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Kind Nightmares

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Hmm, let me preface this by saying I loved and still love this game, and I supported this project financially. But why not include sex scenes? Isn't that a little strange for an adult video game?:unsure:
To be real for a sec, I’ve already answered this before, but I don’t mind repeating it.
ADULT doesn’t mean brain-dead porn or just porn to me. For me, it’s a genre that actually speaks to grown-ass people, one that can dive into heavy shit — violence, drama, psychology, all that. Yeah, I could’ve tossed in some sex scenes in the last chapter, I legit thought about it after seeing all the complaints, but honestly? It would’ve felt cheap as hell.

And I’m not out here trying to make some fancy piece of art either. I just wanted to make a game that feels more serious and makes sense within the genre (futa protagonist and all that). If that ain’t your vibe — sorry, but there’s more than enough games out there where story ain’t even second, it’s like third or fourth place.

Funny enough, I was talking about this with my girlfriend not long ago, and she could tell I was in a shitty mood because I’d been stressing for days, wondering if I should cram sex scenes in spots where they don’t belong. And she straight up told me: ‘If even your paying subs still don’t get after a year and a half that you ain’t making sex-for-sex’s-sake, then the sooner they bounce, the easier it’ll be for you to move forward.’

So yeah, hate me if you want for how I see my characters and my stories — but they’re mine. And I ain’t forcing anybody to play them.

No offense, just saying.
 

Geboo

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To be real for a sec, I’ve already answered this before, but I don’t mind repeating it.
ADULT doesn’t mean brain-dead porn or just porn to me. For me, it’s a genre that actually speaks to grown-ass people, one that can dive into heavy shit — violence, drama, psychology, all that. Yeah, I could’ve tossed in some sex scenes in the last chapter, I legit thought about it after seeing all the complaints, but honestly? It would’ve felt cheap as hell.

And I’m not out here trying to make some fancy piece of art either. I just wanted to make a game that feels more serious and makes sense within the genre (futa protagonist and all that). If that ain’t your vibe — sorry, but there’s more than enough games out there where story ain’t even second, it’s like third or fourth place.

Funny enough, I was talking about this with my girlfriend not long ago, and she could tell I was in a shitty mood because I’d been stressing for days, wondering if I should cram sex scenes in spots where they don’t belong. And she straight up told me: ‘If even your paying subs still don’t get after a year and a half that you ain’t making sex-for-sex’s-sake, then the sooner they bounce, the easier it’ll be for you to move forward.’

So yeah, hate me if you want for how I see my characters and my stories — but they’re mine. And I ain’t forcing anybody to play them.

No offense, just saying.
No, no, no hate for you, mine was just an observation and as I said before I loved and will always love your game. It was just an exchange of opinions :)
 

Femerenden

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And I’m not out here trying to make some fancy piece of art either. I just wanted to make a game that feels more serious and makes sense within the genre (futa protagonist and all that). If that ain’t your vibe — sorry, but there’s more than enough games out there where story ain’t even second, it’s like third or fourth place.
The thing I don't really get is that people treat these creative avenues that we experience quite differently to the others we consume. Just because you can directly talk to the developer doesn't mean your options for critique changed. You don't hound a movie director after watching a screening demanding that they either add a certain something or remove a certain something from their film or you will not watch it. Well some people do, but crazy and exceptions are kinda proving a point. If you watched the trailer and didn't like it, you don't go and watch the movie. You looked at the back of the book and the synopsis there didn't get your attention so you put it back on the shelf and move on. Same with here, if it doesn't click, if it doesn't interest you, if there is something you don't like, you don't hound the creator.

These are stories told by the author/developer to us the consumer or player. Yeah you can critique the narrative structure or pacing, visuals, grammar, nearly everything really because they are here, and they are listening to you and responding. But that doesn't mean that the content just turned into a choose your own adventure for you to demand to personally customize it to your preferences. You close it down and don't touch it again.

Personally, would sex scenes be good? Sure, we are here for the story and the sex. Do I know the context of the whole thing? I have no idea I have not played the last update. So what I can say is, I will shut my trap, wait for it to be released, play it and judge it afterwards, and I am not talking in the "inserting sex scenes would have made it better or not or scenes could have been added or not" kind of judgement. I am talking in the "is this a fitting end to the story".

So my two cents? I know it annoys the crap out of you to answer this question over and over again ever since it started, ignore it. You have a story to tell, you have a voice, so go tell the story you want, not what people want to hear.

‘If even your paying subs still don’t get after a year and a half that you ain’t making sex-for-sex’s-sake, then the sooner they bounce, the easier it’ll be for you to move forward.’
Keeper and solid advice.
 
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Kohan54

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I recognize that bag next to Jade so my guess that someone will get kidnapped is most likely true.

Excited for final chapter of the story done only one playtrough completely ignoring one char... Sam mainly because it would be hella confusing with my character called.... Sam o_O Will check it out later.
 

Kind Nightmares

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No, no, no hate for you, mine was just an observation and as I said before I loved and will always love your game. It was just an exchange of opinions :)
Yeah, my bad if it came off wrong. I meant it more as a general thing for folks who are pissed or throwing shade at me. Wasn’t trying to make it sound like a personal attack on you.
 

faldeck

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I look forward to the Final chapter. I love the story and the way the Dev mirrors real life....Choices have consequences. this is one of my favorite games. I am with the Dev, the way the story has gone and the choice made...now the consequences of those choices have come. With how the story has gone so far, especially the last chapter, how can those who have played the game not understand the whole choices HAVE consequences, the final chapter is about what consequences your choices have resulted for your ending. With the story now complete, so if you dont like your ending, you can start over and try another path. As far as the naughty bits go, he has given much of that for you, now you have to face your consequences. Any of the character's can die including Jade based on your choices.... now the consequences. Cheers to the Dev for the awesome story.
 

faldeck

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Yeah, I look forward to see how my choices influences the ending. Good or bad, I am excited to see how it ends
 

faldeck

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Chapter 14 News. #1

There will be 6 main story endings, and each character’s fate will depend directly on which path you reach.
That’s not laziness — that’s a narrative choice. (Yeah right… said every lazy-ass dev ever.)
I spent a lot of time thinking about the best and most logical way to structure this, and this is where I landed.

And yes — in one of those endings, Jade can die.
I’m not telling you this to spoil one of the endings —
I just don’t want anyone coming at me later, acting surprised it’s even an option.
Turns out, some people are very sensitive to this kind of content,
so I figured it’s better to give a heads-up now.

Some other characters will die too.
A few of them like real heroes — and not even by their own choice.
And others... well, you’ll see for yourself.
This final chapter ended up being more emotional and story-driven


See he did say chracters CAN die That is what makes the ending so exciting
 
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jadepaladin

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Chapter 14 News. #1

There will be 6 main story endings, and each character’s fate will depend directly on which path you reach.
That’s not laziness — that’s a narrative choice. (Yeah right… said every lazy-ass dev ever.)
I spent a lot of time thinking about the best and most logical way to structure this, and this is where I landed.

And yes — in one of those endings, Jade can die.
I’m not telling you this to spoil one of the endings —
I just don’t want anyone coming at me later, acting surprised it’s even an option.
Turns out, some people are very sensitive to this kind of content,
so I figured it’s better to give a heads-up now.

Some other characters will die too.
A few of them like real heroes — and not even by their own choice.
And others... well, you’ll see for yourself.
This final chapter ended up being more emotional and story-driven


See he did say chracters CAN die That is what makes the ending so exciting

I can tell some of you are already starting to worry, and you really don’t need to. That’s exactly why I said to take care of yourselves and your nerves — at the end of the day, it’s just a game.

So here’s a bit of reassurance: none of the characters you’ve chosen to romance will die. There’s only one possible LI death, and it only happens if Jade never started a romance with that character. :HideThePain:
 

Elduriel

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I love bittersweet stories and endings, even "bad" ones, so I'm cool with all that.
 

Birdnman993

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Final Chapter Release Dates.

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Changelog:
1334 renders
~12000 words
No sex scenes.

As promised, I’ve added a written walkthrough to the game folder for everyone.
Use it if you feel like your choices didn’t lead to the outcome you were hoping for. And remember: it’s just a game, so don’t stress over it — your comfort always comes first.
Is this real? No wayyyyyy, this is just incredible, I can't believe it, is the end of this great story coming so soon? AMAZIIIIING!!

And it looks like Jade is going to get her revenge, she's going to show that fucking bald son of a bitch the true power of an Alpha Futanari.
 

Peri3481

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I am pretty gutted that this is coming to an end so soon (or what feels like so soon). And yes, ngl, also resigned to disappointment that, in yet another game/VN where the MC has spent day after day knocking up every female in sight, we don't get any preg sex. Especially incest harem preg sex. Dev's vision, I know. But still.
 
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