- Thread starter Fallen Eros
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- Apr 28, 2017
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And just like i predicted, people wont see the so called hana update until mid year
says "for March members", but it never says it will be delivered on March, instead is the signature "whenever i feel like releasing it"
- Dec 23, 2019
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Considering Hana is last on the list and we're only just now on version 0.1 of the other game, I wouldn't expect a Hana update until July if I'm being generous.
It's sad, I've been waiting to buy the full game on release, and now Eros goes typical "muh writer's block/I need to prolong this" indie dev. Why not just work on the storyboard for the new game while you finish the current one instead of trying to develop both at the same time? This is why mfs are always losing "inspiration" and can't finish a project, because they're flying by the seat of their pants and need to figure out what to do on every update instead of having a rough draft to work off of. And if you need inspiration, why not play other NTR/NTS games, read doujins, see what different set ups and scenarios people have worked with, you know, do topic research.
- Apr 28, 2017
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yeah, as i said, at least until mid year, at the bare minimum
now, for the other part of the comment, it does make sense, and i agree with everything you said, but you are missing a detail: writers block, inspiration, bla bla, is just a lie
all these "devs" never get this so called "block" or "lack of inspiration", its just about milking, and if they did a rough storyboard/plan, they'd actually work effectively and mostly seamlessly, but we can't have that, can we?, it would lead to actually finishing projects, and finishing projects can make people stop supporting, since the project they are interested in is over
this is also why these "devs" love to start new stuff before finishing the previous one, so they can try to gather interest on a new project while holding the current supporters "hostage", hoping that a new update of what they are interested in comes out (in this case, hana)
- Dec 23, 2019
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There's a lot of blatant milking going on, but I don't think it's always done purposefully. We're also dealing with fresh faced solo devs learning how to make games on the fly, so I wouldn't put it past there also being a lot bad planning leading to roadblocks and shitty scheduling. It's just, sometimes those roadblocks also give you an excuse to milk, which I think Eros is doing now.
For longevity's sake, it's smart to have an idea for a new project and start writing drafts for it before finishing the current one. I just don't think it should be in full development until the very end of the current one (enough time to have a demo ready).
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this game has been ongoing for a full 2 years now, there's no "fresh and learning" here, specially considering how much time Fallen spends on just updating DRM instead of on the actual updates
also, these "devs" (not just Fallen) always start off very productive, updating frequently, and its when they amass a considerably good supporter base that they start falling off, increasing update times, updates start to be shorter, etc
if it was a case of "they are learning" it should be the other way around, becoming more productive as they learn more, but its the complete oposite, the more they learn, themore mediocre and apart the updates become, which means these devs learn 1 thing only as time progresses: how to milk
- Oct 8, 2018
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In cases like this, what good devs tend to do is to pause their Patreon. Go on a holiday, do some topic research like you mentioned.
- Dec 23, 2019
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Not "fresh faced" as in they just started a week ago, I mean it's probably the first and only game project they've ever worked on, so there's a lack of experience. Being self taught isn't the most efficient way to learn because sometimes you just end up following a basic routine instead of learning to be more efficient, so your personal progress stalls.
I'm not defending the milking, I'm just saying Eros seems like he started off well, got himself burned out by having to think too much each update (not having an outline and trying to be a master security specialist), so he ended up doing the ADHD indie dev routine of jumping ahead to a new project so that he doesn't have to take a break (stop billing) to figure out what to do next.
I'm not defending the milking, I'm just saying Eros seems like he started off well, got himself burned out by having to think too much each update (not having an outline and trying to be a master security specialist), so he ended up doing the ADHD indie dev routine of jumping ahead to a new project so that he doesn't have to take a break (stop billing) to figure out what to do next.
I completely agree with this comment.
After leaving the IWH game out of the blue and without notice and starting another project due to an alleged "lack of inspiration", it seems as if everything was done on the fly, without any direction or defined script...
What happened to all the "fresh and juicy" ideas you used to brag about? Why are you developing multiple projects in a big way if you are only one developer in charge of your games? Isn't it the case that since you are only one person in charge of everything, the most convenient thing to do would be to do one job at a time?
Anyway, when I saw the poll that Fallen had done before, I realized that the people who supported IWH were thinking the same thing: buy the game in its entirety when it was finished.
What a coincidence that right after the poll was closed, a short time later it was decided to leave it incomplete and continue with a "sequel" of a route out of nowhere, which is also not (or was not) the route of the "official ending".
Is weird to have a creative block when 85% of the game is pretty much done. I think one bull for the game is more than enough. He should make Gravure and onsen revenge a dlc or something because they both feel to me like an extension of the main story.
- Oct 8, 2018
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Gravure was originally going to be a DLC, then it got made into its own release
I for one am pretty excited about the new project Lustful Wife Aiko
The wife's design looks hot as fuck, and the bull/NTR Guy looks handsome, definitely feels like the kind of guy whom I could believe women would fall for in-universe.
I look forward to how it develops.
The wife's design looks hot as fuck, and the bull/NTR Guy looks handsome, definitely feels like the kind of guy whom I could believe women would fall for in-universe.
I look forward to how it develops.
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Hi, little buddy, you can play the whole game right now without waiting for years of "intense development"!!. The game is called: "A Promise Best Left Unkept".
And if you are not completely convinced, you can still try this other game: "Marina's Cuckolding Report".
It's another game that, coincidentally, is also very similar to Fallen's game
, but I can promise you that they are two "completely different" kinds of games, believe me!!
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Will there be animationHi, little buddy, you can play the whole game right now without waiting for years of "intense development"!!. The game is called: "A Promise Best Left Unkept".
And if you are not completely convinced, you can still try this other game: "Marina's Cuckolding Report".
It's another game that, coincidentally, is also very similar to Fallen's game
What is super funny to me is how developers, whether indie or AAA, don't understand that if you are a decent person and try not to scam your customers they would stay with you through thick and thin. Fallen could have finished this game as promised and I guarantee you he would have had the patreon's backings for the foreseeable future because people knew that he would deliver on his promise even if it took a while. Now people look at him as this bad faith guy that is constantly trying to tae their money witout offering anything in return.
I wish they would stop with the blonde bull trope, its honestly a turn off to see that kind of guy in any game.Hi, little buddy, you can play the whole game right now without waiting for years of "intense development"!!. The game is called: "A Promise Best Left Unkept".
And if you are not completely convinced, you can still try this other game: "Marina's Cuckolding Report".
It's another game that, coincidentally, is also very similar to Fallen's game