VN Ren'Py Inanna Revenge [Ep.2] [AtemX Games]

[Silwith]

Yeah, could have done without Emilie 2.0, already wasn't a fan of that Model in AlwaysFan, but otherwise I very much enjoyed the update...
And the new subscribers and people coming on the Discord ect? Well, that shows he is doing something right, so why would he not consider it positively... taking random people on f95 that would never support either way makes much less sense as a metric then the actual numbers going up...

 

[DressedToThrill]

Yeah, could have done without Emilie 2.0, already wasn't a fan of that Model in AlwaysFan

I get it. I liked the character, but it was despite the model was a bit out of the ordinary.

But there's something hilarious about our MC, who's kind of choosing his maid based on is memory of jerking off to her AlwaysFan-porn before he got isekaied.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Just gonna say here (as opposed to Discord, cause that place feels a little too much like an echo-chamber of sorts) that I saw the latest public devlog that AtemX posted post-update... And idk man, felt very intellectually dishonest.

Don't wanna go n a rant or create drama, really, but when the dev himself comes off saying that the latest update was received with an overwhelmingly positive rating... that makes me question many things. What I saw was that the patch, while overall good, was also pretty highly divisive.

Idk, maybe he's looking at the metrics on only some places/platforms and ignoring others completely, but it felt really off for me.

That's all, carry on.

Yea but an "overwhelmingly positive rating" doesn't mean the entire thing was received overwhelmingly positive. Having complaints doesn't mean someone is going to thumbs the game down, or say the update wasn't overall good. And if that was the case with anyone. They contributed to that positive rating. Even if they had complaints.

Then when it comes to f95. How many of us are even in here? Ain't never been in the discord and don't think I've looked at the itch.io page. So idk what our numbers are compared. But it don't seem like it's that many of us in here. And everyone here wasn't majorly disappointed with the update. And for those who were, would they thumbs it down? or still give it a thumbs up? Even within the context of this website. I think it would still be on the positive side.

 

[Ka1tzer]

Yea but an "overwhelmingly positive rating" doesn't mean the entire thing was received overwhelmingly positive. Having complaints doesn't mean someone is going to thumbs the game down, or say the update wasn't overall good. And if that was the case with anyone. They contributed to that positive rating. Even if they had complaints.

Then when it comes to f95. How many of us are even in here? Ain't never been in the discord and don't think I've looked at the itch.io page. So idk what our numbers are compared. But it don't seem like it's that many of us in here. And everyone here wasn't majorly disappointed with the update. And for those who were, would they thumbs it down? or still give it a thumbs up? Even within the context of this website. I think it would still be on the positive side.

I believe f95 is arguably the biggest avn platform, all things considered. Anytime something leaks here, for just about any game, it's in all the other secondary sites within hours. But as with any platform, most users are lurkers, or don't engage very proactively.

And maybe I worded it wrongly. It wasn't stated that the overall rating was overwhelmingly positive, but the feedback on the latest episode. To quote directly from the free patreon post:

"...[5th Paragraph] As for the feedback on the episode, it's been overwhelmingly positive. At the time of writing this, the average rating on Itch.io is 4.8 out of 5. Huge thanks to everyone who left a review! Or course, I'm also keeping an eye on constructive criticism - if something comes up that seems relevant, I'll definitely take into account for future updates"

This to me felt rather intellectually dishonest, since it does seem like only select platforms (like Itch) are being considered regarding the metrics, along with a seeming dismissal over the concerns and issues had with the update. And from what I saw of the reception, it was decent. Good, even with that big hubbub over the princess' scene. But it wasn't overwhelmingly positive.

Maybe among the subs it was. I myself left a positive review on Itch (shame I can't copy + paste in there for some reason so I'd enter into more detail what was discussed here, but I digress). Even here in f95 the game's overall rating is absolutely positive. Combing through the comments after the update, the story changes though.

And I think that matters. I myself didn't write a review here with a low rating. I don't want to hurt the game or the dev, and I know that ratings are pretty important in getting more eyes on the work. I chose to wait to hear and see from the dev how the game was gonna go forwards and if the concerns would be addressed. And I'm sure many folks don't make a habit of making rated reviews after every update, or update their ratings if they have written one for the game.

And I completely understand one wanting to be and stay positive in order to have the best narrative possible when doing their pitch, but the way it was worded - including the bit about looking at feedback when what I saw was mostly dismissal or a double-down/self justification felt very off to me.

Those were just my impressions though.

 

[Silwith]

And I think that matters.

Does it tho? Why? Because F95 is big? Why should he care about a big audience of people that don't pay? Again, the metric of opinion of the people that do support him is arguably much more important then what people on F95 say... especially considering that there are ALWAYS people that would never support ANY game in f95 threads complaining...

So, if his Patreon Numbers go up more then they ever have, which seems to be the case and the reception he gets from people that are involved enough to be on the discord ect (and therefore much more likely to be supporters or at least open to be supporters) is overwhelmingly positive, then thats that...

 

[jadepaladin]

His bashing of F95 leads to this conversation which takes the focus off of his content and puts it on his words which isn't ideal. Promote your product positively, through humor, praise, optimism, whatever it takes. Anything you do that isn't promoting your product is a distraction.

Edit- I'm literally on drugs or something.

 

[pitao]

I read that devlog more than once and I still don't see AtemX "bashing" on F95, unless people infer that from the "not mentioning the forum name" thingy. That isn't bashing, they wrote it on Patreon and of course wouldn't name a pirate site there. I wouldn't in their shoes.

If they wanted to bash F95 they could use their discord server and for what I've notice that never happen as well. They are just sad for such an early leak, said what they had to say and moved on. No wonder less and less developers interact here on the site in their own game threads, when people take out of proportion any word they say.

 

[jadepaladin]

I read that devlog more than once and I still don't see AtemX "bashing" on F95, unless people infer that from the "not mentioning the forum name" thingy. That isn't bashing, they wrote it on Patreon and of course wouldn't name a pirate site there. I wouldn't in their shoes.

If they wanted to bash F95 they could use their discord server and for what I've notice that never happen as well. They are just sad for such an early leak, said what they had to say and moved on. No wonder less and less developers interact here on the site in their own game threads, when people take out of proportion any word they say.

All of this makes sense, you're right. Kinda wondering where my head was at when I made the original post.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

I believe f95 is arguably the biggest avn platform, all things considered. Anytime something leaks here, for just about any game, it's in all the other secondary sites within hours. But as with any platform, most users are lurkers, or don't engage very proactively.

And maybe I worded it wrongly. It wasn't stated that the overall rating was overwhelmingly positive, but the feedback on the latest episode. To quote directly from the free patreon post:

"...[5th Paragraph] As for the feedback on the episode, it's been overwhelmingly positive. At the time of writing this, the average rating on Itch.io is 4.8 out of 5. Huge thanks to everyone who left a review! Or course, I'm also keeping an eye on constructive criticism - if something comes up that seems relevant, I'll definitely take into account for future updates"

This to me felt rather intellectually dishonest, since it does seem like only select platforms (like Itch) are being considered regarding the metrics, along with a seeming dismissal over the concerns and issues had with the update. And from what I saw of the reception, it was decent. Good, even with that big hubbub over the princess' scene. But it wasn't overwhelmingly positive.

Maybe among the subs it was. I myself left a positive review on Itch (shame I can't copy + paste in there for some reason so I'd enter into more detail what was discussed here, but I digress). Even here in f95 the game's overall rating is absolutely positive. Combing through the comments after the update, the story changes though.

And I think that matters. I myself didn't write a review here with a low rating. I don't want to hurt the game or the dev, and I know that ratings are pretty important in getting more eyes on the work. I chose to wait to hear and see from the dev how the game was gonna go forwards and if the concerns would be addressed. And I'm sure many folks don't make a habit of making rated reviews after every update, or update their ratings if they have written one for the game.

And I completely understand one wanting to be and stay positive in order to have the best narrative possible when doing their pitch, but the way it was worded - including the bit about looking at feedback when what I saw was mostly dismissal or a double-down/self justification felt very off to me.

Those were just my impressions though.

But I'm not speaking on f95 as a whole. Was talking about this thread. It's why I brought up not knowing the discord or itch.io numbers compared, and saying it ain't many of us. But I'm gonna be completely honest. I think you're reading waaaayyy to much into that comment.

But how is it dishonest? It was about celebrating the itch.io score and reception there. It wasn't about addressing issues. Regardless of complaints, 4.85 out of 5 is indeed overwhelmingly positive. You even admit that you left a positive review there, contributing to it. Even if you and others have complaints in the reviews. That does not change the actual reception of the entire release nor the score. The update is more then the few issues people had. And "overwhelmingly positive" does not mean perfectly received. But what other platform was to be brought up? f95? This is a piracy website. Why would they try to reference a piracy website? Especially when they were bothered when an early release was leaked here?

Like I'm legit confused. The comment was not supposed to be taken how you seem to be taking it.

 

[Ka1tzer]

But I'm not speaking on f95 as a whole. Was talking about this thread. It's why I brought up not knowing the discord or itch.io numbers compared, and saying it ain't many of us. But I'm gonna be completely honest. I think you're reading waaaayyy to much into that comment.

But how is it dishonest? It was about celebrating the itch.io score and reception there. It wasn't about addressing issues. Regardless of complaints, 4.85 out of 5 is indeed overwhelmingly positive. You even admit that you left a positive review there, contributing to it. Even if you and others have complaints in the reviews. That does not change the actual reception of the entire release nor the score. The update is more then the few issues people had. And "overwhelmingly positive" does not mean perfectly received. But what other platform was to be brought up? f95? This is a piracy website. Why would they try to reference a piracy website? Especially when they were bothered when an early release was leaked here?

Like I'm legit confused. The comment was not supposed to be taken how you seem to be taking it.

Maybe you're right. I could and might be reading too much into it, yeah.

I guess it felt dishonest due to me seeing a lot of people giving feedback that says otherwise in here, myself included. That in addition to the comment of "looking at constructive feedback" that felt like hogwash.

But I think you got a point there, yeah, I'm likely reading way too much into it.

S'all good.

 

[BlueArrow]

Played Alwaysfan after finding this game and spotted this early bird cameo of Innana Revenge characters



Wonder if it has any story implications considering the ending of the current update

 

[megazi]

Could someone help me get past the clue mission? I already have all the clues, I don't know which ones I should mark

 

[Sossse]

Could someone help me get past the clue mission? I already have all the clues, I don't know which ones I should mark

mark everything that gives more text for "dark elf"

 

[natecali23]

bigger obviously.
leaks undeniably causes people to not to do that investment to get early access.

I would bet smaller. Games like BaDik would have a fraction of the supporters if not for leak sites like this one. It brings so many more eyes to the games. Yes, a lot will just pirate them and never support, but there will be tons who play the pirated game, enjoy it, and then support the dev.

 

[Daermon420]

I would bet smaller. Games like BaDik would have a fraction of the supporters if not for leak sites like this one. It brings so many more eyes to the games. Yes, a lot will just pirate them and never support, but there will be tons who play the pirated game, enjoy it, and then support the dev.

Games like BaDik never have free versions released, so of course they'd fall behind if it wasn't leaked here eventually to keep it relevant on this site and more eyes on it.

Inanna Revenge though goes free to download only a week after release on their official channels. It doesn't need a leak at all to stay updated on this site and get eyes on it. It'd get updated here in a week even with no leak needed, while giving the dev a week of people willing to pay for early access, which some absolutely would if it didn't leak so quickly.

There's a big difference between how those 2 games are distributed and monetized.

 

[pitao]

Games like BaDik never have free versions released, so of course they'd fall behind if it wasn't leaked here eventually to keep it relevant on this site and more eyes on it.

Inanna Revenge though goes free to download only a week after release on their official channels. It doesn't need a leak at all to stay updated on this site and get eyes on it. It'd get updated here in a week even with no leak needed, while giving the dev a week of people willing to pay for early access, which some absolutely would if it didn't leak so quickly.

There's a big difference between how those 2 games are distributed and monetized.

Yep and I always download the Itch.io free download when goes public since it helps the developer, at least AtemX said so. I don't have budget for AVNs but I can help by increasing the download count or like having a link for this game thread on my signature, even if is just a tiny help because I don't really put money on it.

 

[Sossse]

Yep and I always download the Itch.io free download when goes public since it helps the developer, at least AtemX said so. I don't have budget for AVNs but I can help by increasing the download count or like having a link for this game thread on my signature, even if is just a tiny help because I don't really put money on it.

yes, if a games as it THIS quality, then you rly should show at least some form of appreciation. and if dev says downloading it from itch help, so be it. i persoaly go with the formula that if i dont support a game via monthly donations i can at least drop 5 bugs or so when an update comes out. even if its only to motivate the dev a little

 

[BigCosyStoryFan]

Yep and I always download the Itch.io free download when goes public since it helps the developer, at least AtemX said so.

If a dev actually uploads an itch.io app-compatible version, I also always download it, regardless of whether it leaks here or not (even if I'm backing it and I've already got the Patreon release). I'm not sure how much the leak impacted subscription rates in this case, but I can understand the concern there, as much as the concern for itch metrics taking a hit.

I know someone already raised it, but here are devs/projects I'd happily give a lump sum of money to, but backing via Patreon is unappealing for a number of reasons, so I tend to limit my exposure to it (not least of which being the currency conversion and other fees).

 

[LinkBox88]

Wow! I'm super impressed!

I love this Isekai experience. I love the morality system and just the stupid amount of choices you get to make to shape the actions of the MC. I like how you aren't forced into feeling one way or the other. You do as you please and the world reacts to your moves.

More than anything I'm impressed by the sheer amount of content this game already has half a year since the first release. It's so refreshing to be able to dig into an update for hours on end rather than getting a couple of new scenes every few months like most of the projects that come through here.

 

[rero13]

Haha, even if that goddess messed up (yeah sure) and threw the MC in prison, her sister is the hotter one anyway