LSC82

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To be fair Layla path is the path leading to Elena so I guess there'll be some progress there.

It's her self-insert of course she sees it as a thank you.
Yeah, Elena is included in at least one of the major Layla scenes(that we know for sure)...
In the recent post Nyx also says the update favors "Intertwining" so she's gonna have something.

Will we finally be able to confess our feelings to her and make a move(it's gotta happen someday right?)?
Or more dancing around the issue and sad staring at Layla kissing the MC?
I don't know really, i hope for the first one... I'm mentally prepared for the second one, this way it can only surprise me in a positive way.

You sure about that or you only thinking that because she used the Name ValeriaNyx for a while?

I'm not sure Valeria is an addition. Okay, MC met her in Ep5 (of 11) but it's also in game week 2. On Tuesday to be exact. I don't know if one could say it's late. End of Ep10.5 was in game week 5 Monday. We shouldn't forget that Ep1 was just the first in game day till he goes to geography class, Ep2 the first two school days, Ep3 the third school day and Ep4 was the whole Riverside plot, the beach date with Layla/Elena, and the Yellow Snow concert with Alexis. So, if you just look at the plot Valeria doesn't show up late.
She feels quite new, we get the first glimpse of her when we go into the girls bathroom after Layla (i think) and you are correct that this takes place relatively early.
But we only get our first major interaction with her, with choices, on training camp in ep8, between that first glimpse and the training camp we are mostly hearing about her from Zach rather than interacting with her, that's why she still feels like the "new girl".

As for the "self-insert" topic... it mostly revolves around sharing a name with the game dev of course, no one knows what Nyx looks like(besides you apparently), but Valeria is also a little too perfect(raises flame shield), a chick that acts chill and cool, dresses quirky and stylish, everyone immediately likes, is pretty awesome in her field and even can fight... this much "perfection" combined with the name led to the theory.

It's possible that "wish fulfillment" character might be more accurate than straight up self insert...
 
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Tremonia

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As for the "self-insert" topic... it mostly revolves around sharing a name with the game dev of course, no one knows what Nyx looks like(besides you apparently), but Valeria is also a little too perfect(raises flame shield), a chick that acts chill and cool, dresses quirky and stylish, everyone immediately likes, is pretty awesome in her field and even can fight... this much "perfection" combined with the name led to the theory.
Well, theories are nice but Valeria is far from perfect. She's a sneaky bitch who is fully aware that Layla has the hots for MC and he's in a serious relationship with Alexis, but that doesn't stop her to hunt him. You're sure that's a perfect girl one want to be? There're way more "perfect" girls in this AVN. Sure, if you only rate the looks, Valeria is top tier in this AVN.
 

Dessolos

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Shit im surprised I like val as much as I do and I love Erynn and Alexis. The dev has done a good job with her as I feel she is maybe one of the weaker characters with a background as of now. Even on my personal Li list she is #13 out of 52 yet I think even on my personal list everyone up to about #25 or so on it has a better character background yet I like her that much.
 
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With the release of Episode 11, I decided to construct a table displaying the game's development progression. Hopefully, you've gained some insight into the growth and development. Thanks to mpa71 for the idea!

Because Nyx's animations aren't real animations they are also included in the render count.
EP​
Renders​
Development Time​
Release​
R/Week*​
1​
255
--​
1 June, 2020​
--​
2​
271 (+6%)
25 Days - 4 Weeks
26 June, 2020​
75.8
3​
529 (+95%)
36 Days - 5 Weeks (+44%)
1 Aug, 2020​
103 (+35%)
4​
1131 (+113%)
41 Days - 6 Weeks (+14%)
11 Sep, 2020​
193 (+87%)
5.5*​
843 (-25%)
76 Days - 11 Weeks (+85%)
26 Nov, 2020​
78 (-60%)
6​
1132 (+34%)
64 Days - 9 Weeks (-16%)
29 Jan, 2021​
124 (+60%)
7​
1006 (-11%)
63 Days - 9 Weeks (-1.5%)
2 Apr, 2021​
112 (-10%)
8​
3518 (+249%)
246 Days - 35 Weeks (+290%)
4 Dec, 2021​
100 (-10%)
9​
2034 (-42%)
148 Days - 21 Weeks(-40%)
1 May, 2022​
96 (-4%)
10.5*​
3576 (+76%)
250 Days - 35 Weeks (+69%)
6 Jan, 2023​
100 (+4%)
11​
3773 (+5%)
224 Days - 32 Weeks (-10.4%)
18 Aug, 2023​
118 (+18%)
Total development time - 1171 Days or 167 Weeks
*R/Week - Renders per week
*5.5, 10.5 - I combined updates 5 and 5.5, and update 10 and 10.5. This was only to highlight the "Major Updates.". I found it tough to distinguish the render count for 5 and 5.5 separately, so I just combined them and carried that mentality over to update 10.
Update 10.5 had 687 Renders and took 63 Days
Update 10 had 2889 and took 187 Days.
 
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With the forthcoming release of Episode 11, I decided to construct a table displaying the game's development progression. Hopefully, you've gained some insight into the growth and development. Thanks to mpa71 for the idea!
EP​
Renders​
Development Time​
Release​
R/Week*​
1​
255
--​
1 June, 2020​
--​
2​
271 (+6%)
25 Days - 4 Weeks
26 June, 2020​
75.8
3​
529 (+95%)
36 Days - 5 Weeks (+44%)
1 Aug, 2020​
103 (+35%)
4​
1131 (+113%)
41 Days - 6 Weeks (+14%)
11 Sep, 2020​
193 (+87%)
5.5​
843 (-25%)
76 Days - 11 Weeks (+85%)
26 Nov, 2020​
78 (-60%)
6​
1132 (+34%)
64 Days - 9 Weeks (-16%)
29 Jan, 2021​
124 (+60%)
7​
1006 (-11%)
63 Days - 9 Weeks (-1.5%)
2 Apr, 2021​
112 (-10%)
8​
3518 (+249%)
246 Days - 35 Weeks (+290%)
4 Dec, 2021​
100 (-10%)
9​
2034 (-42%)
148 Days - 21 Weeks(-40%)
1 May, 2022​
96 (-4%)
10.5​
3576 (+76%)
250 Days - 35 Weeks (+69%)
6 Jan, 2023​
100 (+4%)
11*​
3000 (-16%)
224 Days - 32 Weeks (-10.4%)
18 Aug, 2023​
94 (-6%)
Total development time - 1171 Days or 167 Weeks
*R/Week - Renders per week
*11 - Using currently available numbers so take it with a grain of salt
Nice, but v0.10.5 did not have any new content. That update was code changes and reworked renders for episode 1 and some of episode 2.

Episode 10 actually came out on November 4, 2022. So if 11 drops on the 18th as planned, then that'll be 288 days since the last episode (9 1/2 months or 41 weeks).
 

Warscared

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ffs yes valeria is how Nyx would like to look Erynn is the slimmed down version of Nyx
and for the final time all of you valeria simps stop simping for you sister
its not going to fucking happen and valeria is Santiago´s daughter
from his real girlfriend not his side piece Emily
and that is why Em was given the chance to abort by Santiago´s parents,
Santiago does not even know he as a male child,
his parents told him emily took the check and aborted!
and she was afraid of loosing her son, so she never told him
it was at the time the MC left to live with Andres when she reconnected with Santiago!
 

Dessolos

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ffs yes valeria is how Nyx would like to look Erynn is the slimmed down version of Nyx
and for the final time all of you valeria simps stop simping for you sister
its not going to fucking happen and valeria is Santiago´s daughter
from his real girlfriend not his side piece Emily
and that is why Em was given the chance to abort by Santiago´s parents,
Santiago does not even know he as a male child,
his parents told him emily took the check and aborted!
and she was afraid of loosing her son, so she never told him
it was at the time the MC left to live with Andres when she reconnected with Santiago!
I think I need to reply this as i dont recall valeria even hinted at that she is related to you but wouldn't surprise me either
 

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So I've been reading that Nyx is or was throwing a fit over mods?

Sucks because I don't get much time a year to enjoy playing vns or other games I like on steam etc..I am constantly traveling from one disaster to another the US..

When a game I used to enjoy such as this one is making it abundantly clear they don't like mods for their games then they loose my interest mainly because I did play this with and without mods I was exploring every single possible road and path that could be done back in 0.7 I believe it was.....I started using wt mods to make it easier to keep track of what I did and didn't click with my notes due to the benefit of the mods (bonus points for this etc) made different path picking easier.

Either way this sucks this was one of the very few that I truly enjoyed and with limited time to find out what I just did I am probably moving on....

Koga and the other moders just know your appreciated and the work you do is appreciated if things ever change and you update your mod then I will probably come back around.

I don't truly understand the fuss either the mod only helps those with limited time enjoy the story more without multiple saves bouncing around wondering what choices lead to what when your limited on time like I am.
 

Tremonia

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So I've been reading that Nyx is or was throwing a fit over mods?
No, there's a mod and she didn't do anything about it. She just tells the users to piss off when they get errors they didn't would get if they don't use a mod which breaks the game and causes errors. There were many dudes complaining to her about errors she didn't make and she couldn't solve because she isn't the one who made the mod. Sure, it's dumb to complain to her and not to the mod maker, but it is what it is and it steals her time, because she has to look after bugs, only to find out there's no bug, just a dude using a mod which those guys always forget to mention.
 

Nurikabe

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So I've been reading that Nyx is or was throwing a fit over mods?

Sucks because I don't get much time a year to enjoy playing vns or other games I like on steam etc..I am constantly traveling from one disaster to another the US..

When a game I used to enjoy such as this one is making it abundantly clear they don't like mods for their games then they loose my interest mainly because I did play this with and without mods I was exploring every single possible road and path that could be done back in 0.7 I believe it was.....I started using wt mods to make it easier to keep track of what I did and didn't click with my notes due to the benefit of the mods (bonus points for this etc) made different path picking easier.

Either way this sucks this was one of the very few that I truly enjoyed and with limited time to find out what I just did I am probably moving on....

Koga and the other moders just know your appreciated and the work you do is appreciated if things ever change and you update your mod then I will probably come back around.

I don't truly understand the fuss either the mod only helps those with limited time enjoy the story more without multiple saves bouncing around wondering what choices lead to what when your limited on time like I am.
Most devs don't "like" mods. I think a lot of it comes from people complaining about the game not working or a scene triggering incorrectly when it is the mod that is the culprit.

Honestly, what Nyx thinks or does not think is really irrelevant to this thread and the game in general. She shares her opinions on Discord when she needs to. She avoids this thread completely. Your enjoyment of the game will not be affected by that in any way.
 
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