VN Ren'Py Innocent Witches [v0.12.1 A Fix1] [Sad Crab]

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JoeBanks

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So, the update... let me see, I'm on here chatting. Maybe it's soon? I used to communicate on here a lot more, but as the game gets larger, I have less time to do so. Hopefully people see change, hopefully people like change. It's amazing what a dev can do in 3 months.
 
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Wow. I get the frustration especially for those who were patrons but in the grand scheme of things this particular update is hardly delayed at all (certainly compared to other games) and sounds like it will be quite meaty. Can't we just all get along--at least till we check out the latest update and see what it's like? Might be a nice surprise...whatever the past failures, I honestly do get the sense they are trying atm.
 
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JoeBanks said:
This is pretty much the reason why online games are the future, all the herp derp, we can just crack it won't happen if the content is never in your hands.

Stadia etc, the pirating crowd will die a slow death.

If you think I am joking, who hear has CD's and MP3's still? All things will move to the cloud, it's entirely inevitable.
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You're delusional and naive, Joe. First, service > piracy, like Gaben said. He's a wise man, you should listen to him. Second, Stadia is a stillborn baby and a laughing stock, basically. Third, security: smart people are tend to avoid to leave any personal data elsewhere and clouds are not secure by definition. Fourth, censorship: look at "Gone With The Wind" and alike. At this rate, you'll have to have a fucking physical copy if you'll want to watch original version of whatever favorite movie/any media product.
 
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Ghost25567

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Excuse my little person for intervening, but I feel people becoming very aggressive, and I don't understand.

I'm not a Patreon, so I don't pay for the authors' work. When an update arrives, I am happy to discover the content of the game (story, X scene, etc). When I see that the update is late, I am sad because I want to see the rest of the game.

Now, those who pay every month, it is normal that they are furious at not getting what is promised.
You say you don't owe them anything. So why not work for free? Without Patreon? Because if you really don't need them, then you don't need their money either. They pay you because they want to see you continue, but if you make impossible promises, or if you can't keep reasonable promises, then it's normal for them to ask you to keep your promises.

On the other hand, I don't understand the Patreons who continue to pay despite their dissatisfaction. When I buy a game on Steam and I don't like it, I stop the fees. I can't claim a refund from Steam, but at least I stop spending my money. And if the game is deleted, or abandoned, why would I be angry? I no longer pay the subscription.

I do not know how Patreon works, but in my opinion, when a Patreon stops paying, a notice must be written, explaining why he stops paying. And make this notice public, so that the next "donors" can know why there are fewer donations. To give weight to the oldest Patreons, it would be good to add in addition, the duration that the person was a donor.

I apologize for my bad english (google)
 
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Daggander

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Well, I for one really enjoy the game. The art is fantastic and allthough the game design is questionable and the dialogue just goes on and on, without a really tightly written thread, there is something about the handling of the theme that really appeals to me. I understand that people are complaining and that a lot of patreons would be upset. I was a patron for a couple of months and when litterally nothing happened I dropped it. I sadly cannot afford to support EVERYONE whos work I appreciate, especially when promises aren't being kept. I'm surprised others aren't dropping them but that is their choice. I hope the devs are still motivated at least, because I think this game could become something pretty cool eventually.
 
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Overmann said:
Well, I for one really enjoy the game. The art is fantastic and allthough the game design is questionable and the dialogue just goes on and on, without a really tightly written thread, there is something about the handling of the theme that really appeals to me. I understand that people are complaining and that a lot of patreons would be upset. I was a patron for a couple of months and when litterally nothing happened I dropped it. I sadly cannot afford to support EVERYONE whos work I appreciate, especially when promises aren't being kept. I'm surprised others aren't dropping them but that is their choice. I hope the devs are still motivated at least, because I think this game could become something pretty cool eventually.
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If I want to speak honestly, I am enjoying the game. Some things annoyed me, like the grinding, but it is still in acceptable level; I was not patient enough. Seeing the fact that I am not able to bring Hermione to bedroom yet makes me curious on how to do that.

Speaking of that last thing of Hermione and bedroom, any idea?
 
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raihuhoha

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Here is how I see it. Truthfully, you can't make everyone happy. There is always going to be one person that acts like someone pissed in their Cheerios or whatever breakfast cereal they eat. So it's going to come down the kind of person you are in this predicament.

A. If you are a Patreon and if you're happy with how everything is going, then hooray for you. Proceed.

B. If you are a Patreon and if you're unhappy with how everything is going, then unsub and take your money elsewhere. If you want to complain how they robbed you, then talk to Patreon about it. What you need to understand is that you have control over your monthly membership subscription; they do not. If they aren't meeting your demands, then drop them.

C. If you are not a Patreon and if you are happy with how everything is going because you're waiting for the free link, then okay, kudos to you for being patient.

D. If you are not a Patreon and if you are unhappy with how everything is going and are just waiting for the free link, then I'm sorry that you feel like you're owed something. This isn't the line for the participation trophy.

It'll get done when it gets done.
 
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JoeBanks

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Changelog 0.6A
1. Complete edit of all chapters up to and through chapter 4, text and flow
2. Added hinting arrow system that guides you through clicking, only works up to chapter 2
3. Added ambient sounds, that happen when you open the window or doors, or change location
4. Added continuance of drinking game
5. Added test functionality of minigame with Hermione (not yet complete)
6. Added new Susan minigame, with rewards
7. Updated objectives as things changed in game
8. Added small rewards for choices in chapter 2
9. Added Hagrid scene with capturing him stealing clothes (cut scene)
10.Added more main plot to Act2 Chapter 1
11.Added additional scenes, that were missing art
12.Added spying on girls prior to dating scene in chapter 4
13.Added dating scene in chapter 4
14.Swimsuit quest is completely redone and simpler; easy to follow, ripped out a lot of redundant text from chapter 4
15.You now pick a Waifu at the beginning of that chapter and only solve/read papers of one girl
16.Added sound functions to support random sounds (not in use atm)
17.Added function to enable fining Markus for bad actions
18.Added function to track variables throughout days and weeks
19.Built scripts to swap out translations as we will be redoing the engine completely in the future, so we had to do this to support it
20. A new scene

We have cut the text down by a little over 70k words:

The game contains 25,638 dialogue blocks, containing 276,552 words and
1,460,185 characters, for an average of 10.8 words and 57 characters per
block.

Now:

The game contains 21,364 dialogue blocks, containing 204,490 words and
1,077,202 characters, for an average of 9.6 words and 50 characters per block.
 
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Vanko1984

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I don't know a thing about game development. I ask genuine question to understand a bit of "inner kitchen": what stoped you from it being "six new scenes"? If you have an engine, figured out systems in it for plotscenes, have an artist, a coder and a writer, what stops you from putting in multiple scenes? Aint it supposed to be a well known procedure by now?
 
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BlackAceOfSpades

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JoeBanks said:
Changelog 0.6A
1. Complete edit of all chapters up to and through chapter 4, text and flow
2. Added hinting arrow system that guides you through clicking, only works up to chapter 2
3. Added ambient sounds, that happen when you open the window or doors, or change location
4. Added continuance of drinking game
5. Added test functionality of minigame with Hermione (not yet complete)
6. Added new Susan minigame, with rewards
7. Updated objectives as things changed in game
8. Added small rewards for choices in chapter 2
9. Added Hagrid scene with capturing him stealing clothes (cut scene)
10.Added more main plot to Act2 Chapter 1
11.Added additional scenes, that were missing art
12.Added spying on girls prior to dating scene in chapter 4
13.Added dating scene in chapter 4
14.Swimsuit quest is completely redone and simpler; easy to follow, ripped out a lot of redundant text from chapter 4
15.You now pick a Waifu at the beginning of that chapter and only solve/read papers of one girl
16.Added sound functions to support random sounds (not in use atm)
17.Added function to enable fining Markus for bad actions
18.Added function to track variables throughout days and weeks
19.Built scripts to swap out translations as we will be redoing the engine completely in the future, so we had to do this to support it
20. A new scene

We have cut the text down by nearly 70k words:

The game contains 25,638 dialogue blocks, containing 276,552 words and
1,460,185 characters, for an average of 10.8 words and 57 characters per
block.

Now:

The game contains 21,542 dialogue blocks, containing 206,694 words and
1,088,419 characters, for an average of 9.6 words and 51 characters per block.
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Hi joe thanks for showing this and if possible could you give us a relative answer on if the update this week or later in the month you of course dont have to answer if you dont want again thanks for showing us this
 
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