VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.1] [Nyx]

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

I'm on board with Dark Silence on this one.
I find cliffhanger just annoying at this point...so fucking annoying, not only in this game, mind you.
So many devs put that crap every single fucking time for each update...and it almost never amounts to anything (badik as a good example), so i'm not intrigued of what will happen, it just pisses me off.

Cliffhanger can be good, let's say season ending of a series that already got the next season's approval. It makes you keep engage the story, there is a mark in your head until you see the next season. It does not necessarily something bad but mostly something curios. Recently though, the meaning of it shifted and they corrupted the idea. They are putting the cliffhanger for the sake of it. They don't have any idea how to take the next step, so usually they go with it looked like that but actually it was not or worse they keep the scene short for cliffhanger purpose, it's like stopping a sentence halfway through. That is just annoying, they don't make people curious they aim to make people furious and try to engage that emotion.

I am not sure what will Nyx gonna do or what is she planning but I'd welcome a good cliffhanger and refuse tease-hanger.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Cliffhanger can be good, let's say season ending of a series that already got the next season's approval. It makes you keep engage the story, there is a mark in your head until you see the next season. It does not necessarily something bad but mostly something curios. Recently though, the meaning of it shifted and they corrupted the idea. They are putting the cliffhanger for the sake of it. They don't have any idea how to take the next step, so usually they go with it looked like that but actually it was not or worse they keep the scene short for cliffhanger purpose, it's like stopping a sentence halfway through. That is just annoying, they don't make people curious they aim to make people furious and try to engage that emotion.

I am not sure what will Nyx gonna do or what is she planning but I'd welcome a good cliffhanger and refuse tease-hanger.

For me, a cliffhanger is never good. I grew up with them and hated it. I gave up on all my TV shows. It's why I spent more time playin games outside and later playin sports and goin to the gym.

 

[motseer]

For me, a cliffhanger is never good. I grew up with them and hated it. I gave up on all my TV shows. It's why I spent more time playin games outside and later playin sports and goin to the gym.

Spoiler: Cliffhanger: Not Good

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[Raziel_8]

Cliffhanger can be good, let's say season ending of a series that already got the next season's approval. It makes you keep engage the story, there is a mark in your head until you see the next season. It does not necessarily something bad but mostly something curios. Recently though, the meaning of it shifted and they corrupted the idea. They are putting the cliffhanger for the sake of it. They don't have any idea how to take the next step, so usually they go with it looked like that but actually it was not or worse they keep the scene short for cliffhanger purpose, it's like stopping a sentence halfway through. That is just annoying, they don't make people curious they aim to make people furious and try to engage that emotion.

I am not sure what will Nyx gonna do or what is she planning but I'd welcome a good cliffhanger and refuse tease-hanger.

Personaly i always preferd a clean end and then the next season, but yeah these kind of cliffhanger are ok, or if it is a large episode which is split and you know you just need to wait a few days.
But as you said, most cliffhanger nowdays have no purpose, like cutting scenes short or 'but actually it wasn't as it looked' those two piss me off and if a series does that often i usually just stop watching.

That being said, i find it already hard to find series or movies which interest me nowdays.
Dunno, most of the new stuff seems to be aimed at younger (or sometimes i really think dumber) generations, and i have little interest watching teen drama. Or when they insert dumb diversity quotas or worse political crap which is often portrait in a 'in your face' way and if you don't agree your wrong/evil/the problem etc, i really can't stand that when i just want some good entertainment.

These fuckers pretty much ruined all scifi shows i once liked.

Nowdays you get Star Trek...were you can listen endless whining of a gay couple in the machine room and the bridge is filled with crying and sobbing every other scene
Patrick Stewart doesn't play Picard any longer but Patrick Stewart plays Patrick Stewart and somehow the whole 'better future thing' also got down the drain.

Star Wars...do i need to say anything ? I stood up and left the cinema in the as i saw the dumb mary poppins scene as i couldn't stand the garbage anymore.

Never got warm with Battlestar Galactica either, had not much left with the show i liked as kid.

And i'm still waiting for a good movie like Beverly hills cop...or the Bud Spencer/Terence Hill movies

Meh, sorry i'm just ranting at this point

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Meh, sorry i'm just ranting at this point

Yes you are ranting but no need to be sorry, I share the rant. I don't like most of the new stuff, I still rewatching stuff at least from a decade ago.

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

Personaly i always preferd a clean end and then the next season, but yeah these kind of cliffhanger are ok, or if it is a large episode which is split and you know you just need to wait a few days.
But as you said, most cliffhanger nowdays have no purpose, like cutting scenes short or 'but actually it wasn't as it looked' those two piss me off and if a series does that often i usually just stop watching.

That being said, i find it already hard to find series or movies which interest me nowdays.
Dunno, most of the new stuff seems to be aimed at younger (or sometimes i really think dumber) generations, and i have little interest watching teen drama. Or when they insert dumb diversity quotas or worse political crap which is often portrait in a 'in your face' way and if you don't agree your wrong/evil/the problem etc, i really can't stand that when i just want some good entertainment.

These fuckers pretty much ruined all scifi shows i once liked.

Nowdays you get Star Trek...were you can listen endless whining of a gay couple in the machine room and the bridge is filled with crying and sobbing every other scene
Patrick Stewart doesn't play Picard any longer but Patrick Stewart plays Patrick Stewart and somehow the whole 'better future thing' also got down the drain.

Star Wars...do i need to say anything ? I stood up and left the cinema in the as i saw the dumb mary poppins scene as i couldn't stand the garbage anymore.

Never got warm with Battlestar Galactica either, had not much left with the show i liked as kid.

And i'm still waiting for a good movie like Beverly hills cop...or the Bud Spencer/Terence Hill movies

Meh, sorry i'm just ranting at this point

Sorry Sir , my son said to me " Hey , take it or leave it , so I leave it "

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

Sorry Sir , my son said to me " Hey , take it or leave it , so I leave it "

you will stop laughing when you have 21 yo son next month.

 

[valbitterb]

I promise you this, I quit the game the second Nyx pulls something like this and I will never look behind.

God forbid I've given her bad ideas with the Mr. Coleman meme. I would probably quit too if she pulled some ridiculous twists.

And I'll be all:

I saw The Thing on bootleg Betamax when I was seven or eight. It freaked the hell out of me. I love that movie.

Meh, sorry i'm just ranting at this point

I agree. The overall quality of entertainment, art, and many facets human life has gone down the drain.

Since they weren't available to me before the internet, I've instead been watching a lot more older media from the 20th century.

Sorry Sir , my son said to me " Hey , take it or leave it , so I leave it "

I leave a lot of current things too. I go back to older things.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

I saw The Thing on bootleg Betamax when I was seven or eight. It freaked the hell out of me. I love that movie.

Great movie for sure.

 

[balazar]

Maybe. I'm old and never really got into his brand of comedy. Same with Gallager.

the only melon i wanted to seen with a sledgehammer was one his annoying voice came out of

 

[nyrek]

These fuckers pretty much ruined all scifi shows i once liked.

on a scale of 10 to 10, how much do you hate matt ward?
everything he did to the lore and everything they've done since...
I don't know man...

Nowdays you get Star Trek...were you can listen endless whining of a gay couple in the machine room and the bridge is filled with crying and sobbing every other scene
Patrick Stewart doesn't play Picard any longer but Patrick Stewart plays Patrick Stewart and somehow the whole 'better future thing' also got down the drain.

trek died the day klingons stopped looking like worf, martok, gowron...
I stopped STD after a few episodes
never gave picard a chance
I was satisfied with the orville though. even though it's mcfarlane, the show has some serious trek moments and episodes
if you haven't, I suggest you give it a chance

And i'm still waiting for a good movie like Beverly hills cop...or the Bud Spencer/Terence Hill movies

agreed! we need the good old 80s his-partner-got-killed-and-now-he's-getting-revenge movies back


I agree with most of things said
I've seen a comment in the past few days saying "yet another game which gave up the N part for the V part"
lots of new games I've tried in the last two years have been visually great but fail to deliver on the story
sure, you can watch shiny renders or the new 60fps animation thing (...) but how many new games reeled you in with the story?
I was lucky enough to avoid most of the usual "oh, MC I see you are a male and therefore have a penis so I would like to bang you" games and played stuff people recommended but I got reeled only on one new game and it was because it was wacky

now intertwined never had a story that reeled me in and I dislike a lot of the stuff in the game itself, I just find it ridiculous. I just liked mel from the first moment I saw her and that was it
after the resolution of that last cliffhanger with "erynn" behind the dumpster, I got so tilted that I didn't know if I should just turn off the game, delete it or continue playing for shits and giggles.
I have completely lowered my expectations now and just find the new cliffhanger stupid
not just because it's a cliffhanger but to add insult to injury, this 6 months cycle was for a short episode in which nothing happens. nyx already said the next episode will be a longer one. so to reach the conclusion of said clifhanger, we'll have to wait for what, 8? 9 months? we'll have an easter break, the summer vacation, add some rework on older episodes she might do... I don't expect episode 13 coming out before novemeber.
and that's just... unacceptable

 

[Porthas]

Yes you are ranting but no need to be sorry, I share the rant. I don't like most of the new stuff, I still rewatching stuff at least from a decade ago.

Almost everything being made now is a retread/ripoff of stuff from before and a lot of it just adds gender/race swaps and gay. Hollyweird is artistically bankrupt at this point.

Maybe that's why the Korean soap operas are getting more popular on Netflix.

 

[Raziel_8]

on a scale of 10 to 10, how much do you hate matt ward?

I'd say somewhere around 10, fucking smurf sucker

trek died the day klingons stopped looking like worf, martok, gowron...
I stopped STD after a few episodes
never gave picard a chance
I was satisfied with the orville though. even though it's mcfarlane, the show has some serious trek moments and episodes
if you haven't, I suggest you give it a chance

Yeah i gave STD several changes and didn't make it far, cinematics aside, everything is else is garbage + fucking up the lore. And yeah, that were not klingons...heck even the klingons in TOS looked better.
I dunno who wrote that shit, but they either never watched star trek or they hated it...

Orville on the other hand is great, what i hoped the new star trek would be.

agreed! we need the good old 80s his-partner-got-killed-and-now-he's-getting-revenge movies back

Yeah count me in.

I agree with most of things said
I've seen a comment in the past few days saying "yet another game which gave up the N part for the V part"
lots of new games I've tried in the last two years have been visually great but fail to deliver on the story
sure, you can watch shiny renders or the new 60fps animation thing (...) but how many new games reeled you in with the story?
I was lucky enough to avoid most of the usual "oh, MC I see you are a male and therefore have a penis so I would like to bang you" games and played stuff people recommended but I got reeled only on one new game and it was because it was wacky

Yes, pretty much this. Same problem i have with so many new movies & games, they can have the best visuals there are, but without a good story and characters that amounts to nothing.

LOL, yeah 60fps and in 8k and jokes like that...sorry, but the fuck do you need that for in a VN ?

Or the new trend of adding animations everywhere, like character walking and such, i don't know why you would add that in the first place, it doesn't add anything of value to the game imo, but adds a lot of work for something which could be done in a couple of renders (DPC and Ocean are especialy notorious for that).

It's already hard to find VN's here were the MC is likeable, not some creep/pervert/(and much as i dislike the term) a little beta bitch which takes any shit because titts...and not to forget the ''best friend'' which i most of the times want dead after meeting him once or twice (like Zach)

now intertwined never had a story that reeled me in and I dislike a lot of the stuff in the game itself, I just find it ridiculous. I just liked mel from the first moment I saw her and that was it
after the resolution of that last cliffhanger with "erynn" behind the dumpster, I got so tilted that I didn't know if I should just turn off the game, delete it or continue playing for shits and giggles.
I have completely lowered my expectations now and just find the new cliffhanger stupid
not just because ito's a cliffhanger but to add insult to injury, this 6 months cycle was for a short episode in which nothing happens. nyx lready said the next episode will be a longet one. so to reach the conclusion of said clifhanger, we'll have to wait for, what, 8? 9 months? we'll have an easter break, the summer vacation, add some rework on older episodes she might do... I don't expect episode 13 coming out before novemeber.
and that's just... unacceptable

I like the game, a bit too much drama for dramas sake at times, but overall good.
Yeah, that cliffhanger, i could only roll the eyes to that...i mean, it was pretty clear it wasn't Erynn, like Nyx would kill off the main drama source.
Yes the updates take ever longer, sadly. And i admit i facepalmed hard when i read one reason was because Nyx was going full into creating music, song writing, recording etc for the game herself and she found out it takes a lot of time...

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

trek died the day klingons stopped looking like worf, martok, gowron...

Trek died when Klingons stopped lookin like this and became mutants.

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

Trek died when Klingons stopped lookin like this and became mutants.
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that is right sir , definitely right but WHO IS TREK , and yes I live under a rock in a dark cave.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

that is right sir , definitely right but WHO IS TREK , and yes I live under a rock in a dark cave.

Star Trek the original series with Captain James T. Kirk.

 

[Porthas]

Man she must really hate them harem folks. She makes the wamen choices as in-your-face and painful as possible, sometimes. The timing on this one...

 

[Tremonia]

Trek died when Klingons stopped lookin like this and became mutants.

TOS was shit. The only good thing was it leads to TNG.

 

[Porthas]

TOS was shit. The only good thing was it leads to TNG.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

TOS was shit. The only good thing was it leads to TNG.

You know what they say right? It's about opinions and assholes.