Ren'Py Innocence or Money [S2 E3] [MarcialART]

[Maviarab]

What is the escort path mav? Isn't it the same as advancing in the massage therapist job? .

I would imagine it would advance (if the dev being logical about it) by going back to the club (hopefully alone) and seeing the escort there again. That would make the most sense from a story pov given Rick's companion (can't recall her name) is one.

I suppose it could branch from the massage parlour path also but would be nice if was seperate as like the cafe job, I will assume if we keep refusing to do 'extras' then that option will close off to us. Given the modern world, I'm very surprised there are no female visitors to the parlour, that could have been an interesting branch there, tell Mrs Rose that you are happy to serve female clients. Alas, seems the dev has not even thought of this.

 

[HikBenAkk]

HikBenAkk pls provide the info of weekend news

I will reply but keep in mind that Forix is right.
No need to keep track weekly about the dev's posts when you are not a subscriber. And I am not here just to be this dev's spokesperson.

Ok ?

On Saturday :

I'm planning on dedicating 1 or max 2 more weeks to add more animations, the update will have over 500+ animations. (I can keep adding more forever , so I'm putting a deadline of 1 or 2 weeks because this is what takes the most time on each update.)

Right now, I'm testing and adding the code for the birth control pills that I mentioned last weekend. The idea will be that there will be a subtle indicator in the HUD to let the player know if Jen has already taken a pill that day. I think I will be showing pics of this tomorrow.

I'm in the final stages of finally finishing the development of the next episode, and I can't wait to release it. As always, I will keep everyone informed.

I wish everyone an amazing weekend!

On Sunday

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Jen is heading towards John's office... Maybe he needs some paperwork done. (Lucky John! ☕)
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Nina has a mischievous look on her face... I think she knows something we don't...
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After doing some tests, probably this (on map) will be the indicator to know if Jennifer took the pill to prevent pregnancy. I'm thinking about whether to show it or not in case she took the pill, or maybe show it in black and white if she didn't take it, or blue if she did. Tomorrow I'll do some quick tests to see what looks best.

 

[HikBenAkk]

I would imagine it would advance (if the dev being logical about it) by going back to the club (hopefully alone) and seeing the escort there again. That would make the most sense from a story pov given Rick's companion (can't recall her name) is one.
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Hi Maviarab,

There are solids hints about that : the dev said many times in Discord he is willing to build a route in which MC will become an escort but he did not yet defined where it can be to started... Imho, it is still too soon : she still has to cross the line in which she "accepts" to have sex for money... So far she just started to accept to have fun with the guys who put pressure on her (some of them from the start of the game).

In fact there already are many opportunities that can make sense opening the escort route (besides club, massage center girls, the first night club with pole dances shows and whores...).

You are right about places like the club : such a line (opening escort route) cannot be crossed by herself, she must be "helped and driven" to go on this route.

Best Regards.

 

[StrangeSilver]

Did this game just died?

 

[xert13]

Did this game just died?

No. Looking at a September update.

 

[HeroHate]

Did this game just died?

As stated, I too assume it to be a late into the next month, mid month an earliest.

 

[meimei_]

I miss Jennifer

 

[chinesewarrior]

Hi Maviarab,

There are solids hints about that : the dev said many times in Discord he is willing to build a route in which MC will become an escort but he did not yet defined where it can be to started... Imho, it is still too soon : she still has to cross the line in which she "accepts" to have sex for money... So far she just started to accept to have fun with the guys who put pressure on her (some of them from the start of the game).

In fact there already are many opportunities that can make sense opening the escort route (besides club, massage center girls, the first night club with pole dances shows and whores...).

You are right about places like the club : such a line (opening escort route) cannot be crossed by herself, she must be "helped and driven" to go on this route.

Best Regards.

thats a route i would like to see for Jennifer, especially pole dances, stripping etc. I liked that in other games like Fashion Business, great for Female MC corruption.

But at this pace, Jennifer maybe become stripper towards to 2030

 

[Bigapee]

thats a route i would like to see for Jennifer, especially pole dances, stripping etc. I liked that in other games like Fashion Business, great for Female MC corruption.

But at this pace, Jennifer maybe become stripper towards to 2030

Stripper obviously seems like a route that is teased, but it seems weird to me that she'll go from being a model to being a stripper. i think the stripping route should've come sooner than some of these other ones.

 

[boulimanus]

Fashion Business is pretty poor actually.

Here, Jennifer could easily have options now. We've seen her barriers fall now, both letting herself go at the coffee shop and at home. And I reckon it's safe to say that she is now open to cheat on her bf on the regular.
The massage parlour is the obvious way to get her to accept taking money for "extras", and I think stripping could already be thinkable. But I'm not sure it would be a good one, same with escorting. Good for scenes for sure of course, but not sure it's the way the story should go.
Not my call though and I suppose options and choices are always interesting.

 

[chinesewarrior]

Fashion Business is pretty poor actually.

Here, Jennifer could easily have options now. We've seen her barriers fall now, both letting herself go at the coffee shop and at home. And I reckon it's safe to say that she is now open to cheat on her bf on the regular.
The massage parlour is the obvious way to get her to accept taking money for "extras", and I think stripping could already be thinkable. But I'm not sure it would be a good one, same with escorting. Good for scenes for sure of course, but not sure it's the way the story should go.
Not my call though and I suppose options and choices are always interesting.

IoM very lineer, you have corruption or faithful path. but in Fashion Business, you can even choose between corruption options like street whore, escort, stripping and porn; all of them or some of them.

There is another issue about Strip Club / Stripper routes that ALL porn games try to avoid usually. It is very very hard to animate correctly. Pole dancing and twerking especially. maybe with a motion capture but manually its harder than sex scenes. Pole dancing hard, and twerking even harder. Just think about how many games have seen so far that correctly include lap dancing, twerking etc. I am talking about proper animation, not just rendered images.

 

[kritoku]

You are talking days and days and days. After dev release a new update. Starting begging a Hero phase.. just after that. İ mean in hours… when is the NeXT update phase, abondoned? Phase starts. And that days and days and days asking about new release. This is kind a irritating this is zombie consuming…

 

[Citydriver]

Look promising, will be back in a year or two ...

4 years later - come back in another 5 years...

 

[chinesewarrior]

You are talking days and days and days. After dev release a new update. Starting begging a Hero phase.. just after that. İ mean in hours… when is the NeXT update phase, abondoned? Phase starts. And that days and days and days asking about new release. This is kind a irritating this is zombie consuming…

yes because this genre (VN) is basically all about contents, renders , animations. dialogue and story comes later. This is not like traditional games that you have a repetitive gameplay between the cutscenes, where playtime can take like 20 hours to finish. So this type of games mostly consumed under 1 hour. and now Dev is updating the game in 10-12 months pace, so people gets impatient.

There are only few VN games that worth playing over couple of times because of the plenty of choices , paths become complex like tree branches they have. But others like IoM have very straight lineer path so it does not take too much time to finish it, if you do not count grinding features like shower , eat, work , clean etc.

 

[Giovanni0888]

Without a doubt the best visual novel of its kind. Very confident in the future updates.

 

[kritoku]

yes because this genre (VN) is basically all about contents, renders , animations. dialogue and story comes later. This is not like traditional games that you have a repetitive gameplay between the cutscenes, where playtime can take like 20 hours to finish. So this type of games mostly consumed under 1 hour. and now Dev is updating the game in 10-12 months pace, so people gets impatient.

There are only few VN games that worth playing over couple of times because of the plenty of choices , paths become complex like tree branches they have. But others like IoM have very straight lineer path so it does not take too much time to finish it, if you do not count grinding features like shower , eat, work , clean etc.

Ty for replying, all your saying %100 right, unless you are a patreon. l meant free leechers.. obviously some one paid member of game, dont ask about game’s future..

Btw, in my opinion mc carries this game. I’m not fan of these genre but i played several game that top popular. No one has a powerful mc as IoM..

I strongly believe dev has a future plan..İf he convince his patreons, i dont think update periods wont problem. Otherwise, he should change/update his plans..

 

[HeroHate]

Is it ten months since the games last update was released? (as in to patrons, not here)

 

[HikBenAkk]

thats a route i would like to see for Jennifer, especially pole dances, stripping etc. I liked that in other games like Fashion Business, great for Female MC corruption.

But at this pace, Jennifer maybe become stripper towards to 2030

Hi chinesewarrior,

And so do I

About Fashion Business, I concur with boulimanus : poor...
Unlike this game, Fashion Business MC does not have a thrilling progression : she starts being a bitch, she stays the same bitch until "the end" (I played it two years ago if I remember well), I did not feel involved in her story and it was too grindy for me (especially the house at the beginning)... I had the feeling Fashion business was just about touring all areas of corruption in order to please players kinks... Not for me...

Here, MC is not yet ready for the corruption content you listed but she is changing : The thrilling to follow her, at least for me, comes from that...

2030 ? ^^
Steps are still required but not so long ago, some people here despaired of seeing MC being fucked and even said it will take an eternity to see it : they were wrong
It is also true that this dev has to improve about the time spent in dev between two updates... No one can deny it but he is not among the slowest as we already discussed about it.

 

[HikBenAkk]

IoM very lineer, you have corruption or faithful path. but in Fashion Business, you can even choose between corruption options like street whore, escort, stripping and porn; all of them or some of them.
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So far MC is just starting to accept having fun with guys who want to fuck her... Linear ? yes but is it a concern ? I do not think so...

Variety in content can still come

 

[HikBenAkk]

yes because this genre (VN) is basically all about contents, renders , animations. dialogue and story comes later. This is not like traditional games that you have a repetitive gameplay between the cutscenes, where playtime can take like 20 hours to finish. So this type of games mostly consumed under 1 hour. and now Dev is updating the game in 10-12 months pace, so people gets impatient.

There are only few VN games that worth playing over couple of times because of the plenty of choices , paths become complex like tree branches they have. But others like IoM have very straight lineer path so it does not take too much time to finish it, if you do not count grinding features like shower , eat, work , clean etc.

Always the same mistake... You always seem to think devs are always the most efficient (linear flow ? not much time required to make it) and take time on purpose...

There is a difference between doing our best and being as effective as possible.
I have no doubt this dev does his best BUT is he the most efficient ? In other words, did he find the best way to work given the tools he has ? I do not know how he can improve, but I think there is room to do better.

He says that animation takes a great amount of time... I also think that the fancy UI he puts in his game also takes a lot of time (be designed, coded and tested properly). Is such UI and so many animation sequences required ? I do not think so but he is the lead because only dev, so decisions belongs to him...