VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.2] [Nyx]

[Astrocreep137]

C'mon, no one here wants to ruin Nyx's business?

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Some Devs like to shoot themselves in the foot for some reason. I don't understand it.

Releasing pictures HELPS advertise your product. If people can't see what you have to offer, why do you think they want to invest in it? This goes for developer updates as well. WHY HIDE THEM behind the paywall? They should be visible to ALL. You want people to know what state your product is in and when it will be available. I get that some people join for the month of the release and then cancel. I'm pretty sure the devs know this as well, but if a large part your user-base has no idea when your release is, how do expect to make any money? It shouldn't be a secret!

The only thing that should be behind the paywall is the game itself, "special" renders, and the ability to communicate directly with the developer. The developer should be as communicative as possible with their fan-base. They are the salesperson for their own product.

 

[Golden Trump]

Some Devs like to shoot themselves in the foot for some reason. I don't understand it.

Releasing pictures HELPS advertise your product. If people can't see what you have to offer, why do you think they want to invest in it? This goes for developer updates as well. WHY HIDE THEM behind the paywall? They should be visible to ALL. You want people to know what state your product is in and when it will be available. I get that some people join for the month of the release and then cancel. I'm pretty sure the devs know this as well, but if a large part your user-base has no idea when your release is, how do expect to make any money? It shouldn't be a secret!

The only thing that should be behind the paywall is the game itself, "special" renders, and the ability to communicate directly with the developer. The developer should be as communicative as possible with their fan-base. They are the salesperson for their own product.

I would say if u go on their patron pages there are screenshots of what comes in the game as a teaser and if u really want to see more so go pay for it and enjoy them every month . If people can see all the preview pics and development phase from here for free then they will have no need to pay for the months other than the one when the game releases so that would affect the developer's income. That's the reason they are kept locked only for patrons. Some devs are lenient about it and let it go while some aren't and also this dev is a WOMAN.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Some Devs like to shoot themselves in the foot for some reason. I don't understand it.

Releasing pictures HELPS advertise your product. If people can't see what you have to offer, why do you think they want to invest in it? This goes for developer updates as well. WHY HIDE THEM behind the paywall? They should be visible to ALL. You want people to know what state your product is in and when it will be available. I get that some people join for the month of the release and then cancel. I'm pretty sure the devs know this as well, but if a large part your user-base has no idea when your release is, how do expect to make any money? It shouldn't be a secret!

The only thing that should be behind the paywall is the game itself, "special" renders, and the ability to communicate directly with the developer. The developer should be as communicative as possible with their fan-base. They are the salesperson for their own product.

If people can see all the preview pics and development phase from here for free then they will have no need to pay for the months other than the one when the game releases so that would affect the developer's income.

What he's saying is the lack of advertising also affects the developer's income.

One lesson/experience I always remember from my first job at a big box store was how the inventory manager and store manager would never get along on security and theft issues - the inventory manager would want every small product security wrapped and locked up, and the store manager would want none of that - all the products on the shelves easy to examine and take with.

At the time I thought the inventory guy was correct, doing his job by the book, following procedure; until you realize the big picture the store manager saw; if having items loosely secured causes $1k more in theft a month, that's likely PEANUTS compared with increased sales from legitimate customers able to try and buy items.

Yes, those "preview pics" do have a value. But they have both an "immediate access value" and a "potential for advertising value". By restricting access, the dev is chosing the short term profits route over the potentially larger but longer route.

 

[Astrocreep137]

I would say if u go on their patron pages there are screenshots of what comes in the game as a teaser and if u really want to see more so go pay for it and enjoy them every month . If people can see all the preview pics and development phase from here for free then they will have no need to pay for the months other than the one when the game releases so that would affect the developer's income. That's the reason they are kept locked only for patrons. Some devs are lenient about it and let it go while some aren't and also this dev is a WOMAN.

I agree to an extent. That's why I mentioned "special" renders. You can have renders you deem for the public, and then you have renders that are behind the paywall. Sometimes, you give the public a gift, a lewd render if you will. For the most part, renders that may provide key information in the plot, or lewds stay behind the pay wall. It's the bait so to speak.

As for monthly subscribers. I have always seen those people as the ones who truly enjoy and want to support the developer in their product. They want the special pictures, they want the interaction with the developer. No matter what you do you are always going to have the subscribers that sub for the for release month and then drop it immediately after they get the product. I might even go as far as to say that there are probably more of the latter type of subscribers.

There is a balancing act that, as a developer, you have to understand that not everyone can afford a monthly subscription for, say $15 a month vs. $5 a month. You need to find a sweet spot that allows you to make a little bit of profit but also maintain as many subscribers as possible while providing value. All the while you also need to be marketing your product. During the time before your releases the way you do that is by releasing pictures and communicating. That's your product between releases.

 

[Old Man Al]

Still working on the hot tub scene and I think I'm about halfway done (with that scene, not the whole episode). I clearly underestimated how large that scene is going to be. Looking at the script, I could easily make this a whole episode, if not two. So while I'm working on the renders, I'm trying to shorten the script wherever I can. It will take at least 3 more weeks since the scene will split into multiple paths with different outcomes. Once that is done, the first day will finally be finished (Minus the part I'll be redoing, but that will be once day 2 is finished).
That's it basically. I don't have much to communicate since it's been the same for weeks. Progress is going well and no further problems as of yet.

 

[robrize2169]

seems like a no brainer to show your work wherever you can, look what DPC does, he makes regular updates on a few of these sites that give updates on his work and shows renders etc. and it's no wonder he makes a fortune off BADIK even with few updates each year. we see what he is working on and when the update drops, we play the shit outta it. whether we pay to play or wait for its free release.

 

[Matt2012021]

Fail to see the problem with the Dev not wanting preview pictures on here if really got to see those pics drop her a few bucks otherwise don't complain

 

[gelu123]

Fail to see the problem with the Dev not wanting preview pictures on here if really got to see those pics drop her a few bucks otherwise don't complain

If you dont understand basic advertisment than plz… if your product is patreon only of course it wont be popular, how many ppl learn about this games from searching patreon Instead of searching pirate site (where they can also try it).

 

[Deleted member 3788572]

C'mon NebulousShooter , don't be a cheapskate. We need those Elena bikini shots.

 

[Matt2012021]

So you make judgements off a picture sure whatever works for you not like any pictures have ever been misleading

 

[notakernelguy]

Saved deleted previews

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Fail to see the problem with the Dev not wanting preview pictures on here if really got to see those pics drop her a few bucks otherwise don't complain

I don’t see why dev wouldn’t want to put free teaser pics on a “PIRATE” site so people will be interested in your game. they use this site for free publicity which gets people to know about your game,You get a lot more free views on here then you do on Patreon, nobody goes to Patreon to try and find a new game to play, you try them here for free & if you want to help the dev out or subscribe so you can play the new update weeks before it’s here

 

[dolfe67]

Spoiler: Previews - Episode 11

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[LSC82]

Spoiler: Previews - Episode 11

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Now there's something worth talking about...
It appears that a decision between Erynn and the "surviving" Monroe girl will need to be made in this episode.

Combine that with the lastest preview posted Nyx saying the hottub party can go in 3 directions (Layla, Elena and... maybe then both combined, outside chance for Valeria).

 

[луна]

Spoiler: Previews - Episode 11

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I prefer the old haircut mc had.

 

[AchedCroissant]

Preview pictures - Episode 11 - Party @ The Monroes

The only Monroe it's worth it

 

[cxx]

The only Monroe it's worth it

so you'd turn down 3some offer?

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I want the hottest Monroe mommy Monroe, you guys can have Layla

 

[AchedCroissant]

so you'd turn down 3some offer?

Since the saves are dead I have nothing of the game and will play again when EP 11 comes out

 

[cxx]

Since the saves are dead I have nothing of the game and will play again when EP 11 comes out

same.