LSC82

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And who is waiting for the first real big explosion due to the Erynn/MC sexy photo shoot? All the chickens will be jealous of Erynn... :ROFLMAO:
Yeah that one could shake things up lol.

How will Alexis react???
Tough spot, technically it was "just work" and in a professional environment, and she was informed that the MC modelled with Erynn... so "technically" she should give him the benefit of the doubt...
But it should still make her a bit... insecure, since the very beggining there's subtext that she's afraid that Erynn can just swoop in and get the MC at any time.

Even worst if it gets revealed that people are calling for him to get more gigs with her, since they have such good chemistry lol.
 

valbitterb

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Yeah that one could shake things up lol.


Tough spot, technically it was "just work" and in a professional environment, and she was informed that the MC modelled with Erynn... so "technically" she should give him the benefit of the doubt...
But it should still make her a bit... insecure, since the very beggining there's subtext that she's afraid that Erynn can just swoop in and get the MC at any time.

Even worst if it gets revealed that people are calling for him to get more gigs with her, since they have such good chemistry lol.

Erryn "racking" up bonus points with her rack.

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The MC should use this line every time he cancels a date.

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Tough spot, technically it was "just work" and in a professional environment, and she was informed that the MC modelled with Erynn... so "technically" she should give him the benefit of the doubt...
But it should still make her a bit... insecure, since the very beggining there's subtext that she's afraid that Erynn can just swoop in and get the MC at any time.

Even worst if it gets revealed that people are calling for him to get more gigs with her, since they have such good chemistry lol.
You're absolutely right, it's really just a work... But of course, understanding women's logic is quite a complicated thing... And maybe I thought of something... What if this photoshoot starts Melissa's route as well? Now his eyes really light up when he sees MC with Eryn in these hot pics... And his imagination is definitely kicking in, prompting him to take action... Of course, this is just speculation on my part...
 

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What if this photoshoot starts Melissa's route as well? Now his eyes really light up when he sees MC with Eryn in these hot pics... And his imagination is definitely kicking in, prompting him to take action... Of course, this is just speculation on my part...
Her*

You know...I'd die laughing if that's when the horror tag gets added and Nyx turns it into an Itialian Giallo :sneaky: :devilish:
 

LSC82

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You're absolutely right, it's really just a work... But of course, understanding women's logic is quite a complicated thing... And maybe I thought of something... What if this photoshoot starts Melissa's route as well? Now his eyes really light up when he sees MC with Eryn in these hot pics... And his imagination is definitely kicking in, prompting him to take action... Of course, this is just speculation on my part...
By the "letter of the law" the MC and Erynn just did what they were paid to do lol.
There might be a lot more cooking, you may have kissed Erynn afterwards, and paid her a "homage" in the bathroom, but Alexis doesn't know that (she fears it however).
So it's definitely a tough spot in which she shouldn't overreact, but she might...
And it will certainly affect her emotionally... No matter if externally she keeps her cool or not.

So it could be more seeds of discord planted or outright fight, who knows? It's an interesting one no doubt.

Melissa... i don't know, sounds more farfetched, she's been having these dreams and hasn't pulled the trigger on anything yet...
My number 1 suspect for causing Melissa to jump into action would still be seeing Emily with John, that would also be a flood of emotions...

We are getting a haircut this episode, so we are seeing Melissa even if Nyx didn't say "Melissa scene", maybe this is the big mistery?
 

Kpyna

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Yes and it didn't need to be nearly as complicated. I've mentioned Valeria before but look at the situation with Layla when you are purely friends with her and pursuing Val. Layla pretty much offers to be your wingman and help you with her, there's no jealousy or bad feelings involved. Early on players should have had the option to switch their attention to Elena if they wanted and let Layla know early on who you were into.
You've given an good example, but it doesn't really fit the situation. Val has just appeared, compairing to Elena & Lexi for example, no one knows her, friendship lasting for one month and for several years is not the same thing. Layla & Elena are besties for years, Layla & Lexi are sisters. It's a first major part and difference in situations and their possible outcomes. Then it comes to the second part, which is also intertwined with your next quote. Regarding this particular game , it's plot, story and universe - we are only allowed to get closer to Elena if we're doing well with Layla.

Nyx written and made it this way. Elena is opening and warming up to MC while seeing how good he is treating Layla. Because Elena knows that Layla have issues and still in trouble after Lucas case. And Elena have her own issues and "situation" too. If MC is not interested in Layla - they aren't getting close with Elena enough to make her being interested in MC as well. Elena & Layla are protecting each other in different ways. Elena's protection lies in a way to control how particular guy treats Layla as a girl (take Zach as example). She kinda looks after her. While Layla's help and care of Elena is more mundane or better to say practical. She knows her family and social/financial situation quite well and help her in different ways. The most frank example and one that was shown and hinted to us - that she is sharing clothes with her. At such particular period of life and girl's age it means a lot. Imagine Elena w/o Layla around and and all alone - poor thing.

And I think this particular friendship and their whole relationship is written quite well and deep enough to bring player different reasons and emotions and make this final choice complicated enough.

I enjoy some drama in AVN's but when it starts to make me feel like shit, I'm not interested. There's enough in life and in the world to make me feel shit, I don't need it in a game that I'm supposed to be playing for fun.
This is one of the main reasons why I usually prefer to do pure runs where I focus on one girl only and just have multiple saves. This may be boring for some, but it's what I enjoy.
The thing is... story is good and can touch and bite you in a different ways only if you can somehow relate/believe/trust in it. Life is complicated thing as well as any kind of relationships.
If the game story makes you feel like shit after doing something bad to imaginary character(s) - then it's written good enough. It means that you kinda care about story and it's characters and you have invested more or less emotions into it. And following a "clean" single LI path is not a guarantee of drama free path and pass if story is really well done.

Finally, we have enough range of reasons to play/watch/read something and different goals at the end or during this process as well. Signs of a good product (in our case - decent AVN game) that you interested in story and plot and you care about characters. Or you (and others) write something like this on F95 and other forums and chats.

Someone just wants to distance a bit (or not just a bit) from real life, someone wants to experience something that is not available to him in real life, someone wants to feel certain emotions or their spectrum, etc. Simple desire to just jerk off can't be forgotten as well, but I think the games like this particular one is not compatible with it, since focus is not on sex and lews scenes as is, but on relationships and bringing different emotions to player first of all. First sign of game which is intended as a pure jerk off material - no characters conflicts, no real feelings and emotions while playing. Just juicy pictures and scenes, harems, zero consequences, even little ones or they mean nothing or lead to more and more sex rather than making you feel bad/uncomfortable/guilty etc.
 

anonnyscouse

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The problem is that a lot of people are asking for more realism in AVNs.

The MC/Elena/Layla situation is very realistic. MC comes back to town and knows virtually no-one, runs into an attractive girl on his first day at school and gets close to her, but gets to know her best friend through her and realises he likes her more, that's a realistic scenario. From the other side Elena doesn't have time to socialise due to school and family life but gets to know the new guy through her best friend and catches feeling for him, again it's a realistic scenario. Yes it's a shitty situation and if Nyx continues with the realism it will at the very least put considerable strain on Layla and Elena's friendship, but that doesn't make it a bad storyline or bad writing.
 

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You've given an good example, but it doesn't really fit the situation. Val has just appeared, compairing to Elena & Lexi for example, no one knows her, friendship lasting for one month and for several years is not the same thing. Layla & Elena are besties for years, Layla & Lexi are sisters. It's a first major part and difference in situations and their possible outcomes. Then it comes to the second part, which is also intertwined with your next quote. Regarding this particular game , it's plot, story and universe - we are only allowed to get closer to Elena if we're doing well with Layla.

Nyx written and made it this way. Elena is opening and warming up to MC while seeing how good he is treating Layla. Because Elena knows that Layla have issues and still in trouble after Lucas case. And Elena have her own issues and "situation" too. If MC is not interested in Layla - they aren't getting close with Elena enough to make her being interested in MC as well. Elena & Layla are protecting each other in different ways. Elena's protection lies in a way to control how particular guy treats Layla as a girl (take Zach as example). She kinda looks after her. While Layla's help and care of Elena is more mundane or better to say practical. She knows her family and social/financial situation quite well and help her in different ways. The most frank example and one that was shown and hinted to us - that she is sharing clothes with her. At such particular period of life and girl's age it means a lot. Imagine Elena w/o Layla around and and all alone - poor thing.

And I think this particular friendship and their whole relationship is written quite well and deep enough to bring player different reasons and emotions and make this final choice complicated enough.


The thing is... story is good and can touch and bite you in a different ways only if you can somehow relate/believe/trust in it. Life is complicated thing as well as any kind of relationships.
If the game story makes you feel like shit after doing something bad to imaginary character(s) - then it's written good enough. It means that you kinda care about story and it's characters and you have invested more or less emotions into it. And following a "clean" single LI path is not a guarantee of drama free path and pass if story is really well done.

Finally, we have enough range of reasons to play/watch/read something and different goals at the end or during this process as well. Signs of a good product (in our case - decent AVN game) that you interested in story and plot and you care about characters. Or you (and others) write something like this on F95 and other forums and chats.

Someone just wants to distance a bit (or not just a bit) from real life, someone wants to experience something that is not available to him in real life, someone wants to feel certain emotions or their spectrum, etc. Simple desire to just jerk off can't be forgotten as well, but I think the games like this particular one is not compatible with it, since focus is not on sex and lews scenes as is, but on relationships and bringing different emotions to player first of all. First sign of game which is intended as a pure jerk off material - no characters conflicts, no real feelings and emotions while playing. Just juicy pictures and scenes, harems, zero consequences, even little ones or they mean nothing or lead to more and more sex rather than making you feel bad/uncomfortable/guilty etc.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that Intertwined is well written. It's my second favourite AVN and the writing is a massive part of that. I just wish that there were another way to get on to Elena's path that doesn't involve hurting Layla, as at the moment Elena is off limits to me because I don't want to hurt her or their friendship. But it is what it is I guess.
 

Kpyna

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Don't get me wrong, I agree that Intertwined is well written. It's my second favourite AVN and the writing is a massive part of that. I just wish that there were another way to get on to Elena's path that doesn't involve hurting Layla, as at the moment Elena is off limits to me because I don't want to hurt her or their friendship. But it is what it is I guess.
I did't get you wrong, I just tried to tell that the good game of this genre shouldn't be too simple and carefree when it comes to relationships, love, feelings, etc in compare with real life. This aspect makes you feel that story is well written, believe in it and expect full range of emotions. Life is not only the comedy nor the tragedy or depression, it always something in between. And you are allowed to adjust the degree of where story is going for you personally, and choices/branches/conflicts are there to help you tune the story in one or another way. Like in interactive book.

There're no easy LI paths in Intertwined if you'll look better on whole story and from the MC perspective. So Elena's & Layla's part in story and choice between them is just a piece of the whole pie. If you think that some of the other choices are more easy - it's just your view and perspective, your own perception. And some parts of story is still not told to us to get us the whole picture. For example, we know nothing of Lexi in period between MC's last days in the city and up to current time in game universe. But at the same time it means nothing for Layla - in compare, because she is younger and her only major issue from the past is Lucas, up to this moment.
 
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