Detective Cancer

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You sorta can but getting a save for it means you miss out on a good portion of the content, if not most of it.
A lot of scenes aren't repeatable, there's no gallery, and even then the saves go to your registry and that's not something most people want to touch without knowing exactly what they're doing. It's not a hard game though, you can very easily follow the guide on the Dev's site and use the cheats to breeze through.
 

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1/ Amateurs need feedback too. For the several shitty ones that just say "lol ur game broken" there's others like me who report things properly. The game's clearly not being made by English-speakers so that's a problem to begin with. Amateurs don't get a pass because they're starting out, this game is 3 years old. You don't get a participation trophy because you did your best but came up short. That's not how this works, you set out to start a business you don't get out of bankruptcy after mismanaging assets because you "did your best" with your spending. Stop it.

It's i try to say dude no one here try to understand or even give him a thank you for what he do it's not right pal.

You can say wathever you want but it's not cool the dev try or i think he try to give us a good game but some reason he's not the best game but i deal with it.

2/ Yeah who's to know, do you know? I sure don't. Speculation happens when a game mysteriously goes from 80% done to 100% and nothing's said about it. It's a natural reaction to the unknown. Unless you have hard facts and direct quotes you have no ground to stand on to tell people to stop speculating because that's what people do.

You right i don't know but i don't care the dev don't owe me anything.

People here are like they pay a game no they don't pay anything they support a game nothing less if you thing the dev owe you something you're wrong mate.

The dev do what he likes he does what he want US we can just support him or give him some feedback nothing more not criticism a game just because it fells rushed or because it still buggy it's stupid.

Now if the dev say screw this game i don't do anything about it what you can do about it nothing mate just deal with it that what i say there's feedback and bad criticism saying the game is buggy it's a bad criticism saying the game need be better in his ending's characters it's a good feedback that's the point.

3/ The argument is childish. Geseeki is easily the WORST, LAZIEST dev on Patreon but I'm not comparing his work to any other game. When I talk about it, unless it's explicitly necessary I will only speak about his game on his own merits. Simply put, someone else doing something shitty doesn't make it okay for you to do it, otherwise the fucking planet would be chaos.

This game is 3 years old, it took that long to make.. this. By your logic, your standard, if I were to compare it to other games then I've seen games made by start-ups begin and finish within that timeframe, being an amateur isn't an excuse anymore especially when there's so many resources readily available to the public for free that you could use to learn to code. There's free online courses, there's a trillion Youtube videos and support forums, this one being one of them, etc. You're defending the game even though no one's attacked it.

1) My argument is childish but you're complain too that's my point the only thing people say it's the game still buggy the english it's not good.

Speaking about the narrative dude this game it's not depraved awakening who's care about the narrative this game don't even want that a good story just a small story to explain what you do.

For me this game it's the same as Panthea just the same not a good story but some good animations that's want people in a small game like this.

2) I'm not defending the game i'm just want to say that people complain about the buggy issue or some shit i don't read all but they praise for some games they'll not finished that's what i say.

P.S. Still waiting on that quote. Find a post that says "i hate these people i hope they lose all their money they don't deserve it" etc. You're not getting away from making such a bold allegation without backing it up.

That's more or less what these devs are: very very very lucky, in my opinion they don't deserve one tenth of what they made.

There or maybe i don't understand the sense but for me that's what he means.

I'm not getting away dude i'm good here. =)
 

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1/ Yeah people are pretty supportive when things go well and criticism happens when they don't. The devs are adults, they can take it and improve from it. That's what feedback is, that's what criticism is, you're not always gonna get people who blindly accept everything you do. That's how it works, that's how it should be, otherwise like you say we'd have a ton more lazy developers who don't do anything. Because people like you will defend anything. "Yeah they tried" sure they did. Everyone tries. I'm sure someone somewhere tried to start a business and I'm sure they tried their best to make it a good business and be useful, but they didn't do well and it went bankrupt. The real world doesn't care for "try." If you do something bad you'll be told about it, then you can either be an adult and fix it, or give up and "try" something else.

2/ Okay, first of all give me a list of usernames you absolutely know are here just to pirate the game and haven't supported the dev. Go ahead, I'll wait. You keep making these bold claims and accusations but I don't see you supporting any of them. I'm gonna start to think you're making blanket statements because you don't have a real argument on your hands.
Saying a game is buggy is legitimate criticism, if sprites are clipping, if scenes aren't working, if you get stuck in a quest because something went wrong and some flag didn't trigger, the game is buggy. That is objective criticism, saying endings weren't established, saying the English is bad, etc. is also proper criticism. I don't know what you're on about, you're not making sense or actively acting like this to detract from real points.

3/ All you do is compare this game to other games, I did it to set an example, here let me do it again. Panthea is as much of a mess as this game, in fact it's worse and hell, earlier you were talking about bad lazy devs who spend years without making progress but now you're saying Panthea is a good game? Hypocrisy much? That game isn't nearly finished. I'd rather have an unfinished game that keeps making steady progress and adding content like Dandy Boy Adventures than some game that is "finished" but most updates either remove content or make it unplayable. Every new content addition in Insexity actively removes scenes and options you used to have. I've never seen a porn game do that for the sake of a muddy narrative. Also, take note, if people keep repeating a criticism it means it's a valid one. The game is buggy? Yeah, it is. The game's badly translated? Yeah, it is. Those are objective feedback points the devs could consider to improve the game. Have they done that? No, they haven't. What does that mean? That people will continue to complain until it's fixed. That's how the world works.

Okay I'm gonna try this again and I'm requesting two things of you now:
1: You said people only come to this website to complain and pirate the game. Give me a list of people you know for sure are just here to pirate the game.
2: You said people have stated that the devs don't deserve any money and those people give money to games that haven't been finished in years. Give me a quote or two of people saying and doing this.

You can't just make blanket accusations like that and expect reasonable people to take them for granted. I'm not having it. Give me names or stop making statements like that.
 
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Okay I'm gonna try this again and I'm requesting two things of you now:
1: You said people only come to this website to complain and pirate the game. Give me a list of people you know for sure are just here to pirate the game.
2: You said people have stated that the devs don't deserve any money and those people give money to games that haven't been finished in years. Give me a quote or two of people saying and doing this.

You requesting nothing of me mate. :mad:

Thee only thing i see about you it's you want the last word don't even try what i try say.

You want a quote i give you a quote but no it's not what you want now you want some names WTF.

Now i'm out but if you think that all people here support some devs you're strange man dude.

You can't just make blanket accusations like that and expect reasonable people to take them for granted. I'm not having it. Give me names or stop making statements like that.

I don't make any blanket accusations dude. The only acccusation i just do i give you the quote about that but you don't love it so you try to search anything else to tput the blame on me.

I just give my tought about some guys complain about the game.
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If you're not going to meet reasonable demands for evidence of your claims then you do not have an argument and your opinion is invalid. You do not get to call people pirates or weird just because you feel like it.

You can criticise a game or its dev within reason but insulting people just because they dislike something you like is incredibly childish. If you say "people do this" or "people say that" you need to provide evidence otherwise it's just lying to make a statement.

You don't even know what a blanket accusation is, in that very sentence you made another one. You had absolutely nothing to support your arguments this entire time while I consistently tried to get you to provide some sort of basis for the things you said, you provided nothing.

I'm just giving my thoughts about you complaining without any actual reason or basis, what's wrong with that? I'm "trying" isn't that good enough?
 
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I feel sorry for all the people who gave them such sums.
I don't. The creator clearly outlines how much money they need to keep working on the game at full capacity, yet these mongoloids keep shoving money down their throat. No one's tricking or deceiving them, they're just throwing money around out of the misguided idea that money automatically fixes things.
 

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I don't. The creator clearly outlines how much money they need to keep working on the game at full capacity, yet these mongoloids keep shoving money down their throat. No one's tricking or deceiving them, they're just throwing money around out of the misguided idea that money automatically fixes things.
That's a common Patreon problem, as well as ghost Patrons who forget that they were even supporting something and don't notice a few bucks being taken out of their bank accounts monthly. It's one reason why delayed or super slow games continue to thrive for so long unattended.
 

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I can't imagine this was the full story they wanted to tell.
Now it got pretty obtuse and broken so it's prob a good idea to end it here and take what you learned into a fresh project.
For the good parts its still the best game of its type, which led to good monetary success so many people wondered about. It just got off the rails midway trough development.
Hope they keep the mc, corruption themes and artstyle for the next game. Make it less gate/specific requirement to progress heavy.
 

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1/ Yeah people are pretty supportive when things go well and criticism happens when they don't. The devs are adults, they can take it and improve from it. That's what feedback is, that's what criticism is, you're not always gonna get people who blindly accept everything you do. That's how it works, that's how it should be, otherwise like you say we'd have a ton more lazy developers who don't do anything. Because people like you will defend anything. "Yeah they tried" sure they did. Everyone tries. I'm sure someone somewhere tried to start a business and I'm sure they tried their best to make it a good business and be useful, but they didn't do well and it went bankrupt. The real world doesn't care for "try." If you do something bad you'll be told about it, then you can either be an adult and fix it, or give up and "try" something else.

2/ Okay, first of all give me a list of usernames you absolutely know are here just to pirate the game and haven't supported the dev. Go ahead, I'll wait. You keep making these bold claims and accusations but I don't see you supporting any of them. I'm gonna start to think you're making blanket statements because you don't have a real argument on your hands.
Saying a game is buggy is legitimate criticism, if sprites are clipping, if scenes aren't working, if you get stuck in a quest because something went wrong and some flag didn't trigger, the game is buggy. That is objective criticism, saying endings weren't established, saying the English is bad, etc. is also proper criticism. I don't know what you're on about, you're not making sense or actively acting like this to detract from real points.

3/ All you do is compare this game to other games, I did it to set an example, here let me do it again. Panthea is as much of a mess as this game, in fact it's worse and hell, earlier you were talking about bad lazy devs who spend years without making progress but now you're saying Panthea is a good game? Hypocrisy much? That game isn't nearly finished. I'd rather have an unfinished game that keeps making steady progress and adding content like Dandy Boy Adventures than some game that is "finished" but most updates either remove content or make it unplayable. Every new content addition in Insexity actively removes scenes and options you used to have. I've never seen a porn game do that for the sake of a muddy narrative. Also, take note, if people keep repeating a criticism it means it's a valid one. The game is buggy? Yeah, it is. The game's badly translated? Yeah, it is. Those are objective feedback points the devs could consider to improve the game. Have they done that? No, they haven't. What does that mean? That people will continue to complain until it's fixed. That's how the world works.

Okay I'm gonna try this again and I'm requesting two things of you now:
1: You said people only come to this website to complain and pirate the game. Give me a list of people you know for sure are just here to pirate the game.
2: You said people have stated that the devs don't deserve any money and those people give money to games that haven't been finished in years. Give me a quote or two of people saying and doing this.

You can't just make blanket accusations like that and expect reasonable people to take them for granted. I'm not having it. Give me names or stop making statements like that.
I'm unsure who this post was directed at maybe Panx. I'm going to step up and respond to it though. You cut your monologue into 3 parts and I'll respond to all 3.

Part 1: Some games do have "fanboys". Diehard fans will defend everything the developer does good or bad. It's like any fandom. You typically won't see "fanboys" for smaller / less famous games. This game is sizable/popular enough to have fanboys. Where are these "Lazy developers that don't do anything." you speak of? To create a game you need writing and not just normal writing. It has to be done in a "choose your own adventure" sort of style unless you are going for a kinetic novel type game. You are going to also need the ability to code such a thing. If you put a colon in the wrong place or forget to capitalize a word, or make a typo it can all come crashing down. Then, of course, you need some sort of visual medium be it daz renders, or 2d drawing or something else... And there can always be more. If you want voices in your game you may need to hire a voice actress, and sometimes you are going to want to add music or sound effects. You may not speak English well and need someone to help translate. Creating even a small game is a sizable project. If you work in a team then you need to figure out logistics and time tables and have everyone work together. If your writing is done in a week, but the renderer takes a month then your supply chain is only as fast as the weakest link in that chain. If you are making the game yourself without a team then you don't have to "wait for others" or "feel bad about making others wait". Instead, it's all on your shoulders. Most developers are solo developers doing it all themself. Also, most developers get paid either nothing or next to nothing. On top of all that Developers are human beings. We have family's, jobs, school, health problems, personal issues, and so on. Most developers would make significantly more money working minimum wage. The vast majority (almost all) of developers make less than $1,000 a month (most make far less, like 0-100) which I'm sorry to say is nowhere near enough to live on. So please tell me again how game developers are lazy. And don't even get me started on how corrupt patreon stifles creativity imposing arbitary rules and regulations on developers to follow both off and on site because the cancel culture cry bullies got to them. As for your point about starting a business then it failing or succeeding. Yes, most small businesses fail. Just need one to succeed though. It's better to try and fail something than not try at all.

part 2: This site is primarily a pirate site. Probably 99% of people here pay $0 to any developers. Don't get me wrong, some support games, but most don't and by a large margin. It's obvious... You want a list? Um... look up every name without a "donor" tag, and without those little "patreon badges" most users.

part 3: Having a buggy / poorly translated game will always draw criticism if enough people see it. This is good, but also take note that there is a possibility a developer reads 0 of these comments. There are 168+ pages of comments for this game. I doubt the developer or anyone else for that matter has read them all especially when people like you, and me write long posts like these. Sometimes a developer doesn't have the ability to fix a problem and they are aware of it. As an example, the game Fashion business lags like crazy. The developer (decentmonkey) is aware of this. Not much they are able to do to fix this due to the insane amount of code they put into that game. Often times feedback is not helpful. Simply saying "These renders suck" or "The writing is bad" or "I don't like this character." is not the most helpful. Is it buggy? describe the bug and maybe the error code or if it crashed and exactly what you did to get the bug. Is the writing bad? Well, explain why it's bad. Are characters acting in an unrealstic way? is it more of a spelling and grammar issue? Did they use too many big words? Is the plot too hard to believe? ect... Are the renders bad? Which renders or all of the renders? is there maybe some grain on them? Well that needs a better video card, or lots of extra time in photoshop... Is it because the lighting changes mid-scene in a strange way? Is it because the character poses in a strange way? Detailed feedback is wonderful. General open-ended feedback is relatively useless.
 
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I'm unsure who this post was directed at maybe Panx. I'm going to step up and respond to it though. You cut your monologue into 3 parts and I'll respond to all 3.

Part 1: Some games do have "fanboys". Diehard fans will defend everything the developer does good or bad. It's like any fandom. You typically won't see "fanboys" for smaller / less famous games. This game is sizable/popular enough to have fanboys. Where are these "Lazy developers that don't do anything." you speak of? To create a game you need writing and not just normal writing. It has to be done in a "choose your own adventure" sort of style unless you are going for a kinetic novel type game. You are going to also need the ability to code such a thing. If you put a colon in the wrong place or forget to capitalize a word, or make a typo it can all come crashing down. Then, of course, you need some sort of visual medium be it daz renders, or 2d drawing or something else... And there can always be more. If you want voices in your game you may need to hire a voice actress, and sometimes you are going to want to add music or sound effects. You may not speak English well and need someone to help translate. Creating even a small game is a sizable project. If you work in a team then you need to figure out logistics and time tables and have everyone work together. If your writing is done in a week, but the renderer takes a month then your supply chain is only as fast as the weakest link in that chain. If you are making the game yourself without a team then you don't have to "wait for others" or "feel bad about making others wait". Instead, it's all on your shoulders. Most developers are solo developers doing it all themself. Also, most developers get paid either nothing or next to nothing. On top of all that Developers are human beings. We have family's, jobs, school, health problems, personal issues, and so on. Most developers would make significantly more money working minimum wage. The vast majority (almost all) of developers make less than $1,000 a month (most make far less, like 0-100) which I'm sorry to say is nowhere near enough to live on. So please tell me again how game developers are lazy. And don't even get me started on how corrupt patreon stifles creativity imposing arbitary rules and regulations on developers to follow both off and on site because the cancel culture cry bullies got to them. As for your point about starting a business then it failing or succeeding. Yes, most small businesses fail. Just need one to succeed though. It's better to try and fail something than not try at all.

part 2: This site is primarily a pirate site. Probably 99% of people here pay $0 to any developers. Don't get me wrong, some support games, but most don't and by a large margin. It's obvious... You want a list? Um... look up every name without a "donor" tag, and without those little "patreon badges" most users.

part 3: Having a buggy / poorly translated game will always draw criticism if enough people see it. This is good, but also take note that there is a possibility a developer reads 0 of these comments. There are 168+ pages of comments for this game. I doubt the developer or anyone else for that matter has read them all especially when people like you, and me write long posts like these. Sometimes a developer doesn't have the ability to fix a problem and they are aware of it. As an example, the game Fashion business lags like crazy. The developer (decentmonkey) is aware of this. Not much they are able to do to fix this due to the insane amount of code they put into that game. Often times feedback is not helpful. Simply saying "These renders suck" or "The writing is bad" or "I don't like this character." is not the most helpful. Is it buggy? describe the bug and maybe the error code or if it crashed and exactly what you did to get the bug. Is the writing bad? Well, explain why it's bad. Are characters acting in an unrealstic way? is it more of a spelling and grammar issue? Did they use too many big words? Is the plot too hard to believe? ect... Are the renders bad? Which renders or all of the renders? is there maybe some grain on them? Well that needs a better video card, or lots of extra time in photoshop... Is it because the lighting changes mid-scene in a strange way? Is it because the character poses in a strange way? Detailed feedback is wonderful. General open-ended feedback is relatively useless.
I was replying to Panx but since they were double quoting my quotes went missing, the site tries to delete quotes within quotes, I'll go back and edit those posts so they show up.

1/ I can name a few "lazy" people off the top of my head. Geseeki, the Legend of Krystal team, Summertime Saga, and a few other lazy developers. They're people who've gone out of their way to delay updates, fundamentally change mechanics at random, make excuses whilst taking vacations and then come back to complain. Geseeki especially keeps actually removing content from his updates, and someone on the thread on A Town Uncovered had to make a provisional patch for his game because it kept crashing. That's the one I have the most on but I can continue if you'd like. I'm well aware that Patreon is a shithole as a whole but these developers I mentioned make well over $1000 a month, almost $5k in the case of Geseeki I think, and again I was avoiding making comparative arguments because those don't help anything. You're making a lot of blanket statements too. Your personal life is irrelevant, it's not information we know, and because of that the criticism and feedback is based solely on what we do know. If a developer is not transparent or honest there's no reason to give them any benefit of the doubt, you're making money monthly on Patreon you should keep people updated so they can make informed decisions.

2/ Not donating to the site doesn't mean anything it's not related to developers so I'm dismissing that entirely, it says nothing of pirates. The Patreon link option is relatively new also, I didn't even learn about it until a few days ago when I saw it under someone's name and I'm not using it because I don't like linking my accounts online. I avoid it whenever I can because I had a big problem with NexusMods a few years back and my email got leaked. This argument is invalid and only furthers my own, that is, that you can't know for sure any of this, only that a few people actually linked their patreon to show support. Nothing else, you certainly can't quantify people who pirate or don't, not explicitly. Don't give me that "99% of people are pirates" because it's objectively incorrect and hearkening back to what that other person was going off on. I'm getting tired of people saying the same things over and over.

3/ Regardless of whether or not a developer comes around here people will comment on it here, and you can't stop that, it's a public forum with a nice organised thread for a game with links relating to it. If a developer is aware of an issue but can't fix it they can make a statement saying that on their Patreon or related sites, if they're having trouble or have personal issues they can do that too and be transparent and professional, and if they don't come around here then it doesn't matter anyway does it? This wasn't the point I was trying to make though. It was that people come around here and talk about the game, constructively or not, and defending it blindly doesn't get much done either which is what that person was doing without really making any points. Several developers do come around here to talk to supporters though, off the top of my head the devs of Third Crisis which I support BuT I dOn'T HaVe A BadGe check their own thread and post changelogs and such every now and then when it's relevant. They also take feedback here sometimes.

Ah, the usual shitshows whenever a game is completed. Pages and pages of rants and flinging shit over a goddamn scuffed porn game. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time during the holidays?
Ah, the usual shitshows whenever someone posts about a game being rushed. Pages and pages of little quips and dismissive useless comments over people posting about it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time during the holidays?
 
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Played this like a year back and quit cause I was kinda confused. Is this game worth playing in completed state?
 

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Huh...back in the day I was a patreon of these guys. Interesting to see this pop up 'complete' now.
 

Detective Cancer

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Played this like a year back and quit cause I was kinda confused. Is this game worth playing in completed state?
Okay what is going here how buggy is the game ?
I'd say it's about the same as before, nothing major's changed on the previous content, it's just a bit of a hack-job ending on top of that with a sprinkling of new scenes. Worth a try if nothing else. Still confusing as heck.
 

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I wanted to know, in these 2 years, the game won a Portuguese version? he gets a version for all language except the portuguese
 
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