VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.2] [Nyx]

[LostGhost]

Show me the exactly "empirical evidence" MC was 16 in the sex scene. That's the fun and the whole point. Sure, we both know that the story wouldn't make sense if MC was 18 there. I've also never denied that this impression should be made. What it is about: is it clear enough that Patreon can get stress with Mastercard and/or VISA so that Intertwined can be canceled or not? Nyx' consulted lawyer says that everything is vague enough and one can justify with evidence that there is no violation of Patreon's guidelines. It's sad enough that you've to spend money on a lawyer because of the miserable old-fashioned moral ideas about sexual intercourse of pubescent people of two companies.

So once again, you as the player should draw the right conclusions, but it is not explicitly said or shown that MC and Iris are under 18 years old at the moment of the scenes that are shown.

I don't think MC was 18+ at the time and i don't blame it, it's not uncommon

 

[Dessolos]

Show me the exactly "empirical evidence" MC was 16 in the sex scene. That's the fun and the whole point. Sure, we both know that the story wouldn't make sense if MC was 18 there. I've also never denied that this impression should be made. What it is about: is it clear enough that Patreon can get stress with Mastercard and/or VISA so that Intertwined can be canceled or not? Nyx' consulted lawyer says that everything is vague enough and one can justify with evidence that there is no violation of Patreon's guidelines. It's sad enough that you've to spend money on a lawyer because of the miserable old-fashioned moral ideas about sexual intercourse of pubescent people of two companies.

So once again, you as the player should draw the right conclusions, but it is not explicitly said or shown that MC and Iris are under 18 years old at the moment of the scenes that are shown.

You are right you have to put the pieces together to figure it out he wasn't. but I do think the screenshot someone posted a few replies above yours with John saying he knew the MC since he was 16 all but confirms the age once you consider he didn't meet john till the Iris flashback. But again you have to put the pieces together that he didn't know him till the flashback, so you are right it doesn't directly tell you so probably still vague enough.

 

[cxx]

I know the USA is pretty puritanical, but even (like the majority of the world) in 31 states the AoC is 16.

There really isn't any issue here with the story.

can be when it comes to patreon. patreon is way more strict than what laws etc state.

 

[dolfe67]

Show me the exactly "empirical evidence" MC was 16 in the sex scene. That's the fun and the whole point. Sure, we both know that the story wouldn't make sense if MC was 18 there. I've also never denied that this impression should be made. What it is about: is it clear enough that Patreon can get stress with Mastercard and/or VISA so that Intertwined can be canceled or not? Nyx' consulted lawyer says that everything is vague enough and one can justify with evidence that there is no violation of Patreon's guidelines. It's sad enough that you've to spend money on a lawyer because of the miserable old-fashioned moral ideas about sexual intercourse of pubescent people of two companies.

So once again, you as the player should draw the right conclusions, but it is not explicitly said or shown that MC and Iris are under 18 years old at the moment of the scenes that are shown.

Nyx' lawyer

She was probably trolling you

 

[cxx]

Nyx said MC dated iris for 2 years
MC was 16 or maybe 15 and half with iris
She will probably rewrite it cuz it's obvious as fuck and not vague

nyx would have if he considered that it'd need to.

 

[hakuna-matata]

Change the topic already!!!!

 

[SerHawkes]

To end the arguement here: The MC is currently 18. We dated Iris for 2 years, 18-2 = 16. Therefore, the MC lost their virginity at 16. Generally speaking, the age of consent is 16 in most countries. Therefore, end of arguement.

Now... To get a slide of Erynn's Mom...

 

[Darkwen]

To end the arguement here: The MC is currently 18. We dated Iris for 2 years, 18-2 = 16. Therefore, the MC lost their virginity at 16. Generally speaking, the age of consent is 16 in most countries. Therefore, end of arguement.

Now... To get a slide of Erynn's Mom...

it would be under age sex she was showing if mc was16

 

[Mravac Kid]

To end the arguement here: The MC is currently 18. We dated Iris for 2 years, 18-2 = 16. Therefore, the MC lost their virginity at 16. Generally speaking, the age of consent is 16 in most countries. Therefore, end of arguement.

Except that the argument concerns *depiction* of sex between minors, which *is* illegal pretty much everywhere.

 

[Dessolos]

so anyways which LI do you guys think has the best tits and ass... For me Elena = tits because of the color of her nipples and Val best ass

 

[AchedCroissant]

To end the arguement here: The MC is currently 18. We dated Iris for 2 years, 18-2 = 16. Therefore, the MC lost their virginity at 16. Generally speaking, the age of consent is 16 in most countries. Therefore, end of arguement.

Now... To get a slide of Erynn's Mom...

This is true? I'm going to report this to the Patreon admins.

 

[SerHawkes]

so anyways which LI do you guys think has the best tits and ass... For me Elena = tits because of the color of her nipples and Val best ass

Melissa by a fucking mile.

 

[Darkwen]

This is true? I'm going to report this to the Patreon admins.
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She's come close to showing child breast might to tell them about that to Nyx is sooo dirty

 

[AchedCroissant]

She's come close to showing child breast might to tell them about that to Nyx is sooo dirty

Nyx waking up tomorrow and finding that her patreon page has been nuked

 

[Jacowboy]

Whatever, my point was that the Patreon excuse for the non-incest thing doesn't fly... it literally doesn't stop any other incest AVN out there...

 

[LSC82]

Let's check what the Int... nope.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

It's your mind not the game. If you wanna see those "hinting of some developments between MC and his mother" you'll see it. All I see is a good mother-son-relationship. You know, not all guys want to fuck their mom and have still a good relationship.

This is patently false. I say that as someone who finds zero appeal in incest and would be fine with no game having a 'muh landlord' character ever again.

It's obvious to an objective eye that Nyx teases the incest issue, with otherwise unneccesary dialogue prompts - like the whole "can I join you at the beach?" From the non-incest perspective, it's jarring and out of place.

This isn't the only instance of stuff like this. Someone pointed out earlier in the thread Nyx seems to like teasing these issues - in the same way that a bunch of the mom scenes are "incest-bait", you have a bunch of the scenes with Erynn being "ntr-bait". They don't actually contain anything, but you'd have to be glib not to read between the lines at what the author is conveying.

One could even extend this to the age nonesense people have been blathering about for the past 2 pages. Again, Nyx teases an issue which is a near-and-dear debate to a certain fetish crowd (in this case it's loli or similar).


-sidebar:

Don't take my use of pejoratives to suggest these debates are strange or unreasonable... that's basically what these forums are for. Everyone has their favorite fetishes, and each of those fetishes spawn common debates which have enthusiastic participants from members of that respective fetish group. Just so happens that loli, ntr, and incest aren't mine.

Except that the argument concerns *depiction* of sex between minors, which *is* illegal pretty much everywhere.

Yeah, except for a little place called the US of fucking A, which likely constitutes a majority of the users. Why do people keep repeating this falsehood? Again, I've zero interest in loli stuff, but US law is crystal clear on digital depictions of pornoraphic acts; any restriction would risk violating the first amendment.

so anyways which LI do you guys think has the best tits and ass... For me Elena = tits because of the color of her nipples and Val best ass

Can't judge asses, not an assman. For bewbs, it's a tie between Val and Layla. Built for speed or built for comfort? Layla's look more realistic though, and if I were forced to pick one it'd be Layla, if only to slight the intentionally-perfect Val.

 

[Mravac Kid]

Yeah, except for a little place called the US of fucking A, which likely constitutes a majority of the users. Why do people keep repeating this falsehood? Again, I've zero interest in loli stuff, but US law is crystal clear on digital depictions of pornoraphic acts; any restriction would risk violating the first amendment.

You sure about that? This bit of legislation doesn't agree with you.
" Images of child pornography are not protected under First Amendment rights, and are illegal contraband under federal law. Section 2256 of Title 18, United States Code, defines child pornography as any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor (someone under 18 years of age)."

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[HentaiKami]

Yeah, except for a little place called the US of fucking A, which likely constitutes a majority of the users. Why do people keep repeating this falsehood? Again, I've zero interest in loli stuff, but US law is crystal clear on digital depictions of pornoraphic acts; any restriction would risk violating the first amendment.

Just to point out that 1st amendmend doesn't mean you can say or express whatever you wish, and not have any consequences. There are very specific limitations to free speech, for example you can't yell fire in full theater if there's no fire.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

You sure about that? This bit of legislation doesn't agree with you.
" Images of child pornography are not protected under First Amendment rights, and are illegal contraband under federal law. Section 2256 of Title 18, United States Code, defines child pornography as any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor (someone under 18 years of age)."

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disclaimer - I'm not a lawyer. I'd love to hear an attorney weigh in.

I wouldn't use the language on the DoJ website, as it tends to summarize with language often representating an enforcement agency's interests.

The actual USC text:

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. Of interest to us are definitions 8-11. I suspect there's some nuance in the terms like "identifiable minor" (looks like a real person somewhere) that prevents purely digital creations from inclusion.

The reason I suspect this is because

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from 20 years ago is quite clear on SCOTUS's stance towards fictional digital recreations of otherwise childlike characters.

This case's outcome struck down

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. What I couldn't tell you (and I'd love for a lawyer to interject); is the relationship between the ccp act and the current language used in chapter 110 of 18 USC. Obviously, this has been amended since the creation of the internet; I just don't know what else played into it; and what the current correct interpretation is.