VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.2] [Nyx]

[Dr.TSoni]

I swear every update has a new way to break poor Alexis's heart.

Leave Alexis Alone

 

[Kalloman]

Do you think that this will matter in future?

 

[byaaahh]

Sure, I'm not saying he was. The point of my post is that they are all flawed human beings. That clearly shouldn't have happened, but that action wasn't in character with anything he's done previously, so I chalk that up to Nyx manipulating emotions.

I mean prior to the reveal of him not being the father we know next to nothing, only that he and Emily divorced for undetermined reasons and he kept Haley secret for a year.

After the reveal, we learn he has a jealous streak and a temper when it comes to Emily and he was out with another woman the day before his wedding with Haley. Being confronted with his infidelity and him lashing out doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

 

[MightbeSomeone]

Iris' father, I believe.
Reminds me of the old joke.
"I'm always frank and earnest with women.

Frank in Chicago, and Ernest in Detroit."

And prob erynns dad

 

[GamerMcGameFace]

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It has a minor scene later in this episode where Alexis pretends to be stuck under a table and asks the MC to help her as her step-bro. Unfortunately I don’t see it having much of an impact later, like actual role playing, but it would be a pleasant surprise if Nyx does add that.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Though weirdly if you don't roleplay, she makes sure that door is locked lolz. With roleplay, anybody can walk in on these two.

 

[Krytax123]

It has a minor scene later in this episode where Alexis pretends to be stuck under a table and asks the MC to help her as her step-bro. Unfortunately I don’t see it having much of an impact later, like actual role playing, but it would be a pleasant surprise if Nyx does add that.

I hope not lol, really no need to waste development time at stepbro/stepsis "roleplay" lmao

just get your fix from one of the million incest avns here

 

[__b]

-10000 points because there is almost zero melissa content

 

[GamerMcGameFace]

I hope not lol, really no need to waste development time at stepbro/stepsis "roleplay" lmao

just get your fix from one of the million incest avns here

I meant role play as in making use of the Halloween costumes that they went shopping for several episodes for, not incest.

 

[jadepaladin]

I mean prior to the reveal of him not being the father we know next to nothing, only that he and Emily divorced for undetermined reasons and he kept Haley secret for a year.

After the reveal, we learn he has a jealous streak and a temper when it comes to Emily and he was out with another woman the day before his wedding with Haley. Being confronted with his infidelity and him lashing out doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

I thought him verbally lashing out at Emily in the flashback of Emily's story was a setup to the eventual physical altercation between him and MC. You establish he has a temper and then later on it hits a boiling point. Him keeping Haley as a secret from MC for a year didn't help (I don't remember his reasoning exactly). Tack on the fact he's an idiot (walking around in public with another woman for literally anyone to spot). Nyx really piled on some bad characterizations in order to balance him raising MC for those five years.

If the Erynn confession had went differently, would the MC have even moved to be with Andres? I think not.

 

[Dessolos]

I wonder if there will be possibility to have love triangle MC - Alexis - Erynn.

Spoiler: threesome dialogue

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Opinions?

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Well since the Roleplay option leads to a sex scene I made a backup save to make 3 more Alexis saves later. Because of that im more inclined to think a potential threesome with Erynn can happen but still very unlikely. I think if it does happen it will be very hard to get. I think You have to be on both Alexis and Erynn's path and make the correct choices to avoid any breakups , sleep with Erynn first ( whenever that happens) and potentially resolve the Ethan blackmail storyline. I also think the other options could potential come into effect maybe as well

 

[doovel]

It is an interesting debate; both sides have a point.

Andres raises a kid he knows that's not his own, regardless of the reason that's yooge. Was it for selfish reasons? Perhaps at first, he did it to leverage Emily's feelings, but once she broke up with him, he still did it. For five years, he did so without Emily's input, and if not for Emily blurting out that he's not the father in desperation (more on that later), he probably still would be. Yes, he turns out to be a womanizer, but we have no proof that he wasn't a womanizer with Emily. The only reason he got caught cheating on Haley was that MC had seen him. But that has little to do with this debate other than it turns MC off from him, so we'll move on.

When Santi is told he has a kid, he doesn't react in the best way. He likely has his parents pressuring him to drop her off, and when he goes to see her, she rejects him and disappears. He randomly runs into her and learns about the kid but still has to stay away from him because that's not his kid any more. So he watches from afar and interacts with him when he can, but he's not forcing the relationship. Could he have fought harder for his kid? Sure, but he also had parents pressuring him and his future in danger. I'm not saying what he did was right, but from a character standpoint, I get it. He took the path of least resistance, which I could see why that pisses people off.

Which leads us to Emily. She's living out her wild college days and gets knocked up. Emily is probably not ready to be a mom yet, but she knuckles up and settles down. She tells Santi, and he doesn't react in the best way. Then Santi's parents try to force her into an abortion, so she decides, for the sake of her child, to go with the dependable guy, but also a guy she doesn't love. She stays in this loveless marriage until she likely accidentally breaks one of his conditions by meeting the child's father in a chance meeting. Then they break up. By this point, everything is fine; her child has a father, and they're successfully co-parenting; then, she loses her child for five years because of something that has nothing to do with her. He finally returns and catches her with Melissa; seeing that he's angry and she'll likely lose him again, she desperately reveals the truth about his father to stop him from running away again. Was that selfish? Sure, but what choice did she have at that point? Ultimately, sure, she could've been more careful if she was living out her wild college days, but when push came to shove, she stepped up.

They all did regrettable things, but nobody is the bad guy. That being said, I could see an argument being made against all three if one wanted to do so.

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She didn’t lose her kid for 5 years, she sent him away. Because she couldn’t or didn’t want to handle him.

She didn’t accidentally break the agreement, she saw him behind Andres' back.

She led on a guy so he would help raise her child, that is in no way, shape or form a ‘good’ thing. Not for the guy she’s doing it to. Had she loved him, I would’ve agreed it would be a good mutual agreement. But she never loved him, and she knew she never would. That is beyond shitty.

Santi didn’t just not fight hard, he barely fought at all. He also has the option to tell his parents he wants to take care of his kid and that they will have to accept that.

The only ‘bad’ thing we see Andres do up to that point is call Emily a slut for being knocked up by someone else.

When push came to shove 13 years later, Emily sends her biological son to his adoptive father because she can’t or won’t handle him. If she wasn’t willing to step up, she should have gotten an abortion.

Just so we’re clear, if you accidentally end up making a kid and decide to keep it anyway. That’s admirable in my book. It’s everything that happens afterwards that’s problematic. You don’t just get to send your kid away because he’s being problematic.

Emily has all the makings of a great parent without the actual follow through. Everything is framed as “not her fault or responsibility” when clearly it is. This happens with Santiago’s responsibility and faults too.

It’s framed as Santiago and Emily were in love, but because of Andres their love couldn’t come to fruition.

When in reality he acts like a stand up guy generally. Even if he initially does it because he’s in love with someone who won’t reciprocate.

All the problems with Andres happen later, we can’t use those to pretend he must have always been a shitty guy.

 

[Dessolos]

honestly my biggest problem with Andres and why I don't like him. Is the ultimatum of Emily has to keep the secret of the MC's true father a secret. It's one thing to say he doesn't want Emily to have contact with Santi but to also cut him out of the MC's life fuck that. I know it's also on Emily for agreeing but the fact that it is his idea and ultimatum automatically makes me hate him. Doesn't matter if he was a stand up and good guy for years.

For me that is worst than him cheating on Hayley if he really did as far as I can tell we don't have solid proof he did just saw him walking with another women.

 

[Krytax123]

I meant role play as in making use of the Halloween costumes that they went shopping for several episodes for, not incest.

Oh i see, yeah im down for yen alexis gimme the unicorn

 

[misfolk]

Finished the Nikki path and I had fun with her on the gym date. Those two clearly have chemistry for days. Also, of course Im likely going to have to break Alexis's heart in the next update. I swear every update has a new way to break poor Alexis's heart.

I can't do that. Not because it's her poor heart, but because while the MC is stupid, he's not THAT stupid. If you have two girls that you love and have to choose between them, don't break the heart of the one with a rich dad.

 

[JosephCosta]

my theory is the Valeria and mc are half-siblings, Gabi seems to keep her eyes open for her, and we know she is married to mc father, and valeria seemed embarrassed when Zach bear hugged her at competition while santi was watching. a weak theory i know, but for some reason cant shake the feeling, or at the very least she must be related to gabi. now tell me how wrong i am my fellow perverts

 

[Pgsurprise]

I did call it didn't I.

Well done! Tomorrow I predict the sun will rise .

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

She didn’t lose her kid for 5 years, she sent him away. Because she couldn’t or didn’t want to handle him.

She didn’t accidentally break the agreement, she saw him behind Andre’s back.

She led on a guy so he would help him raise her child, that is in no way, shape or form a ‘good’ thing. Not for the guy she’s doing it to. Had she loved him, I would’ve agreed it would be a good mutual agreement. But she never loved him, and she knew she never would. That’s is beyond shitty.

Santi didn’t just not fight hard, he barely fought at all. He also has the option to tell his parents he wants to take care of his kid and that they will have to accept that.

The only ‘bad’ thing we see Andres do up to that point is call Emily a slut for being knocked up by someone else.

When push came to shove 13 years later, Emily sends her biological son to his adoptive father because she can’t or won’t handle him. If she wasn’t willing to step up, she should have gotten an abortion.

Just so we’re clear, if you accidentally end up making a kid and decide to keep it anyway. That’s admirable in my book. It’s everything that happens afterwards that’s problematic. You don’t just get to send your kid away because he’s bei by problematic. Emily has all the makings of a great parent without the actual follow through. Everything is framed as “not her fault or responsibility” when clearly it is. This happens with Santiago’s responsibility and faults too.

It’s framed as Santiago and Emily were in love, but because of Andres their love couldn’t come to fruition.

When in reality he acts like a stand up guy generally. Even if he initially does it because he’s in love with someone who won’t reciprocate.

All the problems with Andres happen later, we can’t use those to pretend he must have always been a shitty guy.

Andres knew precisely what that relationship was; otherwise, he wouldn't have seen any reason to give her that ultimatum.

As for Emily sending her son away for five years? Fair enough.

I don't see it framed as Andres being the bad guy; it's just that all the adults in MC's life made poor decisions. The degree to which they did is debatable.

I thought him verbally lashing out at Emily in the flashback of Emily's story was a setup to the eventual physical altercation between him and MC. You establish he has a temper and then later on it hits a boiling point. Him keeping Haley as a secret from MC for a year didn't help (I don't remember his reasoning exactly). Tack on the fact he's an idiot (walking around in public with another woman for literally anyone to spot). Nyx really piled on some bad characterizations in order to balance him raising MC for those five years.

If the Erynn confession had went differently, would the MC have even moved to be with Andres? I think not.

You just said what's being argued: Nyx put those traits on Andres to manipulate us into disliking him.

Also, Emily lezzing out with Melissa out in the open, knowing that MC could return at any moment, wasn't particularly smart either. Just saying.

There's a lot of ifs that change the situation. For example, if he hadn't caught his father out in the town or if his father hadn't caught him banging one of his stepsisters, the cheating reveal probably wouldn't have happened so that the whole situation wouldn't have happened.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I can't do that. Not because it's her poor heart, but because while the MC is stupid, he's not THAT stupid. If you have two girls that you love and have to choose between them, don't break the heart of the one with a rich dad.

To be fair, while MC's dad isn't Enzo rich, he's probably still wealthy, as is his restauranteur mother, so money is the least of his problems.

 

[byaaahh]

She didn’t lose her kid for 5 years, she sent him away. Because she couldn’t or didn’t want to handle him.

She didn’t accidentally break the agreement, she saw him behind Andre’s back.

She led on a guy so he would help him raise her child, that is in no way, shape or form a ‘good’ thing. Not for the guy she’s doing it to. Had she loved him, I would’ve agreed it would be a good mutual agreement. But she never loved him, and she knew she never would. That’s is beyond shitty.

Santi didn’t just not fight hard, he barely fought at all. He also has the option to tell his parents he wants to take care of his kid and that they will have to accept that.

The only ‘bad’ thing we see Andres do up to that point is call Emily a slut for being knocked up by someone else.

When push came to shove 13 years later, Emily sends her biological son to his adoptive father because she can’t or won’t handle him. If she wasn’t willing to step up, she should have gotten an abortion.

Just so we’re clear, if you accidentally end up making a kid and decide to keep it anyway. That’s admirable in my book. It’s everything that happens afterwards that’s problematic. You don’t just get to send your kid away because he’s bei by problematic. Emily has all the makings of a great parent without the actual follow through. Everything is framed as “not her fault or responsibility” when clearly it is. This happens with Santiago’s responsibility and faults too.

It’s framed as Santiago and Emily were in love, but because of Andres their love couldn’t come to fruition.

When in reality he acts like a stand up guy generally. Even if he initially does it because he’s in love with someone who won’t reciprocate.

All the problems with Andres happen later, we can’t use those to pretend he must have always been a shitty guy.

According to you, Andres had no agency to not get together with Emily. She FORCED him to raise the child, when in actuality it was his choice to give her the ultimatum to never contact Santi and raise the kid as his.

In regards to Santi not being there or doing enough, he had left school by the time Emily gave birth and she didn't see him for 12 years. When MC asked if Santi wanted to meet him, he did but Andres' made it difficult.

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All this drama would have been avoided if Andres wasn't a megalomaniacal asshole, who insisted that he had to date Emily and that she wasn't allowed to communicate with her son's actual father.