VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.1] [Nyx]

[MiltonPowers]

yeah, that made me super sad too. Had to come back here to check if I mis-read a tag, and yep.. no 'harem' tag. Super sad now. Makes me nervous about future changes

But, what is odd, is that you are forced to choose between Cara and Nikki, but that choice makes no difference in story as you leave shortly after. If you are being "loyal" makes no difference as you start dating a number of girls a week after arriving at Mom's place.
Then, you have to choose between between Layla and Alexis (sisters), but that's not a singular choice. As choosing one will still keep open some routes with other girls, while choosing the other will close other routes with other girls. So, the scripting is not about loyalty.
Also, even after choosing between Layla or Alexis, you are still messing around with other girls, and even reliving past relationships. why? And then that past relationship comes back. And then another. Even the authors have one of the "girls" brings up the irony of multiple ex's coming back to him just recently. Odd, huh. Almost like we're being played with.
So, I choose to keep dating Alexis as she was first, but that didn't close Erynn nor stop me from flirting with other girls.

I'm still upset that the authors chose to write the MC as a dick to his girls. Last incident was when Cara came to visit him at his Mom's home. He then leaves her there shortly after she arrives to go spend time with his CURRENT girlfriend. He never really broke things off with Cara (my choice at start of story).

And, about that early choice of Cara vs Nikki.... he still chose to get in to a sexual relationship with the 2 step-sisters when he moved in with them, but then when the date of his "dad's" marriage was announced, he had to break it off with them???? Because that officiality would then make it wrong?? And then, before he left for the wedding he learned that he's not related to his "dad" and thus there would no be a "step-sister" issue once his dad marries... but still chooses to break things off. eh??? Again, kinda dickish.

He's had sex with Alexis before, but then when invited to her home to use her shower, he gets ashamed that she walks in on him while showering and makes comment that he should have locked the door. No dude would say that or think that. And not be ashamed of being nude with a girl he's had sex with and might have sex with right at that moment.

And, he gets mad at his girls not telling him their secrets, but then whole story's basis is about people not talking to each other about problems. MC then dates multiple girls without telling them.
And author's wrote the MC's girls as really falling for him and wanting him, but then has the MC pretending to only date Alexis (my choice) while at same time Erynn, while keeping the other girls at arm's length while still flirting with them.
Seems like this was written to be a harem, but then changed direction part way through.

Also, they are 18 but drinking.

I'm just after their attendance at the summer camp, so the story may change from this point on.

All of your issues are YOUR choices. It seems strange to me to be complaining about how you chose to play the game when you were not forced to.

"I'm still upset that the authors chose to write the MC as a dick to his girls."
Is only if YOU choose to be. You can play multiple paths where he is not a dick to anyone.

"MC then dates multiple girls without telling them."
Again, YOU chose to do that. I have many paths where I am only dating/fucking 1 girl and am on friendly non sexual paths with all the others.

 

[LoGyMW]

btw, now that you mentioned it ... how can we check the points level of the girl's in this game?

I use Koga mod for this, you can't check it directly in game without it.

 

[Dessolos]

yeah, that made me super sad too. Had to come back here to check if I mis-read a tag, and yep.. no 'harem' tag. Super sad now. Makes me nervous about future changes

But, what is odd, is that you are forced to choose between Cara and Nikki, but that choice makes no difference in story as you leave shortly after. If you are being "loyal" makes no difference as you start dating a number of girls a week after arriving at Mom's place.
Then, you have to choose between between Layla and Alexis (sisters), but that's not a singular choice. As choosing one will still keep open some routes with other girls, while choosing the other will close other routes with other girls. So, the scripting is not about loyalty.
Also, even after choosing between Layla or Alexis, you are still messing around with other girls, and even reliving past relationships. why? And then that past relationship comes back. And then another. Even the authors have one of the "girls" brings up the irony of multiple ex's coming back to him just recently. Odd, huh. Almost like we're being played with.
So, I choose to keep dating Alexis as she was first, but that didn't close Erynn nor stop me from flirting with other girls.

I'm still upset that the authors chose to write the MC as a dick to his girls. Last incident was when Cara came to visit him at his Mom's home. He then leaves her there shortly after she arrives to go spend time with his CURRENT girlfriend. He never really broke things off with Cara (my choice at start of story).

And, about that early choice of Cara vs Nikki.... he still chose to get in to a sexual relationship with the 2 step-sisters when he moved in with them, but then when the date of his "dad's" marriage was announced, he had to break it off with them???? Because that officiality would then make it wrong?? And then, before he left for the wedding he learned that he's not related to his "dad" and thus there would no be a "step-sister" issue once his dad marries... but still chooses to break things off. eh??? Again, kinda dickish.

He's had sex with Alexis before, but then when invited to her home to use her shower, he gets ashamed that she walks in on him while showering and makes comment that he should have locked the door. No dude would say that or think that. And not be ashamed of being nude with a girl he's had sex with and might have sex with right at that moment.

And, he gets mad at his girls not telling him their secrets, but then whole story's basis is about people not talking to each other about problems. MC then dates multiple girls without telling them.
And author's wrote the MC's girls as really falling for him and wanting him, but then has the MC pretending to only date Alexis (my choice) while at same time Erynn, while keeping the other girls at arm's length while still flirting with them.
Seems like this was written to be a harem, but then changed direction part way through.

Also, they are 18 but drinking.

I'm just after their attendance at the summer camp, so the story may change from this point on.

no idea why you quoted a post of mine from a year ago seems like a strange way to complain.

I honestly disagree with most of this. As it's your choice as the player and the MC does reflect your choices to a degree. I never had to choose between Layla or Alexis for example because it was my choice to not play both paths , the game does the force you.

As far your complaint about Cara that is entirely reflected in your choices why the MC is a "dick". When you go back for the wedding you can make choices to peruse Cara or Nikki more or keep them at a distance with your choices and then is a moment right before you leave which makes gives her them a signal that the MC wants a relationship. Because if you do not go with said choice they don't hey that impression from the MC so they don't visit him. So the MC being a dick to one of them because he has another girlfriend when they come for a visit is 100% entirely reflected on your choices as the player not because of the game.

 

[LSC82]

Now personally I find harem games to be complete trash like 99% of the time. It makes no sense and makes the girls feel like mindless sex dolls for the pleasure of the MC, rather than like real people with feelings.
You don't have to date around btw, that's what the points system about with the LI's. If your MC is fooling around and not being loyal, that's because you are choosing not to be. Not that the game is forcing you to.

I agree, a harem game, where there's no downsides to picking every girl gets boring, sure there's some fun to be had with crazy orgies... but it's too much of a silly fantasy.
The Intertwined style feels more real, more relatable and allows you to live in this world.
Your choices affect the story in meaningful ways, i love seeing how characters react to our choices, including/specially the bad ones.

 

[LoGyMW]

Ain't gonna lie. The scene with Emily and John in the latest episode gotta left a bad taste.

Like it was ok till we have a pretty mom and logical reasonable mc to not go after her but letting john tap that.....I understand that I should not have selected that option but curiosity got the better of me.

And the way she described it she is a damn tease. Nyx is evil.

To each their own i guess, for me the scene was actually pretty hot. Is MC's mom supposed to be a nun and never date anyone again? But again, it is your choice to either encourage her to date John in the first place in the earlier episode, a choice which you apparently took so why complain about it now when it actually came to fruition? Besides, you can still skip the scene if you don't want to see it. Same with when you can see Hailey and the coach Mike banging. It is a choice game and the choices matter so better to think about what you are choosing instead of just speed clicking willy-nilly and then later complaining when something didn't go to your liking.

But remember, its always wise to save at every choice so you can reload if the result is not to your liking.

 

[LSC82]

To each their own i guess, for me the scene was actually pretty hot. Is MC's mom supposed to be a nun and never date anyone again? But again, it is your choice to either encourage her to date John in the first place in the earlier episode, a choice which you apparently took so why complain about it now when it actually came to fruition? Besides, you can still skip the scene if you don't want to see it. Same with when you can see Hailey and the coach Mike banging. It is a choice game and the choices matter so better to think about what you are choosing instead of just speed clicking willy-nilly and then later complaining when something didn't go to your liking.

But remember, its always wise to save at every choice so you can reload if the result is not to your liking.

If this is the reaction to the mother character finding a date...
I wonder what will be the reaction if girls you ignored/closed the door start finding boyfriends

 

[LoGyMW]

I agree, a harem game, where there's no downsides to picking every girl gets boring, sure there's some fun to be had with crazy orgies... but it's too much of a silly fantasy.
The Intertwined style feels more real, more relatable and allows you to live in this world.
Your choices affect the story in meaningful ways, i love seeing how characters react to our choices, including/specially the bad ones.

Indeed, plus most harem centric games don't really have the need for replayability since you can pursue every girl at once. They are usually one and done for me. With games like Intertwined however, i always find myself playing multiple times and making different choices each time and i get much more hours out of them. But i guess some people just like to rush these games just to see the sex scenes and move on to the next and don't really get attached to the story much, which IMO is a shame because a bunch of these games have great stories to tell

 

[Aioto]

So, it's the player's fault when the script doesn't take certain choices in to account?

Are you complaining that when you get caught by one girlfriend with another you don't get to break up with all of them at once, is that it?

 

[drahgn42]

Best way to do that is to use https://f95zone.to/threads/intertwined-multi-mod-cheat-game-enhancements-v0-13-koga3.55726/ where you can see all of the girls points and other stuff.

Thank you. I'll check it out.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

so does cara's anal abilities move her up on anybody's list of love interests?

 

[drahgn42]

no idea why you quoted a post of mine from a year ago seems like a strange way to complain.

Only because you mentioned the harem tag after I came back looking for it. It struck a funny bone in me.

I honestly disagree with most of this. As it's your choice as the player and the MC does reflect your choices to a degree. I never had to choose between Layla or Alexis for example because it was my choice to not play both paths , the game does the force you.

Good point. This is my first play through and I had been playing it as it was a possible harem story. So that was my mindset when I wrote the post. Once I get to the end of this story, I'll play through again with different choices, knowing now that it isn't a harem-oriented game, and see how differently it plays.

As far your complaint about Cara that is entirely reflected in your choices why the MC is a "dick". When you go back for the wedding you can make choices to peruse Cara or Nikki more or keep them at a distance with your choices and then is a moment right before you leave which makes gives her them a signal that the MC wants a relationship. Because if you do not go with said choice they don't hey that impression from the MC so they don't visit him. So the MC being a dick to one of them because he has another girlfriend when they come for a visit is 100% entirely reflected on your choices as the player not because of the game.

Ok, so if you keep them at a distance from the start despite their attempts at flirting, then neither Cara or Nikki will return to MC's home later on? Interesting. I'll have to check that path out.
And I mentioned being a dick to Cara right as she comes to MC's house because for this first play through, MC received a call from Alexis shortly after she arrives, and the decision tree was to either stay and ignore Alexis, or leave and ignore Cara. To me, the choice was a dick move either way.

 

[drahgn42]

Are you complaining that when you get caught by one girlfriend with another you don't get to break up with all of them at once, is that it?

Actually, no, it was that the choice was made for me. It was a pop up dialogue that said I had to choose. Knowing now that this isn't a harem-type game, that now makes some sense.

And, part of the fun of some harem type games is the ability to have it all come to ruin from your choices. So there is still some replay ability in the "gotta win them all" types of harem games too.
I can see this game now, is giving you some choices to see what direction you'll push the MC in to (getting caught might be one of them, I don't know, haven't got that far in to the story yet), but others were made for me.

 

[Dessolos]

so does cara's anal abilities move her up on anybody's list of love interests?

sadly no I do think it made her a better character but everyone else is still better. expect for Tori of course

 

[jadepaladin]

so does cara's anal abilities move her up on anybody's list of love interests?

Not for me, I always find it weird when they give a girl a trait to define them. "This LI isn't so popular so let's have her squirt in the next update and that'll be her thing."
Cara's wholesome but bland. I like anal but I'm not about to drop any other LI over it.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

it is kinda disappointing that the girl with an ass for anal isn't even remotely in line to bang much less give anal. :s

 

[DIKs_Steeler]

Just caught up with my main route, and those last few updates are really good. Alot of progress for a couple of storyline. At this point (well, since the beginning, since it's the whole goal to the game), it's pretty clear that each character will have a connexion with at least someone else during the game. With Brooke being Zane sister (I guess I was behind, it was probably 1 or 2 updates ago?), there's still a lot of remaining named characters that need to be paired:

Ethan, Valeria, Elena, Tori, Darryl, the teacher that the girls find attractive, the other dude that work for Emily, the henchman with Ethan that has a name (only one of them has one IIRC), Sienna and her boyfriend, the man who gave you the modeling gig (probably Ethan's dad? It would be dumb if Erynn didn't say anything but you never know), Dylan, the new barmaid... I'm probably missing some?

Also, I know it's a game you kinda need to turn your brain off because some moments are willingly stupid just for the sake of not revealing a twist right away (and I really don't mind it), but

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[TonyMurray]

so does cara's anal abilities move her up on anybody's list of love interests?

Nope. I was formulating a response to this in my head, but as I continued scrolling, the words just jumped out at me. jadepaladin got it spot on for me here:

Cara's wholesome but bland.

She is nice, but just doesn't have anything special going for her (and anal doesn't suddenly give her anything special). I also find it slightly weird how different she and Nikki look. For me, Nikki definitely won that lottery. I would never look at the two of them and think they were sisters. Then you have (presumably) Erynn and Iris, with different fathers who almost look like they could be twins...

Back to Cara though, for me, she is getting better, although she's still easily at the bottom of the list. The anal has nothing to do with the getting better though, maybe it's just getting to know her a bit more (and the changed hairstyle). She still just feels a bit too young though, which the looks don't help with. Of all the LIs in the game, Cara is the only one who I feel comes across as potentially underage, as opposed to some of them being young but not given me the underage concern in the slightest. If you told me Cara was 16, I wouldn't question you at all.

 

[cooldevo]

Actually, no, it was that the choice was made for me. It was a pop up dialogue that said I had to choose. Knowing now that this isn't a harem-type game, that now makes some sense.

A lot of the relationships trigger based on the number of points in the LIs path and most have some have *critical* moments that you'll want to do. If you don't want to enter a specific relationship, don't excessively flirt or choose more romantic choices, such as kissing. It's pretty easy, just balance flirtier options with neutral options. That'll let you selectively choose/avoid relationships.... if you want some assistance try the Walkthrough PDF, or if you are comfortable with the risks of modding Scrappy's mod on the OP that has built-in guides for choices.

And yes, some combinations of relationships already have some pretty heated/fiery moments.

 

[Dessolos]

Not for me, I always find it weird when they give a girl a trait to define them. "This LI isn't so popular so let's have her squirt in the next update and that'll be her thing."
Cara's wholesome but bland. I like anal but I'm not about to drop any other LI over it.

Nope. I was formulating a response to this in my head, but as I continued scrolling, the words just jumped out at me. jadepaladin got it spot on for me here:

She is nice, but just doesn't have anything special going for her (and anal doesn't suddenly give her anything special). I also find it slightly weird how different she and Nikki look. For me, Nikki definitely won that lottery. I would never look at the two of them and think they were sisters. Then you have (presumably) Erynn and Iris, with different fathers who almost look like they could be twins...

Back to Cara though, for me, she is getting better, although she's still easily at the bottom of the list. The anal has nothing to do with the getting better though, maybe it's just getting to know her a bit more (and the changed hairstyle). She still just feels a bit too young though, which the looks don't help with. Of all the LIs in the game, Cara is the only one who I feel comes across as potentially underage, as opposed to some of them being young but not given me the underage concern in the slightest. If you told me Cara was 16, I wouldn't question you at all.

I will say I did not expect to like Cara more from her anal scene I don't even know why I do. Cause it really isn't about the sex last thing I care about. Maybe because while she is rather boring character that doesn't have much going for her beyond being sweet and cute. The scene felt like she is stepping out of that shell and could start to act in a way that isn't boring and safe all the time . Not sure can't quite put my finger onto the why. But either way It did make me like her more but not enough to go up in ranks.

 

[LSC82]

Indeed, plus most harem centric games don't really have the need for replayability since you can pursue every girl at once. They are usually one and done for me. With games like Intertwined however, i always find myself playing multiple times and making different choices each time and i get much more hours out of them. But i guess some people just like to rush these games just to see the sex scenes and move on to the next and don't really get attached to the story much, which IMO is a shame because a bunch of these games have great stories to tell

Yeah harem games are tailored for you to get everything in one go, and often the choices you get are only to skip certain scenes or certain girls, with no greater impact on the narrative, the opposite to this one.
Here i find myself replaying even for small dialogue differences, seeing how each character reacts to certain situations.
Small nuances are really well made here, i can go through many times probing for these small differences.

It's great to see how a girl reacts once she sees/know you are dating one of their close friends/family... it drastically affects their attitude, even if they are still enamored.
It feels real.

Just caught up with my main route, and those last few updates are really good. Alot of progress for a couple of storyline. At this point (well, since the beginning, since it's the whole goal to the game), it's pretty clear that each character will have a connexion with at least someone else during the game. With Brooke being Zane sister (I guess I was behind, it was probably 1 or 2 updates ago?), there's still a lot of remaining named characters that need to be paired:

Ethan, Valeria, Elena, Tori, Darryl, the teacher that the girls find attractive, the other dude that work for Emily, the henchman with Ethan that has a name (only one of them has one IIRC), Sienna and her boyfriend, the man who gave you the modeling gig (probably Ethan's dad? It would be dumb if Erynn didn't say anything but you never know), Dylan, the new barmaid... I'm probably missing some?

Also, I know it's a game you kinda need to turn your brain off because some moments are willingly stupid just for the sake of not revealing a twist right away (and I really don't mind it), but

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Emily, John, Erynn... don't know that they live in the Intertwined universe where there are no such things as coincidences .

The teacher, Mr Donovan, is 99% Zane himself, so Erynn's ex and Brooke's brother.
He's also surf buddies with the bartender from Dylan's bar, that also works as a mechanic with John.

My favorite for Val's mom is still Ximena Vergara the famous actress, who is also good friends with Gabi the teacher(who used to be married to the MCs biological father), and is a client of Melissa.
Ximena also knows the step father of the MC, Andres, for yet unexplained reasons...
No idea on who her dad is, other than he likes to surf... friends with Zane and Mechabartender, maybe?

Other characters like Tori, Darryl, Sienna might be too small to bother connecting with anyone in ways that matter...
I have a theory that Tori used to be friends with Elena until a certain age(she knows her real name, Victoria), but that's it.

No idea if Ethan will get more connected to anyone, but i can see him being something like a cousin to the MC or at least his dad being friends with the Monroe family, this is all speculation however.