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Me and Ethan.You think too much on this, you know that, right?
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Has it ever been confirmed where Erynn and Zane had sex?
My logical explanation would be that Erynn told Ethan that she was planning on losing her virginity on prom night and asked Ethan to help find somewhere for it to happen, so Ethan set up a hotel room thinking it was him she was planning on going to prom with. When Erynn then told him that she was going with Zane and that she was going to lose her virginity to him then Ethan decided to install the camera in the room as revenge for being rejected. Erynn does tell us that up until she took Zane to prom rather than Ethan that Ethan was playing the nice guy and good friend so it's not out of the question that she would have confided in Ethan about her plans and not realise he might think she was talking about losing her virginity to him.
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I don't think Erynn told Ethan anything, A female friend or not wouldn't tell a guy that. I can see Ethan talking to Zane and telling Zane he had a hotel room but he was going to cancel it cause what he had originally had plans that didn't fall through and offered Zane the room saying Erynn's a classy girl so if by chance you get lucky you can have the room. The chances of a guy/guy sexual conversation is higher than a guy/girl sexual conversation especially about losing her virginity.
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I was friends with girls when I was in my teens with no romantic intent from either side and I had conversations like that with them, I knew beforehand when 3 or 4 girls were planning on losing their virginity before they actually did. Difference between me and Ethan is that I was actually a nice guy (plus I was in a relationship with the same girl for the whole of high school and college, so I honestly wasn't looking at the girls who were my friends as anything more than friends), and yes they did ask my advice on where to do it and if I had Ethan's resources I probably would have set something up for them.
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It happened before the prom night, hence she went to prom with Ethan. At the time, Ethan and Erynn was not friends nor talking with each other, no communication whatsoever according to Erynn. As far as I know, we don't know where it happened.
Timeline goes like this,
- MC leaves.
- Ethan became nice and be close friend of Erynn.
- Ethan asked Erynn out. Erynn liked him(probably best male friend) but not romantically. So she refused.
- Ethan became toxic self again.
- Ethan drove all of Erynn's friends away, except Alexis.
- Ethan told Erynn, Alexis had sex with him and tried to make a wedge between Alexis and Erynn.
- Erynn broke friendship with Ethan but her relationship with Alexis was shaken too.
- Erynn was no longer friends with Ethan, nor talking with him.
- Erynn met Zane. Started to date him.
- Erynn started to modelling.
- Erynn lost her virginity and Ethan has the recording of it somehow.
- Ethan blackmailed Erynn to go to prom with him.
- Zane simply vanished off Erynn's life because she went to prom with Ethan.
- Ethan tried to force Erynn to have sex with him. Erynn refused the blackmail.
- Ethan became the handler of Erynn at the modelling agency.
- Ethan decided to wear off Erynn by forcing her to become an escort.
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Hmm, finished with a second playthrough and am starting to like this game more and more.
After going through with the walkthrough pdf, am i understanding correctly that the whole crew of characters is kinda divided in 3 independant groups? Seems like its the 2 sisters from the beginning, Layla & her friends and Erynn/Alexis and her group, with minimal interactions between the groups.
Game seems also very harsh in not letting you drop other relationships when you decide to be exclusive with a girl and still kinda force you into date/kissing to have you go through scripted drama of the other girl finding out.
This time, i planned and went on a full Nikki save, and i have to say, i like it, but found it very dissapointing. It seems to me that Nikki and Cara are almost side characters. They do not have a lot of interactions and what they have is condenssed into very few updates then are forgotten again. I can see them very easy to let go to pursue girls the game focuses more on. Whats the easiest non douche way to break up with any of the 2 in most saves so you can move on to the "main" game? Can you have them only has friends, not show up at your house but still break the wedding? Or is it mandatory to break up?
I ended up (as the game kinda was forcing me into a Layla path again, even though i was purposedly gaining about only half the points with her to make her just friends, but i guess the breakpoint must be low because i kept getting all the date scenes, so i decided to try full Elena. Best decision ever. She really grew on me a lot with her scenes. How she also fall for you slowly, then each time Layla do something with you she gets very sad but let happoen because she dont want to loose her friend. Once again, when i got the hints and the game told me i was falling for her, why couldnt i cancel or chat Layla then, but instead was forced into more kissing and dates with my character seeming to not care? I can only assume the game script is for you to be with her, a Layla break up has to happen to have the drama since its the story's main script for her.
I guess now i'll do next a play from the "other" side to try the other girls' stories. Who is the most tolerant girl with side content? Alexis or Erynn? Can i do Alexis, still be friends with Erynn and go for the unlocks, for example Iris and Gabi?
If not, whats the best non-commiting girl/path if i would like to mostly unlock side girls gallery, like, eww Tori, Gabi, Valeria and still be "only friends" with the main crew? As it seems you "have" to go after at least a main girl to go through story.
As of now, heres how my tierlist of girls changed after my 2nd play. Nikki (i like her overall), Brooke (i find her charming, and ill try and hook her up with the mom) and especially Elena (personallity, good progression into liking you, the whole family side you help her with) got higher in my tierlist, and Cara (dont like the model), Valeria (kinda lost interest and every npc seems to be after her) , Melissa (lost interest) and Layla (too childish and kinda slow for her age, no way shes 18) got lower.
Also, now i see why its called intertwined. Seems like no npc gets wasted in this game. Everyone is related to someone in the end. At this point, im almost expecting that Ethan's dad gonna be some dude we already met a bunch of times and are friendly with (the guy at the modeling agecny of the photograph??) that will end the escort agency (that he will mostl likely not be aware of) as he will view it as bad rep for his company.
Lastly, reading the last pages, will the update only be Erynn scenes and Valeria content? Is this how it work for this game? Each update concentrate on a "side"? Hope not, i would be dissapointed.
After going through with the walkthrough pdf, am i understanding correctly that the whole crew of characters is kinda divided in 3 independant groups? Seems like its the 2 sisters from the beginning, Layla & her friends and Erynn/Alexis and her group, with minimal interactions between the groups.
Game seems also very harsh in not letting you drop other relationships when you decide to be exclusive with a girl and still kinda force you into date/kissing to have you go through scripted drama of the other girl finding out.
This time, i planned and went on a full Nikki save, and i have to say, i like it, but found it very dissapointing. It seems to me that Nikki and Cara are almost side characters. They do not have a lot of interactions and what they have is condenssed into very few updates then are forgotten again. I can see them very easy to let go to pursue girls the game focuses more on. Whats the easiest non douche way to break up with any of the 2 in most saves so you can move on to the "main" game? Can you have them only has friends, not show up at your house but still break the wedding? Or is it mandatory to break up?
I ended up (as the game kinda was forcing me into a Layla path again, even though i was purposedly gaining about only half the points with her to make her just friends, but i guess the breakpoint must be low because i kept getting all the date scenes, so i decided to try full Elena. Best decision ever. She really grew on me a lot with her scenes. How she also fall for you slowly, then each time Layla do something with you she gets very sad but let happoen because she dont want to loose her friend. Once again, when i got the hints and the game told me i was falling for her, why couldnt i cancel or chat Layla then, but instead was forced into more kissing and dates with my character seeming to not care? I can only assume the game script is for you to be with her, a Layla break up has to happen to have the drama since its the story's main script for her.
I guess now i'll do next a play from the "other" side to try the other girls' stories. Who is the most tolerant girl with side content? Alexis or Erynn? Can i do Alexis, still be friends with Erynn and go for the unlocks, for example Iris and Gabi?
If not, whats the best non-commiting girl/path if i would like to mostly unlock side girls gallery, like, eww Tori, Gabi, Valeria and still be "only friends" with the main crew? As it seems you "have" to go after at least a main girl to go through story.
As of now, heres how my tierlist of girls changed after my 2nd play. Nikki (i like her overall), Brooke (i find her charming, and ill try and hook her up with the mom) and especially Elena (personallity, good progression into liking you, the whole family side you help her with) got higher in my tierlist, and Cara (dont like the model), Valeria (kinda lost interest and every npc seems to be after her) , Melissa (lost interest) and Layla (too childish and kinda slow for her age, no way shes 18) got lower.
Also, now i see why its called intertwined. Seems like no npc gets wasted in this game. Everyone is related to someone in the end. At this point, im almost expecting that Ethan's dad gonna be some dude we already met a bunch of times and are friendly with (the guy at the modeling agecny of the photograph??) that will end the escort agency (that he will mostl likely not be aware of) as he will view it as bad rep for his company.
Lastly, reading the last pages, will the update only be Erynn scenes and Valeria content? Is this how it work for this game? Each update concentrate on a "side"? Hope not, i would be dissapointed.
There is a reason for that, atleast for nikki since she was originally going to die and not be an LI but that was eventually changed due to popularity, cara on the other hand i have no clue about.
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I think maybe if it's a smaller update then perhaps that is how updates work haven't been around long enough only 2 updates. last one was an Erynn update and the before was 1/2 Erynn and a mix of the girls at home. This next update isn't only going to be Erynn it's going to cover 3 or 4 days. Day 1 beach scenes if you are on Erynn or Val path other dunno. Day 2 gonna be in Riverside so you can see Cara and Nikki again. The rest no idea.
As far as Compatibility with Erynn and Alexis. Well they are and aren't compatible, they are both a bit clingy and jealous especially of one another. However you can technically play both of their paths if you pick the correct choices ( for now) but I think you do miss out on some Erynn exclusive content in episode 12 if you do that. But yeah you can be on the Alexis path and be friends with Erynn. it's only when you are on the Erynn only path Alexis kind of disappears from the story until she is needed.
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But Erynn went to prom with Ethan, so the sex with Zane must have happened before prom night.
The game does split into groups and being with a girl affects how that group interacts with you, the girls from the opposite group don't even notice there's anything wrong(most of the time).
The easiest non-douchy way to break up with Nikki-Cara is to not call them after the marriage break up i think, i do that and they don't show up later.
The douchy way is fucking the little blonde girl(Julia) in the early chapters, eventually she spills, the girls aren't happy lol.
They do have this tendency of coming and going, they get a chapter that is all about them but are gone from the next 2/3.
Next chapter should feature them.
It's tough to say which main girl locks most content, Alexis blocks you from Layla(and consequently Elena) and you only get "half-scenes" with Erynn(not necessarily a friends path, you can have her jealous much like Elena towards Layla), it opens more Iris interactions and you have Val as an option(she wants you to dump Alexis however, rare instance of groups crossing over), Gabi is open.
Being on Layla, you lose Alexis and Val... opens Elena, the full Erynn scenes and a lot less stuff with Iris, you can have Gabi but you lose Elena due to not showing up for her event.
If you go for neither Alexis/Layla and have Erynn as your main, Gabi and Val(likely to conflict pretty soon) are your options.
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Your grouping of the girls is correct so far, but you are still missing some information. The girls are divided into two groups.
1. MC with LI (Main Character with Love Interest)
2. SC (Side Character)
The first group currently includes: Erynn, Alexis, Nikki, Cara, Layla, Elena and hard to believe: Melissa
My recommendation is that you create a save for each LI mentioned above. The important thing is to more or less ignore all the other girls and just concentrate on one! It is then called a single route.
Note: The end of the game with the LI is very likely!
Of course, you can create additional saves for other girls. I still have a Gaby save myself. Melissa is always there on all routes.
Note: The end of the game with these girls is not guaranteed!
For me, the single routes are used for parameterization to determine which content the respective LI has in an update. Because then the real fun begins: the Versus routes.
Important note in advance: None of the versus routes will see the end of the game!!!
I divide them into four groups, although I only want to explain two to you in more detail; you will find out the others yourself once you understand how the game mechanics work.
1. Versus routes with interaction
At the top of my hit list is the ASP (Alexis secret path). It's the only way to play Alexis vs Layla here. Unfortunately, this route has had very little content to date and we don't know if and how it will develop further.
Now we come to Erynn vs Alexis. It should be said here that Alexis acts as a blocker, i.e. you don't get into the "interesting" scenes with Erynn. The appeal of this route lies in the fact that Erynn and Alexis are best friends.
Finally, Erynn vs Nikki should be mentioned. The fact that Erynn doesn't like Nikki and sees her as a threat is what makes this route so explosive. Since you're already fucking Nikki, the scenes with Erynn take on a completely different meaning. Nikki's name also appears in some dialogue.
2. Versus routes without interaction
In all other constellations, you are actually on two parallel single routes, without mentioning the other girl. However, it should be said here that some constellations end very early.
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nice wishful thought, but unfortunately it won't be the case. It will end the same way as Julia did; she'll soberly dump the MC.Nikki would break poor Erynn in half.
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Because they live in different cities, perhaps, no? 6 hours flight and so on. I can't say that there are much less content with them comparing to other LIs. First - large flashback where you setup your relationship with them. With the opts:
1. Staying cold with them and ending this story short;
2. Romancing both of them, forcing MC to choice between them at the end;
3. Romancing only one of them with auto choice at the end.
Next opportunity (if 2 or 3) - MCs visit to Andres and Haley wedding, where you still working on MC relationship with one of them and you can end it here if you want.
Then, if you managed to catch Cara or Nikki interest and make them love your MC, unexpected visit after training camp and again a lot of options and outcomes. You can immediately end things or you can let the girl stay for a couple of days. If you pursue other girl(s) then it's a potential future drama in one or another way. Depending of how you setting up this visit you'll get the 2 possible outcomes:
1. Break up at the airport, but this way girls had met their dad (Mike) and fixed things with him (probably the most preferable option, imo, in any case);
2. Established love path.
The next time they have a chance to meet is the next update and MCs visit to Nathan's place if MC continued this relationship.
Technically MC is only cheating on Alexis if he allows one of girls to stay AND sleeping with them. Because things with Layla is not on a "dating" base after the training camp. And MC is also not dating with Erynn, they are just started to going to something more than friends. So, probably the scheduled MCs visit will have a chance to break up with Cara or Nikki again or continue to cheat (this time including Layla, Erynn and Val).
You're not forced if you're not trying to mess with more than one girl by yourself. Regarding Layla. If you payed attention at the first class (geography) AND stayed with Erynn after night club (no piggyride and train scene with Layla & Elena) - then you will never keep up with her love path w/o using cheats or increasing the points. You will be able to go to the beach with them, but you will always be lack of 2-4 or more points to keep up. She will not show MC her boobs, and after that you're out of her path, since any attempt after to flirt or "check her out" will result in losing points with her rather than gaining them. She will finally get the "friends" var at the training camp, but things are fucked up much earlier than that.
It was explained well, why. She got almost no friends because of her mom being principal. And got annoyed with dumbass Lucas, who had took a joke and harmless flirt far too seriously. MC is not that far away from her, tbh. He was lucky that he met Iris a couple of years ago. Otherwise MC would be a male version of Layla at the beginning of the game. MC inner thoughts about Layla and her behaviours hints that he likes it a lot. Like "please, Layla, never change". And it's understandable, her playfulness, a bit childish behaviour and curiosity in new things to her are treasure. People grow up anyway, but do you need to seem or be really more mature than you are at 18?
Yup and they have mentioned her thinking about moving to where the mc lives multiple times now, hopefully thats the case as i really want to see her interact with other characters.
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Yeah, it's the only chance to continue this part of story in a plausible way. 'Cause taking a flight to Riverside every 1-2 weeks for weekends is a bit over the top. And, perhaps, this will be solved in one or another way during MCs weekend trip in the next episode. I won't buy, personally, another unexpected visit like the one after the training camp if Cara/Nikki really decide to move to MC's city, but w/o making sure in everything in advance and talking out things with MC. On the other hand, it ruining the cheating possibilities and future potential drama(s). But I don't think MC is SUCH a jerk that he would talk in Cara or Nikki to move to his city while dating with Alexis, Layla, Erynn or Val. Let's see how it will be handled.
I like the dynamics between different girls and how for example Erynn likes the Cara but don't like the Nikki. Then how Iris & Cara or Val & Nikki accidentally met. And Layla seen both of them (technically one, but she always meet one or another at school). Knowing that all of them interacting in some way and/or friends makes things so interesting and exciting
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Regardless of where they live, i would have liked a phone call, or a text, some small interaction, to remind you that they exist. Yes, based on your list, they do have 3 big interactions, i never denied that, what i was stating is that with only 3 interactions segments in a 12 chapters game, it feels very far and few while most girls have somethng every chapter.
Thanks, that's what i needed. I think my mistake was going with them after the bar instead of Erynn. I'm only mildly interrested in Erynn, but if thats a big breakpoint, that's the way i'll go in the future. I though picking enough points with her to be friends instead of no interactions, loosing a few points on purpose by checking them all while not picking more than half the possible ones would be enough, but i will try the more starved points at the beginning since i know now friends requirements with her is pretty low.
That can be one way of seeing it. Yes, i am indeed much (much) older now, be with my experiences, it felt for me like she is acting more like 14-16, even including the MC if you believe he's similar. I understand also that they HAVE to all be 18 for Patreon. One thing also that feels funny to me, as a non-American (Canada) is: can you be 18 and in highschool wihtout being a repeater? I always thought of high school as the kids school, while college for the 18+. Different systems i guess, so my perception is different.
Yes, i know about that, i just meant grouping in game, as story scenario blocks. Almost like 2 parralel stories with rare interaction between certain girls. I also thought i read many pages back that only Nikki, Cara, Erynn, Layla and Alexis were main LI's. (as in, dedicated endings)
Since i don't want a save per girl (which may happen over time anyways), my personal wishlist endings i'd like would be Elena, Nikki, getting back with Iris and most likely way in the future, a full Erynn where you see her through her issues, which is what i think the game cannon, if any, would imply goign with characters background stories.
I think my next try will be an Alexis one trying to make Erynn jealous, to try those vs inteactions you mentionned. Just wish the game had a "phone" or menu where you could see your points and your status with the girls.
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This came is so interesting. I have to stop and let the game be updated a few more times so I don't get bored with seeing the same thing over and over to get to the updated each time. Definitely a good game.
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INTERTWINED RELATIONSHIP AND CATEGORY TIER LIST
Inspired by my discussions with LSC82 about his Intertwined "circles of relationships" and minibaer12's posts, I DRAFTED an Intertwined relationship and category tier for newbies to the game and players who have a hard time keeping track of how everyone is "intertwined" in this game. "Who's connected to who? Who's related to who?"
This might also be useful to returning players of the game who haven't played for a very long time.
NOTES:
1. SPOILER ALERT: Knowing who's related and connected to who beforehand will definitely ruin a lot of the game's experience. You should have played multiple Intertwined paths before checking it out. Or if you don't like surprises, you can just take a peek.
2. It's a draft so it's definitely open for criticisms, suggestions and revisions.
3. I need someone to do graphics for other characters like Sienna, Brooke, Julia, Sha'Carri, Gina, Jasmine, Naomi, and even the men Ethan, Zach, Nathan, John, Zane, Santi, Madison Springs Old Perv, Andres, Miguel, etc. so I can add them to the tier list.
The uncensored tier list can be found in the spoiler section below.
Inspired by my discussions with LSC82 about his Intertwined "circles of relationships" and minibaer12's posts, I DRAFTED an Intertwined relationship and category tier for newbies to the game and players who have a hard time keeping track of how everyone is "intertwined" in this game. "Who's connected to who? Who's related to who?"
This might also be useful to returning players of the game who haven't played for a very long time.
NOTES:
1. SPOILER ALERT: Knowing who's related and connected to who beforehand will definitely ruin a lot of the game's experience. You should have played multiple Intertwined paths before checking it out. Or if you don't like surprises, you can just take a peek.
2. It's a draft so it's definitely open for criticisms, suggestions and revisions.
3. I need someone to do graphics for other characters like Sienna, Brooke, Julia, Sha'Carri, Gina, Jasmine, Naomi, and even the men Ethan, Zach, Nathan, John, Zane, Santi, Madison Springs Old Perv, Andres, Miguel, etc. so I can add them to the tier list.
The uncensored tier list can be found in the spoiler section below.
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