dolfe67

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it was biker bro who came to help instead of val
Not a fan on this choice design. If you only play once you won't notice it. But it doesn't make sense that if you have good relationship with Val, it's her who happens to pass by and not biker bro. Where is he in this instance? It's like a whole alternate universe and not a different choice made by MC
 

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Not a fan on this choice design. If you only play once you won't notice it. But it doesn't make sense that if you have good relationship with Val, it's her who happens to pass by and not biker bro. Where is he in this instance? It's like a whole alternate universe and not a different choice made by MC
Butterfly effect.
 
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Not a fan on this choice design. If you only play once you won't notice it. But it doesn't make sense that if you have good relationship with Val, it's her who happens to pass by and not biker bro. Where is he in this instance? It's like a whole alternate universe and not a different choice made by MC
Cannot speak for others path's/run's on this title.
Had Erynn only (no other LI) from waaaay back.
Stuck to it with intent to see how the story plaid out.

Often do that with testing, pick one LI to the end.
Particular when i'm testing a title for myself (no request from others).
I got John on with mine.
 

LSC82

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That's selective butterfly effect. You make a lot of choices but only the ones related to Valeria can change that event, which is happening in the same place in both cases
I think most of the time this game makes good use of the butterfly effect, but this is one of the weirder ones.

John has a different schedule for no discernible reason and Valeria... was she stalking us? Because even before things went south she wasn't invited to that particular event... if we a have a "bad" relationship(which isn't actually bad/spiteful, just no interest) she takes a look and thinks "not getting involved in that"?

So i do think it's one of the worst butterflies yet, imo.
Usually there's a good logical reason, train with Layla>win the race.
Go with Nikki for a run... find Valeria also running, makes sense, that's a habit of her.
Go with Cara to the park... see Iris there, also an old habit of her.

Plus the scene just makes a bit more sense with John, since he ends up involved in that plot anyway(and the fight is about his "daughter").
 

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I think most of the time this game makes good use of the butterfly effect, but this is one of the weirder ones.

John has a different schedule for no discernible reason and Valeria... was she stalking us? Because even before things went south she wasn't invited to that particular event... if we a have a "bad" relationship(which isn't actually bad/spiteful, just no interest) she takes a look and thinks "not getting involved in that"?

So i do think it's one of the worst butterflies yet, imo.
Usually there's a good logical reason, train with Layla>win the race.
Go with Nikki for a run... find Valeria also running, makes sense, that's a habit of her.
Go with Cara to the park... see Iris there, also an old habit of her.

Plus the scene just makes a bit more sense with John, since he ends up involved in that plot anyway(and the fight is about his "daughter").

I remember puma78 complaining about this some years ago. Much as I like Val, I agree that she's more forced into this scene than John. John is also forced, but it makes more sense given his connection with Erynn.


I think most of the time this game makes good use of the butterfly effect
Oh definitely. The game makes good use of Val's butterfly and her butterfly effects.


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LSC82

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I remember puma78 complaining about this some years ago. Much as I like Val, I agree that she's more forced into this scene than John. John is also forced, but it makes more sense given his connection with Erynn.
Both cases are coincidences... They weren't invited, had no explicit reason to be there(John just decided to go for a ride is his bike? And Valeria was waiting for her mom?), but happened to be strolling by...
Now, i can excuse a coincidence... It just doesn't make much logical sense that which scene triggers depends on wether Valeria is interested or not.

This scene has a third variation, if you didn't help Erynn earlier, Ethan just mocks you and moves on without fight... now that variation is a logical conclusion from your earlier actions.


Oh definitely. The game makes good use of Val's butterfly and her butterfly effects.


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She doesn't like it, but that ass deserves a smack lol.
Fingers crossed that we actually get to view(with no clothes) and sample the goods this time.
 
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