voiceless kouka

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This update was really interessing the animations were good and the plot somehow got even worse in all the right departments.

But now i wonder if adam will altf4 himself dude got mindflayed i hope not he not that bad he for sure need some loses but i think he already got too much.

And i think Jade needs to get some physical buff because Dwayne is having some heavy juice.

Now the orgy scene is cool and all but for me atleast would like a more personalized version because a only like mia ashe and andy/angie all the others rivera for me are kinda mid.
 

HentaiKami

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I didn't get the orgy scene, just Jade fucking Evelyn off screen with Adam accepting the fact.So i wonder where my path differs from apparently a lot of people.
You need to accept everyone to get that scene, including Andy or Angie as she prefers to go by the end of this update.
 
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HentaiKami

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After playing this update i prefered restart a new playthrough and rejecting all the Rivera family, Bella and Maria excluded.
I already wasnt very fond of some of the girls like Evelyn but after that orgy scene ....,Adam isnt a saint for sure but damn he didnt deserve something like that, he is somehow treated like if he was some kind of monster when if anything Susan was way worst, and yet didnt have to suffer any negative consequences for it.

Dont get me wrong, Jade had reason to get some revenge on her brother,and he deserved something for sure, what bother me the most is that his own family so readily turn their back on him and take pleasure into breaking and humiliating him, especialy Evelyn who still pretend to love the guy.

If anything the orgy scene and breaking the husband would have felt more right against Anna husband if they had other childs , but even her, the way she turn her back on her own son who clearly isnt a bad person like his father just for some cock is realy disapointing too, breaking the marriage arrangement was right of course, but it would have been better to make Eric more like his father from the start to make it more understandable for Anna to treat him that way and doing what she did so easily.

Also it felt weird and forced to see Andy turning into a girl if we avoid him since it's because of Jade and Sam who are forcing Andy into that path that it happen in the first place.
Without their intervention, there isnt anything to trigger that change into Andy and for him to be more than some effeminate panty tief.
I mean, Adam is pretty terrible father if we're honest. He doesn't really care for his kids, which can be seen when he actually thinks about not cancelling the engagement for Ashley when they find her fiancee fucking another girl, nor is he supportive towards Angie's real self. If anything he only cares about his own reputation and image if people found out that his kid is "a faggot" as he put it himself. Nor does he really pay attention to his wife, whom he neglects in favour of his own status in the society. Rest of the family basically had to guilt trip him into considering Angie's feelings over his own views.

Also if you were on Andy's, or Angie's, path, you learn that she never felt really comfortable as a boy and wanted to be a girl, so in a sense on that path you are there to just give the final push, but it's a step she would have taken regardless if you gave the push or not.

Now about Anna going against his son, in my view it's mostly because she is seeing her son developing the same bs macho-man, i can cheat on my wife freely, attitude. And that's pretty huge red flag for her, since she's been hurt by that attitude for a long time. It's not so strange for person who has been hurt like that to start on hating/disliking others who are on that path, even if they were family members.
 

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I mean, Adam is pretty terrible father if we're honest. He doesn't really care for his kids, which can be seen when he actually thinks about not cancelling the engagement for Ashley when they find her fiancee fucking another girl, nor is he supportive towards Angie's real self. If anything he only cares about his own reputation and image if people found out that his kid is "a faggot" as he put it himself. Nor does he really pay attention to his wife, whom he neglects in favour of his own status in the society. Rest of the family basically had to guilt trip him into considering Angie's feelings over his own views.

Also if you were on Andy's, or Angie's, path, you learn that she never felt really comfortable as a boy and wanted to be a girl, so in a sense on that path you are there to just give the final push, but it's a step she would have taken regardless if you gave the push or not.

Now about Anna going against his son, in my view it's mostly because she is seeing her son developing the same bs macho-man, i can cheat on my wife freely, attitude. And that's pretty huge red flag for her, since she's been hurt by that attitude for a long time. It's not so strange for person who has been hurt like that to start on hating/disliking others who are on that path, even if they were family members.
For Andy yes i know, but without Jade and Sam to push him toward that path, it would probably happened at some point sure, but it shouldnt have happened so quickly, since the trigger wasnt there.

For Adam, i cant fully agree though, sure he isnt father of the year, he made some mistake and poor choices but he regret them quickly and realise his mistakes, and even if he started to neglect Evelyn as of late, Evelyn herself explain when we first meet her that she consider him as a good father and loving husband and also that their sexual life isnt bad, the main problem is just that she consider him to vanilla and that he wont gave her another child.

But when you do something like that to someone you pretend to love, just for that reason, i just find it disgusting, and i could never care of put some level of trust toward a character like that .
I mean even if she was just pretending now and wasnt fully happy, which is understandable , out of respect for him she could have just left and find someone else to give her what she wanted without doing something so awful.
For Ashley and Andy, even if it completly fucked up, they already had more reason since their relationship with Adam wasnt good at all, it's shown that Ashley wasnt giving a shit about Adam even when she learn that her mother cheat on him, and with how Adam treated Andy during the party, it's understandable that he took it badly and wouldnt have give a shit on the moment.

For Anna with Eric, he wasnt realy like that though, it was all Jade doing with her manipulation to break the arrangement, and the drug did the rest, and Jade explained it to her.
Even if we consider that she realy took at heart what Eric said when he was under the drug effect with Madison, she agreed to all that before, and in favor of someone she barely knew.
 
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voiceless kouka

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For Andy yes i know, but without Jade and Sam to push him toward that path, it would probably happened at some point sure, but it shouldnt have happened so quickly, since the trigger wasnt there.

For Adam, i cant fully agree though, sure he isnt father of the year, he made some mistake and poor choices but he regret them quickly and realise his mistakes, and even if he started to neglect Evelyn as of late, Evelyn herself explain when we first meet her that she consider him as a good father and loving husband and also that their sexual life isnt bad, the main problem is just that she consider him to vanilla and that he wont gave her another child.

But when you do something like that to someone you pretend to love, just for that reason, i just find it disgusting, and i could never care of put some level of trust toward a character like that .
I mean even if she was just pretending now and wasnt fully happy, which is understandable , out of respect for him she could have just left and find someone else to give her what she wanted without doing something so awful.
For Ashley and Andy, even if it completly fucked up, they already had more reason since their relationship with Adam wasnt good at all, it's shown that Ashley wasnt giving a shit about Adam even when she learn that her mother cheat on him, and with how Adam treated Andy during the party, it's understandable that he took it badly and wouldnt have give a shit on the moment.

For Anna with Eric, he wasnt realy like that though, it was all Jade doing with her manipulation to break the arrangement, and the drug did the rest, and Jade explained it to her.
Even if we consider that she realy took at heart what Eric said when he was under the drug effect with Madison, she agreed to all that before, and in favor of someone she barely knew.
For me Evellyn is boring she don't know what she wants until she see the D then her brain melt i also think the Adam situation was too much but i kinda don't care about him, NOW susan though hoho i hate that old hag soo much and how you can't punish her and now she got drag in the sexual acts of jade of course you have the choice but how i say earlier i think it would be better if the orgy has more variantions but it probably too much time for only some folks tha don't like
 

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in birthday the is an option to step in and chill adam but both option are the same

is it bug?
No, I believe it's intended to be like that. Whether if you decide to get involved or think that it's not your problem, Ashley will always step up, defend Angie and scold Adam. So, in the end, it's more of a cosmetic type of choice, since she's the one doing what Jade was (or wasn't) about to do.
 
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I'm very confused by the birthday party. I'm on everyone's routes afaik, but I just get adam hearing stuff through the door (but us not seeing anything) then disappeating back downstairs then seemingly being happy with Jade when she comes downstairs. And Susan and Mia disappear in the meantime.

Edit: Looks like I must somehow not be on someone's path. Adam's reaction still doesn't make any sense to me, but I guess it is what it is.

Edit 2: Started over at the beginning and speedran everything. Clearly must have missed a flag or two or made a wrong choice the first time as there were a bunch of scenes in this update I didn't see in my initial run. :)
 
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he looked broken and in denial
maybe he will like it and become cuck or something
idk what's KN's plans for Adam are but my headcanon is that he either A) finds a shotgun to suck start or B) he finds literally any firearm and goes Postal. :KEK: But, I'm not entirely against him embracing being a cuck I just don't want to see him getting naked or anything personally. I'm totally fine with him enjoying himself off screen while listening to or watching the MC do her thang with the family and other LI, just don't care to see him in any sexual context.
 

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Adam probaly ends up as a cuck, or further humiliated.

But I must say, if it ends with him doing the Cobain with his shotgun. Damn, that would be some new (heavy) territory.
 
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Man... I wanna see where that Family Orgy starts... that shit is too hot.... and Adam immediately broke after seeing and realizing what's happening... I wish there's an option to keep it hidden from him, still kinda sad seeing him just broke like that
 
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jadepaladin

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Man... I wanna see where that Family Orgy starts... that shit is too hot.... and Adam immediately broke after seeing realizing what's happening... I wish there's an option where to keep it hidden from him, still kinda sad seeing him just broke like that
Jade might have let him watch if he didn't call his daughter a faggot like 10 minutes earlier.
 
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