VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.2] [Nyx]

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nyrek

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you just avoid telling them about dating the other one.
layla cries and lexi insults MC. they leave and MC is dumped.
 
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NewTricks said:
Since you have requested elaboration I will do my best to extrapolate on my statement, but be aware that it is merely the impression that I get.
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Thanks for attempting to explain your point of view. I made the following comment:
It has been my experience that people who dislike Erynn in this thread have completely distorted the facts and the story. They have 'created a bubble universe or religion' around Erynn to explain why they don't like her (as you put it).
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That seems to be accurate in your reasoning.
For example, you state:
Erryn is initially introduced just as a pain point, but the first time we actually see her in person she interferes with a pleasant night out that MC is having with Layla.
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This, of course, is not the case. The first time we see Erynn is as a flashback of the MC telling the story to Alexis. The NEXT time we see Erynn, she is talking with her mom. Then, we see her in the scene at the bar.
Here you state:
...she interferes with a pleasant night out that MC is having with Layla. Regardless of whether or not MC accepts her invitation her inappropriate level of attachment and presumption that he would drop all of his friends to be with her makes Layla feel insecure with him.
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Here you have a CHOICE to stay with Layla and company or go with Erynn. How does Erynn make "Layla feel insecure with him?" What is illustrated or stated in the visual novel that indicates to you that Layla feels insecure with the MC?

In every playthrough I did, Layla and Erynn are happy to see each other. If you choose to leave with Erynn, Layla says that they will be fine. If you choose to stay with Layla, Erynn says she understands and leaves sadly. Layla actually says, "she looks sad." Remember an important piece here, Erynn is clueless about why the MC ghosted her and hasn't spoken to her in years. The issues being illustrated here belong to the MC — no one else.

Then you claim that Erynn causes undue tension in her relationship with Alexis because Alexis does not feel comfortable sharing her growing love for the MC! Except, the real reason for this tension is because Alexis is hiding the relationship FROM Erynn because she feels guilty about it.

Then, there is this whole mess to round it out:
[Erynn] isn't a love interest in and of herself, but rather a romantic foil. She doesn't seem to have a place in the story that doesn't involve making MC choose between her friendship and romance with the other girls. We get to see the other relationships develop from introductions to the building of affection and affinity, eventually to romance and passion. But everything regarding Erryn is confined to the distant past and is merely uncomfortable in the present while having no apparent future.
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The entire story starts out with a flashback about the MC and Erynn. This is a story about the MC and Erynn. Throughout the entire story, there are numerous girls competing for his affection. Their entire purpose is to cause conflict and release as potential love interests. Will the MC choose the love of his dreams? The girl next door? Or will he choose a new love?

Her main purpose seems to be to pop up and make the other girls insecure because she is a model. This isn't a flaw in her character, but only in how she has been used to this point.
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And here is where you attempt to say the problem is how Nyx is using Erynn as a plot device in the story. I would say that the support above shows that the problem is you misunderstanding what the plot of the story is. The relationship between the MC and Erynn IS the plot. Erynn is a protagonist. All the other girls are potential love interests.

This, in no way, detracts from the fact that you have a right to your opinion. You can choose to like or dislike a character for whatever reason you feel works. But your claims and the claims of many of the people that have written large paragraphs attempting to illustrate their reasoning are all based on false claims. Nothing in the story actually supports any part of your entire explanation. I do not understand why this is so difficult. The story is written at a level that is easily understood, at least for most native English speakers. Perhaps, English is not your primary language. Perhaps, many of the people making ridiculous claims about the story are people who never actually read the story. There seems to be no other explanation.

I would attempt to understand other people's long dissertations on why they believe Erynn is <insert random belief here>. But it appears to be almost entirely the work of trolling. I appreciate your explanation and your taking the time.
 
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hakuna-matata

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I haven't started the new episode. As a chick, I say Erynn is an idiot. She's an idiot for remaining friends with an absolute asshole, Ethan. She should have told him to fuck off the moment he insulted the MC when they were young teenagers.

Also, MC is an idiot for being friends with Zach. He's pathetic, a loser, and beyond creepy.
 
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The Senior Perv

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nyrek said:
it felt worse seeing layla like this than seeing erynn behind the dumpster
look at her :(
poor lays :(
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It's sad to see Layla's reaction, but at least you can avoid that scene by being HONEST with the sisters before getting caught trying to be casanova.

In Erynn's case... no matter what you do, the last scene is always the same. For me knowing that your childhood friend is laying behind a dumpster, possibly drugged and raped, is far worse. People can like or dislike Erynn, but ending up like that is something nobody deserves.
 
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DIRTY Filthy Animal said:
Can the mc bang any of the moms in this game? Not sure if the Spanish teacher is a mom or not, but she’d definately qualify as a milf. Really want Laylas mom & id love to fuck Zacks mom right in front of him tied to a chair
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You can bang Gabi the Spanish teacher.

Just like Emily and Melissa, I find Layla's and Alexis' mom out of reach. Even if you manage to do that, the MC would get in a lot of problems if that happened.

And I'll bang Zach's mom and sister out of vengeance. That little shit deserves the worst alongside Ethan.
 
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MrD812

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Puma1978 said:
What is true in ur summary and what fits also to my explanation is that so far Erynns story is just not as detailed and engaging written like the one of Lexi. But of course everyone can blow up some details to get to the point she must be the only real LI to MC. And to make sure Erynn is not trash to me but a good childhood friend who i care about. But with current story she is not really a Love Intrest to me.
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Puma, answer questions directly related to what has been askd please.
 
MrD812

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Puma1978 said:
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To be honest it would be more realistic that younger girls like older boys than opposite but u skipped thr scene where Alex went after her and comforted her ( of course u will now call it accidently because later Eran explains also he searched her right after he run away).
Anyway..a real friend or boyfriend would immediatley chase a girl away who is bullying his gf. The fact is that Alex already commited as teenager that he does not like Evylin and til today is not close with her while Eran obviously couldnt get rid of Evilyn until today and even let her manipulate him against his friends.
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You can add every scene AND directly from the VN

Placed an example, for comprehending better how things are with the swop of gender.
Not to do every scene for you but rather give you the idea of 'how'.

Do You comprehend now?
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Don't try the gender swap argument. The situations are written with the gender difference in mind.
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I can and it's good for comprehending things at large.
Not stuck in limited perspective
Does not change the basics going on.

Yeah, some people would not tolerate things the same and THAT shows more "how" things really ARE.

Hence, it's an Example.
 
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MrD812

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Puma1978 said:
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To be honest it would be more realistic that younger girls like older boys than opposite but u skipped thr scene where Alex went after her and comforted her ( of course u will now call it accidently because later Eran explains also he searched her right after he run away).
Anyway..a real friend or boyfriend would immediatley chase a girl away who is bullying his gf. The fact is that Alex already commited as teenager that he does not like Evylin and til today is not close with her while Eran obviously couldnt get rid of Evilyn until today and even let her manipulate him against his friends.
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Puma, would You like Your Best Friend to lie & manipulate, to Fuck Your Sweetheart?

Yes/No?
 
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