal bloodline. So the whole culture of virtue revolves around chastity. Not hedonistic pleasure like we see today.
Now... about this river scene, it just added to my "this writing is retarded" list. I chose the mage background... this scene was funny seeing how MC is useless. And after that scene, there's the whole Cass encounter scene . For someone that literally almost killed the MC some scenes prior, Elin is now suddenly really worried for his wellbeing. If the "fury of the archmage" Elin scene was made to be humorous... it failed miserably.
Well, the royal princess in question can always take a dick up the ass and keep her "virginity."

What I find funniest is that you believe that hedonism is a trait only of our contemporary society.

Have you ever heard of Messalina?
or Agrippina? Or Saeculum obscurum , also known as the Rule of the Harlots or the Pornocracy,?
 
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Elin's scenes were dissapointing ngl. Should've been hotter/more involved after all that build up
Only the Dom version of the sex scene with Elin was worth the build up. But otherwise, they were slightly disappointing for the importance they present.
 

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Only dom version was good, the other version whatever that was was extremely lame scene not erotic in the slightest.
Yeah, I feel like the sex scenes for Lia, Elin, Cass, and Queen should be given more thought - I can't believe characters like Josephine and Valeria have way more erotic sex scenes than the main LIs...
 
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