Darian4

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I discovered that game only a few days ago and I have to admit the art is really good and the overall impression of the game is that it’s of a way higher quality than the average H-game. Here are my few critiques, hopefully you’ll find them constructive.

We are not all fans of Harry Potter, meaning that when we have to go to a specific girl’s room we should have a hint to know if it’s Griffindor, Ravenclaw, etc…

The xray thing is unintuitive, especially since it’s on top of another clickable device (the cabinet). I had to read on this forum to find out it has a cooldown, all by myself I didn’t find a way to use it even once. Maybe using another mechanism, like a pop-up menu when we invite a girl in or making it a passive ability automatically activated when it’s possible would be better.

The IMVOIS thing is a cool idea but catastrophically implemented. It reads as a law with a lot of rules and exceptions. Just say “there is a magical protection of the female students’ virtue, and while it’s enough to protect them against inexperienced male students a trained wizard can find ways around it”. With that you can remove a painful wall of text and you can hand-wave explanations as you see fit: Here the player can’t go further with a girl because his control is too low, there he has to offer a ring forged in voyeurium to render the girl vulnerable to the xray spell without triggering the IMVOIS and so on.


As for the text being too long, I have a different opinion from most of the other posters on that forum so I will have to write something which is also quite long (sorry) to explain my points.

The problem is not that there is too much text, the problem is it’s not about the right stuff. There are so much things about the school politics which we don’t care about, it should be kept minimal. On the other hand it’s a training game, meaning it’s all about turning innocent and proud girls into submissive bitches in heat. It’s not only about seeing boobs, it’s about the girls REALLY not wanting to show their boobs but being manipulated into showing them anyway. We have to feel the struggle of the girls, their shame and awe while they wriggle like flies in the web of a carefully elaborated plan before reluctantly giving up, all the while they are unable to restrain or even comprehend an unwanted arousal. For that the text has to be convincing, meaning it has to be rather long since there is no shortcut around the negotiations and justifications, arguments and counter arguments, pretexts and rationalizations needed to describe the reluctance of the girls and how it’s overcome.

Let me give you an example. For the Hermione’s puzzle she accepts almost right away the bet, she only says she won’t get totally naked. She even offers a bonus in case of big success! It’s so off her character, there is no way a girl as prude as Hermione would accept an obvious sexual bet from the get go from a man she barely knows, let alone overbid.
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And one last thing about the writing, I haven’t played the last chapter but from what I understand there is no penetration scene with any of the main girls yet. I strongly advise against giving them an orgasm during their first time. I know I’m alone on that since every game makes girls scream in pleasure as soon as they have half a penis in them but I can explain why I'm against it.
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There is so much to write about if the girl’s pleasure is not a given but an objective. Besides, it makes the female orgasm way more rewarding for the player if he has to “work” for it, especially if the girl tries to resist but can’t help but to finally yield to pleasure in the most degrading way when the player does the right things.
 

yamadakun

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Hi Joe, since you are a developer, I thought I'd make a recommendation for future updates: why is everything in chapter 5 crowed around Saturday, you can do Luna's dreams when she is nude, and call them all in for their reports. The rest of the week is almost irrelevant now. Would it not make sense to add another day (like Sunday) for the reports?
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I discovered that game only a few days ago and I have to admit the art is really good and the overall impression of the game is that it’s of a way higher quality than the average H-game. Here are my few critiques, hopefully you’ll find them constructive.

We are not all fans of Harry Potter, meaning that when we have to go to a specific girl’s room we should have a hint to know if it’s Griffindor, Ravenclaw, etc…

The xray thing is unintuitive, especially since it’s on top of another clickable device (the cabinet). I had to read on this forum to find out it has a cooldown, all by myself I didn’t find a way to use it even once. Maybe using another mechanism, like a pop-up menu when we invite a girl in or making it a passive ability automatically activated when it’s possible would be better.

The IMVOIS thing is a cool idea but catastrophically implemented. It reads as a law with a lot of rules and exceptions. Just say “there is a magical protection of the female students’ virtue, and while it’s enough to protect them against inexperienced male students a trained wizard can find ways around it”. With that you can remove a painful wall of text and you can hand-wave explanations as you see fit: Here the player can’t go further with a girl because his control is too low, there he has to offer a ring forged in voyeurium to render the girl vulnerable to the xray spell without triggering the IMVOIS and so on.


As for the text being too long, I have a different opinion from most of the other posters on that forum so I will have to write something which is also quite long (sorry) to explain my points.

The problem is not that there is too much text, the problem is it’s not about the right stuff. There are so much things about the school politics which we don’t care about, it should be kept minimal. On the other hand it’s a training game, meaning it’s all about turning innocent and proud girls into submissive bitches in heat. It’s not only about seeing boobs, it’s about the girls REALLY not wanting to show their boobs but being manipulated into showing them anyway. We have to feel the struggle of the girls, their shame and awe while they wriggle like flies in the web of a carefully elaborated plan before reluctantly giving up, all the while they are unable to restrain or even comprehend an unwanted arousal. For that the text has to be convincing, meaning it has to be rather long since there is no shortcut around the negotiations and justifications, arguments and counter arguments, pretexts and rationalizations needed to describe the reluctance of the girls and how it’s overcome.

Let me give you an example. For the Hermione’s puzzle she accepts almost right away the bet, she only says she won’t get totally naked. She even offers a bonus in case of big success! It’s so off her character, there is no way a girl as prude as Hermione would accept an obvious sexual bet from the get go from a man she barely knows, let alone overbid.
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And one last thing about the writing, I haven’t played the last chapter but from what I understand there is no penetration scene with any of the main girls yet. I strongly advise against giving them an orgasm during their first time. I know I’m alone on that since every game makes girls scream in pleasure as soon as they have half a penis in them but I can explain why I'm against it.
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There is so much to write about if the girl’s pleasure is not a given but an objective. Besides, it makes the female orgasm way more rewarding for the player if he has to “work” for it, especially if the girl tries to resist but can’t help but to finally yield to pleasure in the most degrading way when the player does the right things.
This man is a genius, give him a beer right now!!
 
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jan.spam

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Hi all, I could not agree more to Darian: I also found it out of character that Hermoine would be up for this mini game challenge so easily, after just having stopped to hate him. That jail-bait Daphne on the other hand would offer her challange, I found totally believable. :cool:

I personally wish the text, the character development for each girl and the story would ultimately match the - so beautifully crafted - artwork. It seems however that Joe is the only native speaker on the Dev team, and that he has more than enough on his plate to put all the pieces together.. so.. @Joe: I think you have got some writer/story elves volunteers right here, if you ever need 'em.
 

JoeBanks

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I discovered that game only a few days ago and I have to admit the art is really good and the overall impression of the game is that it’s of a way higher quality than the average H-game. Here are my few critiques, hopefully you’ll find them constructive.

We are not all fans of Harry Potter, meaning that when we have to go to a specific girl’s room we should have a hint to know if it’s Griffindor, Ravenclaw, etc…

The xray thing is unintuitive, especially since it’s on top of another clickable device (the cabinet). I had to read on this forum to find out it has a cooldown, all by myself I didn’t find a way to use it even once. Maybe using another mechanism, like a pop-up menu when we invite a girl in or making it a passive ability automatically activated when it’s possible would be better.

The IMVOIS thing is a cool idea but catastrophically implemented. It reads as a law with a lot of rules and exceptions. Just say “there is a magical protection of the female students’ virtue, and while it’s enough to protect them against inexperienced male students a trained wizard can find ways around it”. With that you can remove a painful wall of text and you can hand-wave explanations as you see fit: Here the player can’t go further with a girl because his control is too low, there he has to offer a ring forged in voyeurium to render the girl vulnerable to the xray spell without triggering the IMVOIS and so on.


As for the text being too long, I have a different opinion from most of the other posters on that forum so I will have to write something which is also quite long (sorry) to explain my points.

The problem is not that there is too much text, the problem is it’s not about the right stuff. There are so much things about the school politics which we don’t care about, it should be kept minimal. On the other hand it’s a training game, meaning it’s all about turning innocent and proud girls into submissive bitches in heat. It’s not only about seeing boobs, it’s about the girls REALLY not wanting to show their boobs but being manipulated into showing them anyway. We have to feel the struggle of the girls, their shame and awe while they wriggle like flies in the web of a carefully elaborated plan before reluctantly giving up, all the while they are unable to restrain or even comprehend an unwanted arousal. For that the text has to be convincing, meaning it has to be rather long since there is no shortcut around the negotiations and justifications, arguments and counter arguments, pretexts and rationalizations needed to describe the reluctance of the girls and how it’s overcome.

Let me give you an example. For the Hermione’s puzzle she accepts almost right away the bet, she only says she won’t get totally naked. She even offers a bonus in case of big success! It’s so off her character, there is no way a girl as prude as Hermione would accept an obvious sexual bet from the get go from a man she barely knows, let alone overbid.
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And one last thing about the writing, I haven’t played the last chapter but from what I understand there is no penetration scene with any of the main girls yet. I strongly advise against giving them an orgasm during their first time. I know I’m alone on that since every game makes girls scream in pleasure as soon as they have half a penis in them but I can explain why I'm against it.
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There is so much to write about if the girl’s pleasure is not a given but an objective. Besides, it makes the female orgasm way more rewarding for the player if he has to “work” for it, especially if the girl tries to resist but can’t help but to finally yield to pleasure in the most degrading way when the player does the right things.
So the X-ray thing was quickly implemented, I don't know if you followed the change log but someone went absolutely mad with adding all the mechanics into the game in a single release (me). It will be fixed, I made the buttons, I hate it.

Next point on the text, so I don't read russian, it was always russian in the core files. Well I just spent 2 entire days flipping all the text to russian in the core files, this required both alcohol and a lot of patience, I don't think I have words for how stupid this task was, because it's an automated process touching EVERY file that has text. So everything has to be checked and tested and fixed and then there's this *wonderful* caveat. If 2 words in russian shared the same translation, that was fine but when I reversed it, now some of the russian menu options make no sense....

With the logical reasoning behind getting the girl to do things, I have avoided this and just stuck with stats as there were so many complaints about text, I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it ATM and get told how much our text sucks ever further. This entire thread is pretty much getting told the text sucks, and as much as I love getting blamed for it (I don't). I just didn't pursue getting into the text as deep with the minigames. Now that I have flipped the text, we can expect a quickly play vs novel reading version and a flaggable option in the menu for both.

TLDR; All valid points, the harry pottter one? ehh okay, we can point it out but the castle is color coded etc.
 

JoeBanks

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Hi all, I could not agree more to Darian: I also found it out of character that Hermoine would be up for this mini game challenge so easily, after just having stopped to hate him. That jail-bait Daphne on the other hand would offer her challange, I found totally believable. :cool:

I personally wish the text, the character development for each girl and the story would ultimately match the - so beautifully crafted - artwork. It seems however that Joe is the only native speaker on the Dev team, and that he has more than enough on his plate to put all the pieces together.. so.. @Joe: I think you have got some writer/story elves volunteers right here, if you ever need 'em.
If people want to throw dialogue at me in PM's I won't refuse, if someone wants to edit, with the core files now being in English, I would toss them their way too. I think we already have some additional languages in the works (if the translators follow through.)

I am not above having help, I will definitely take up offers for such things if it's free and the quality is good. But, I have zero ties to money in this game, so I wouldn't want anyone thinking that has anything to do with me.
 
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So the X-ray thing was quickly implemented, I don't know if you followed the change log but someone went absolutely mad with adding all the mechanics into the game in a single release (me). It will be fixed, I made the buttons, I hate it.

Next point on the text, so I don't read russian, it was always russian in the core files. Well I just spent 2 entire days flipping all the text to russian in the core files, this required both alcohol and a lot of patience, I don't think I have words for how stupid this task was, because it's an automated process touching EVERY file that has text. So everything has to be checked and tested and fixed and then there's this *wonderful* caveat. If 2 words in russian shared the same translation, that was fine but when I reversed it, now some of the russian menu options make no sense....

With the logical reasoning behind getting the girl to do things, I have avoided this and just stuck with stats as there were so many complaints about text, I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it ATM and get told how much our text sucks ever further. This entire thread is pretty much getting told the text sucks, and as much as I love getting blamed for it (I don't). I just didn't pursue getting into the text as deep with the minigames. Now that I have flipped the text, we can expect a quickly play vs novel reading version and a flaggable option in the menu for both.

TLDR; All valid points, the harry pottter one? ehh okay, we can point it out but the castle is color coded etc.
The text isn't shit. I enjoy having a proper story. It's just the amount of text compared to sexual content. A lot of people are just here to jerk off and don't have the patience to play for that long without some girls getting naked haha. I'm sure it's going to be a great game. (y)
 
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pothb

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The text isn't shit. I enjoy having a proper story. It's just the amount text compared to sexual content. A lot of people are just here to jerk off and don't have the patience to play for that long without some girls getting naked haha. I'm sure it's going to be a great game. (y)
Nah bro, the MC's story is just retarded... (as of 2f, not sure if anything changed) It only gets readable when the girls get involved.
 

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I think the story is pretty damn funny. To each his own
No doubt. I do like the idea of him overhyping himself in his retelling, but when he his memories have him so pathetic in comparison, it's just depressing.
 

JoeBanks

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No doubt. I do like the idea of him overhyping himself in his retelling, but when he his memories have him so pathetic in comparison, it's just depressing.
Yeah, so there's like this paradox, from what the old writer wanted, the translations and how it turned out. I think the story is a mess but w/e

As well, our translator has translated it enough times to pretty much cast us aside and tell us to stop. So I want to shorten it make it more lively and have an option to read a diatribe.
 
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Can someone help me understand how to guess the right color for Daphne. It keeps telling me to check the emotions and when I do I get a couple answers right then lose it. Is there an easy way to understand this game?
 

jan.spam

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Soo basically all of those money and time spent just for 1 sex scene with old lady and bunch of cockblocks?
yes, you are right. It does seem though that with new devs there is a lot more steam. Let's hope!
Undoubtedly, the game has great potential, it just needs to deliver, and from what I read here, the devs know that, too..
 
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