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Looks like Emily and Melissa met the same John but Erynn and MC at the store met the twin. Or Nyx seriously fucked up the tattoos.
 

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Well he is a Turk..they have zero respect for women, especially if they are foreign and with another man.
You know nothing about us. You make a generalisation by saying "Turks are disrespectful", I think you are a racist. I want you to know that we gave women the right to vote and be elected in 1930 and this was before most western countries.
 

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You know nothing about us. You make a generalisation by saying "Turks are disrespectful", I think you are a racist. I want you to know that we gave women the right to vote and be elected in 1930 and this was before most western countries.
And so did Spain in 1933...doesn't change the facts about a cultures general disdain for women and how they are treated.

Oh and for ref...UK was 1918...just to show how progressive some countries really were, including your own ;)

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And so did Spain in 1933...doesn't change the facts about a cultures general disdain for how women how treated.

Oh and for ref...UK was 1918...just to show how progressive some countries really were, including your own ;)

Good day.
you know nothing jon snow
 

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Looks like Emily and Melissa met the same John but Erynn and MC at the store met the twin. Or Nyx seriously fucked up the tattoos.
Damn it, I hope both johns don't fuck our mum. :D
 
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It's the same John and what's the problem? She's an adult and she's a single. She can fuck whoever she wants. It was very weird she asked MC if he is fine when she goes on a date with John.
She asks mc about her date with john because the avn market has been taken over by the harem mafia. These mafia members want to have all the women, it is unbearable for them that girls even talk to other men. I guess Nyx felt pressurised, so she gave him the option. John's a cool guy, I think he'd make a good stepdad.
 
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It's the same John and what's the problem? She's an adult and she's a single. She can fuck whoever she wants. It was very weird she asked MC if he is fine when she goes on a date with John.
i don't agree with that tbh. It was nice of her to ask, not like she was asking a permission but MC dated Iris and he is still close to Iris and John. So it could be weird if not she mentioned beforehand. Though you are right she has right to do whatever she wants it's more like a courtesy to ask.
What it was weird for me when MC has seen Melissa and Emily kissing that he freaked out, what the hell man. What's it to you? They can have fun. There was no need to freak out. I was expecting he'd joke about it, like it does not look like a paperwork to me or something like that but he freaked out. :unsure:

For the twin thing, I was mostly joking but his tattoos don't match more than one occasion. :giggle:
 

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It's the same John and what's the problem? She's an adult and she's a single. She can fuck whoever she wants. It was very weird she asked MC if he is fine when she goes on a date with John.
the dev knows how emotionally immature some of the avn demographic is.
Not really, my own mother asked me about dating again (lot older then emily admitted) after my stepfather died. Called politeness and asking an opinion and taking someone else into consideration (even if not required).
i don't agree with that tbh. It was nice of her to ask, not like she was asking a permission but MC dated Iris and he is still close to Iris and John. So it could be weird if not she mentioned beforehand. Though you are right she has right to do whatever she wants it's more like a courtesy to ask.
What it was weird for me when MC has seen Melissa and Emily kissing that he freaked out, what the hell man. What's it to you? They can have fun. There was no need to freak out. I was expecting he'd joke about it, like it does not look like a paperwork to me or something like that but he freaked out. :unsure:
This... (y)
 

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i don't agree with that tbh. It was nice of her to ask, not like she was asking a permission but MC dated Iris and he is still close to Iris and John. So it could be weird if not she mentioned beforehand. Though you are right she has right to do whatever she wants it's more like a courtesy to ask.
What it was weird for me when MC has seen Melissa and Emily kissing that he freaked out, what the hell man. What's it to you? They can have fun. There was no need to freak out. I was expecting he'd joke about it, like it does not look like a paperwork to me or something like that but he freaked out. :unsure:

For the twin thing, I was mostly joking but his tattoos don't match more than one occasion. :giggle:
The reason he was freaking out about Melissa and Emily having sex was something else. I don't remember exactly, but she blamed this relationship for her breakup with her father for a short time and then she calmed down quickly.
 
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asked for permission or discussed it with you?
Both.

Again, my mother was a lot older and to be fair, different circumstances in that I grew up my stepfather unlike the MC. However, my mother becoming involved with someone else still affects me, our relationship and possibly financially at some point.

Again, it's called basic respect even if she had no requirement to do so. Just because you'tre an adult and can do whatever the fuck you want without consideration for anyone or anything else....doesn't mean you should.
 

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It was nice of her to ask, not like she was asking a permission but MC dated Iris and he is still close to Iris and John. So it could be weird if not she mentioned beforehand. Though you are right she has right to do whatever she wants it's more like a courtesy to ask.
She shouldn't have asked him. It's okay that she informs him, but she asks for his permission. It's even a choice. MC simply has no say in the matter. It's nice that Emily involves him, but ultimately in the wrong way. These are choices that free people have to make for themselves. Their children, parents, siblings, whoever, don't get to interfere. The only exception is if you know that she is planning to date a proven bad person, e.g. someone who beats women or children or says things like: "Either you're mine or you're your land." But then it's not about refusing "permission", it's about protecting this person from a bad person.
 

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Both.

Again, my mother was a lot older and to be fair, different circumstances in that I grew up my stepfather unlike the MC. However, my mother becoming involved with someone else still affects me, our relationship and possibly financially at some point.

Again, it's called basic respect even if she had no requirement to do so.
this is getting off topic but,
out of sheer curiosity, what do you think she would do if you said you weren't comfortable with her seeking companionship?
 

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this is getting off topic but,
out of sheer curiosity, what do you think she would do if you said you weren't comfortable with her seeking companionship?
Don't have to think at all. One I freely gave my blessing to and two I was dead set against (for financial reasons). The two I was against, one she took my advice and didn't date him..the other she ignored me and did anyway..then found out what a mistake it was.

Don't think me for something I'm not. I was never (and still aren't now she is almost 80) against her meeting someone again. If I think the guy alright and not suss I have no issue with it. However, given details I'm not discussing over the net with strnagers, I will personally vet anyone she might be interested in (not that I think she actually cares anymore now at her age).
 
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She shouldn't have asked him. It's okay that she informs him, but she asks for his permission. It's even a choice. MC simply has no say in the matter. It's nice that Emily involves him, but ultimately in the wrong way. These are choices that free people have to make for themselves. Their children, parents, siblings, whoever, don't get to interfere. The only exception is if you know that she is planning to date a proven bad person, e.g. someone who beats women or children or says things like: "Either you're mine or you're your land." But then it's not about refusing "permission", it's about protecting this person from a bad person.
I do agree with you, at the end it is only Emily's choice but like Maviarab said it will effect MC too and also it was not asking permission, she asked what do you think about it she did not say can I.
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When he said go for it, he even acknowledged she did not need a permission and said John is a good guy.
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When he is against it, he did not say he is not allowing it he said it will feel weird since Iris is his ex.
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All in all, I believe you are absolutely correct about this in general. She definitely does not need a permission from him. Or in general, no one has such an authority over others as long as they are consenting adults. Though, in this situation Emily was not asking a permission, more like informing him and asking his opinion. After all, MC knows John and can make an informed guess whether or not they would be a match and can talk how does he feel about it. When he is against it, he is not saying you can't do that he is talking about that would make him uncomfortable.
 
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I do agree with you, at the end it is only Emily's choice but like Maviarab said it will effect MC too and also it was not asking permission, she asked what do you think about it she did not say can I.
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When he said go for it, he even acknowledged she did not need a permission and said John is a good guy.
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When he is against it, he did not say he is not allowing it he said it will feel weird since Iris is his ex.
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All in all, I believe you are absolutely correct about this in general. She definitely does not need a permission from him. Or in general, no one has such an authority over others as long as they are consenting adults. Though, in this situation Emily was not asking a permission, more like informing him and asking his opinion. After all, MC knows John and make an informed guess whether or not they would be a match. When he is against it, he is not saying you can't do that he is talking about that would make him uncomfortable.
Exactly 100% this. Makes even more sense within the context of this VN (compared to my personal situation) because Emily knows that her son knows the guy. I mean, in any sense of reality, why would you NOT discuss it with them?

Getting slightly OT again, but staying OT within the realms of possibilities....suppose John only appears to be a good guy...does Emily own her own house outright? The resteraunt? MC is Emily's only child. He should inherit everything. If emily's new relationship gets the point of marriage (regardless of who it is with)...that creates a whole future financial can of worms that I'm sorry...as a parent you should be thinking about...hence again, why the fuck would you not discuss this with your children? (Not terribly relevent in this VN as the MC still a kid...but fast forward 30 years.....).
 

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She shouldn't have asked him. It's okay that she informs him, but she asks for his permission. It's even a choice. MC simply has no say in the matter. It's nice that Emily involves him, but ultimately in the wrong way. These are choices that free people have to make for themselves. Their children, parents, siblings, whoever, don't get to interfere. The only exception is if you know that she is planning to date a proven bad person, e.g. someone who beats women or children or says things like: "Either you're mine or you're your land." But then it's not about refusing "permission", it's about protecting this person from a bad person.
God, I don't know why you made such a big deal out of this sentence ("Either you're mine or you're your land.") You made a big deal out of it to say that Turks are disrespectful to women. I am not disrespectful, I am not even sexist or homophobic. It is certain that you misunderstood. Or I don't know if the translation misled you because I'm not good at English. It's just a promise that you love someone very much. Like, I belong to you forever, and if I don't, I'm in the ground. I hope the translation makes you understand correctly.
 

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Your mother that you live under her roof still should not ask your opinion/blessing on dating your good friend and the father of your ex girlfriend? Don't let future consequences and accountability stand in the way of virtue signaling that she should do what she wants. :FacePalm::FacePalm:

I sincerely hope you didn't have these type of parents, or Lord forbit become one.
 
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