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I dunno, Zach is no Ethan. Ethan is just a horrible person, Zach is just stupid, immature, and impulsive. Zach is redeemable, ethan is not.
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Zach is still helping Ethan and as of now part of his shady business unknowingly unfortunately, he thinks with his dick believing all Ethan's lies like a complete idiot thinking Ethan will get him all the women he needs and that MC was always in his way, Unless Zach helps MC with the proof, exposing Ethan, he might have chance of some redemption, I feel like that will only trigger if Ethan hurts Valeria for kicking Ethan in the balls
The photoshoot can potentially throw every LI for spin... but i agree Alexis would be hit the hardest, the insecurity multiplies due to her knowing the history these 2 have together.
And if the photoshoot gets launched while Erynn is already doing internship at the school, even better lol.
I agree that isn't Zach outright evil(yet), but i don't know if i would say "redeemable".
He showed himself to be pretty awful friend, full of envy...
And he's signing his soul to the darkside siding with Ethan...
It's tough to grasp how much he knows... But to some degree he must understand that Ethan just uses women as toys and what he just told Ethan about John can get people hurt.
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I think he's redeemable simply for the fact that he ism't knowingly hurting anyone, he's just blinded by self pity and lust. As far as knowing about ethans treatment of women, it's hard to say what he knows as we've only seen them interact twice, we don't know how ethan acts around him. In relation to john, all he knows is that ethan was curious about they guy, the assumption is that he's completely oblivious as to why.
That's where it's unusual, and often feels like two steps forward, then two steps back.
She has no issues kissing him in public, or in either of their rooms, bathrooms, or his kitchen. She just doesn't like anytime you can choose "continue". They get noticed in a small make out session by Emily and she immediately calls Melissa (I'm 99% sure as Nyx doesn't say). Yeah it's not in public as well as Erynn-Emily have a very different dynamic than Erynn-Melissa(Mom).
She keeps saying she "needs more time", but it is really because of the Ethan blackmail? Is she scared something might happen that turns another intimate moment into a trauma? Entirely plausible. I'm leaning towards it not being the sole or only reason. The reason I'm leaning towards is the one she actually says. When she comments on MC's room being so empty, she says she's scared he'll leave again. I think this is why she's being more guarded. Why open oneself up to being hurt a second time by the same person. It's become pretty clear that Erynn was near distraught/devestated when the MC started ignoring her, left town, and never talked to her again. Maybe she's worried the same thing might happen again?
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Oh was it Zach? Damn i must have misread that then. I honestly thought it was Zane lol. That puts things into a different perspective then
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Hey guys and gals - I have been getting a lot of missing images in 13 this time around like this
There are a lot of these in this path and other paths - I used Scrappy's mod and without and it and the errors - Any help would be appreciated because I would hate to have to redo all the paths I have again - Thank you
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/episode_13.rpy", line 322, in script
if Alexis_Dated == True:
File "game/episode_13.rpy", line 322, in <module>
if Alexis_Dated == True:
NameError: name 'Alexis_Dated' is not defined
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/episode_13.rpy", line 322, in script
if Alexis_Dated == True:
File "C:\Users\rlduc\Downloads\Mega\Intertwined-0.13-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 2133, in execute
if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
File "C:\Users\rlduc\Downloads\Mega\Intertwined-0.13-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
File "C:\Users\rlduc\Downloads\Mega\Intertwined-0.13-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/episode_13.rpy", line 322, in <module>
if Alexis_Dated == True:
NameError: name 'Alexis_Dated' is not defined
Windows-10-10.0.22000 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.0.23051307
Intertwined 0.13
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All three parents, Andres, Emily, and Santi deserve parent of the year awards. All three should get non stop diarrhea. The type of diarrhea that runs down the leg.
I agree, it's getting to a weird territory... she no longer feels any shyness about showing her body and being together naked... and it's not even the dude pushing for more and Erynn hitting the brakes. She's the one that invites him into the bathroom and into the bathtub... both times she's the one that innitiated bathroom activities.
But if things go to more than that... somehow that's a problem.
And she's afraid to say the word boyfriend...
Those are things my male brain can't grasp, someone who is willing to drive 80% of the road... but not 100%
But Nyx is a woman and sometimes women have weird hang ups i don't get...
She clearly developed some abandoment issues that makes her afraid to going too far, she's afraid the MC is gonna leave and she's gonna be alone again...
I think this is why for the longest time she stuck by "we are friends", she was afraid that changing the relationship might lead to some unforeseen problems and create distance between them.
But there's 2 problems with that:
It's too late for "we are just friends" now, it's time to move, everyone can see that...
She's stuck in this place for too damn long, this sucks and it's not good romance either... we wanna see people who face their fears for love, not someone who cowers.
I do wonder if Nyx is waiting for some big event to finally make her go after what she wants? To commit to a relationship?
Ethan going down? Finding her family? Coming to terms with the Zane break up? Something still related to the MC leaving?
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I could see this happening and i hope it does and that Ethan didn't do something to her. This would be a much better outcome but it still doesn't rule out Ethan helping Zach in the future with Val in some way, or at least trying to and possibly interfering in MC's and Val's relationship in some way out of spite if MC is on Val's romance path
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He's asking Ethan to turn Val into a sex slave for him. The only reason he isn't as evil as Ethan is because he doesnt have enough money or power to do so.
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it shouldn't have errors like that though, I had none of those when playing the initial release
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That's quite the leap, I beleive he said something to the affect of "you need to help me with this girl" not "i need you to turn val into a whore" i'll look up the scene in while but i'm pretty sure there was no mention of servitude.
Well, this is more like a "degree of treason" discussion then. To explain, there is a historian, I've long forgotten the name, that argued that treason/collaboration is not clear cut, there's 7 degrees or stages of it; from mere cooperation with the enemy for the sake of lowering civilian losses to outright enthusiastic support and collaboration. It's an important topic in my country because we had many traitors during ww2, who even swore allegiance to Hitler and formed auxiliary punishment units acting under German command.
Anyway, it's clear that what Val and MC did was sexual, nobody can argue that. Yes, they didn't have sex, but they did pretty much everything else, with deliberate sexual intent (remember that MC asked Val whether he can squeeze and fondle her breasts and she consented). in many countries they would've suffered punishment if put in front of court for what they've already done if they were siblings.
In the end, Patreon is pretty strict when it comes to rules and IIRC has banned creators for less. And you can always find people vicious enough to report other people for stupid shit just out of spite.
Agreed. Fully agreed.
I guess the original poster debranched the concept of relationship down to barebones of mere "being in relationship" without everything that actually entails: love, romance, dating, spiritual connection, commitment, companionship, spending time together, having things in common, friendship, loyalty, fidelity, trust, unconditional SUPPORT, forsake-all-others, identifying a fitting mate to have children with, raising a family, sharing compatible values and world-views, helping each other grow, literally helping each other through sicknesses and injuries and so on.
Relationship is far from just two people fucking each other.
Many people underestimate the elements of connection that you pointed out. Yes, they're incredibly compatible sexually, but like you said they also have the joking, spending time, good-natured teasing (stepbrother) and pranking, music (hell, Lexi TOOK UP GUITAR because of MC!!!), MC's love for Lexi's singing (she does way too little of it)...
In so many ways they are each other's equals and complements, like pieces of the same puzzle to be corny.
And, hell, just looking at how MC has become part of her family is amazing, he's fully accepted in his role and appreciated to the point her mother even jokes about stealing him to make him theirs for real (even after he mistakenly molested her
). Many men would kill to have in-laws accept them like that lol and for MC that happened within weeks. Jesus, they even had sex in her room, with her family knowing it, and he didn't get 12 gauge in his face or get thrown out!I'm biased, Lexi is my fav, Erryn nowhere close because of how she allowed Ethan to take over and allowed herself to be isolated without really fighting him.
A long time ago i actually tested myself, in the various paths I did I had MC broke up with the girl to see which one's reaction was the most believable/realistic, which one exhibited the most pain over the relationship ending and which breakup affected me as well.
As I've already said, Lexi nearly broke me and it took me a week before I could actually proceed with the new path. Second to that was surprisingly Nikki. I honestly expected Erryn to be the one hurt the most, but that didn't happen.
Surprisingly because Nikki's such a strong independent girl and also because I for some reason didn't expect the two strongest LIs to be the most sensitive and so easily hurt. With Layla the issue was cause I left her for Lexi, so there was betrayal there, plus that "we" continued to see each other at their home after that (so rubbing her face in it). The others, Cara, Erryn, Elena, etc. were much easier (still pissed Brooke was retroactively made into a lesbian).
Yep, our girl is pretty possessive of him.
If you're gonna come out guns blazing okay, I'll go down to your level. WORK ON YOUR READING COMPREHENSION, FAM. With not a single other girl the topic has been touched upon or has it affected MC.
And I see that you had a sense of humor removal surgery at some point in your life from your comment just below that. It's ironic you speak of sticking head in the sand, but you literally shoved yours up your butt just to ignore that Lexi and MC have such an incredible connection and relationship that no other compares and you just minimise it to pointless sex, lmoa.
But he did turn on his friend, physically attacked him and then willingly worked with a clear dirtbag just cause he was jealous of a PLATONIC relationship.
Maybe you're right, but sadly we know literally nothing about her (Nyx's fault), so I'm just going on from my experience with girls like her.
Has Zach fucked any girl until now? Especially Val?! If the MC is watching that would be a bonus!
No. He's pretty much a jerk that thinks flirting is when you hump a girl's leg, so he's been rejected by every girl, with various degrees of vehemence and violence.
Unless he has a major attitude adjustment and/or grows up he will die a virgin (not a major loss if his genes don't get passed on tbh).
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What makes you think that Val and MC are siblings though? Its pretty clear that Val's mom is Ximena. It is unlikely that Santi banged Ximena in the past and put a baby into her around the same time he did it to Emily since Val and MC are of the same age. Unless Santi in the past really does go around banging and impregnating every chick in the city and then dumping them and moving to the next lol which i guess is possible but unlikely i think. If anything, if you banged Gabi that would make it so you basically banged your stepmom since it would seem that Gabi is Santi's wife (soon to be ex-wife probably) but i don't think Nyx will go for that. After all, she likes to tease us with potential incestuous relationships but we all know nothing will ever come of it, since she confirmed early on no incest, its just teasing for the sake of plot and potential drama. But at this point we just don't know who Val's dad is yet, its all just speculation
I'm not saying they are (it's just the opposite), it was another poster that responded to my answer to someone else "1. Nyx can't allow incest due to Patreon, so there is no way Val and MC are half-siblings." with " Actually #1 is still debatable as they haven't done anything yet, they have been kissing sure, maybe gotten a little to close, but nothing that would be considered incest yet ".
What you're quoting is my post in the ongoing conversation with that person and saying IF they are (and I'm 1000% certain they're not) then what they're doing is incest and Patreon would punish the dev of this VN for posting story with incest on their website, thus the dev Nyx would not put incest into her story and would thus not create a path with Valeria.