Old Grumpy Wolf

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nikki or cora and gabi and maybe 1-2 others (besides sha'carri).
Sha'Carri is actually our auntie. :ROFLMAO:

All the torrents I find are for the previous update. Can you link me the current one please
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Krytax123

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Well, the loophole in CS is that the parents never got married (IIRC) so they're technically not legal step-siblings, even though they grew up together and all that jazz...

So yeah, again, just have Santiago and Adriana not legally married, but just living together for 15+ years, and there you go... legalities and technicalities fixed. And btw, considering neither Adrianna or Layla/Alexis have the Navarro surname, that's probably the case already... my point being is that Santiago is their "step dad" only in affective terms, he probably didn't adopt them legally...
Im pretty sure they got married (on tonalu, we even saw parts of it), otherwise the whole inheritance would be way more easy (mc inherits from mom, jaye from her dad) instead of shared wealth.

The loophole was the parents being dead when the relationship started and nowadays by science mumbo jumbo and researchers fucking up.

But yeah i think Adrianna and Santi are maybe simply not married too

Whats confusing when Adrianna talks to her husband at the night in the kitchen, he says something like they should try again as they always wanted three kids .. which really didnt sounded like them being adopted .. so i dont know
 
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Doesn't explain a lot of other things. Emily would've said something. There's no way she doesn't know that Adrianna and Santi are together if they are, she would have said something about him dating Alexis. Santi has also spent a lot of the last 15 years out of town, not sure kids he's not the real/adoptive father to would call him dad if he's just their mother's boyfriend they see occasionally, Santi didn't even want his own child 18 years ago but within 2-3 years was willing to get with a girl who already had two kids?
Well yeah, that's more the issue here... Like I said in a previous post, some of the writing concerning that is an issue... I mean, Nyx can always go back and clean it up later, but right now it doesn't make sense that Emily wouldn't say shit about it, specially on the Alexis path.

Navarro going out of town frequently doesn't mean much tho, he could still have been present enough for them throughout the years to the point where they see him as their dad... that's not an uncommon ocurrence... so I don't see that as a huge problem... but sure, it could also do with some narrative touch ups.
 
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So yeah, again, just have Santiago and Adriana not legally married, but just living together for 15+ years, and there you go... legalities and technicalities fixed. And btw, considering neither Adrianna or Layla/Alexis have the Navarro surname, that's probably the case already... my point being is that Santiago is their "step dad" only in affective terms, he probably didn't adopt them legally...
Yep. Saw an interview with Kate and Oliver Hudson recently where they talk about their dad, Kurt Russell. He’s not their biological dad; he never married their mom, Goldie Hawn, even though they’ve been together for more than 40 years; he never legally adopted them. But he raised them, so he’s their dad. They call him Dad. Or, of course, Kurt.

And if at any point either of them individually want to fuck Kurt, and he’s down to pound, they can. It’d be horrifying and offensive, but it’d be totally legal, and totally not incest. (Sure feel like it though.) Woody Allen and Soon-Yi Previn were in the very same situation, and even got married.

That can easily be Santiago’s relationship with Alexis and Layla, and solves the incest problem.
 

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Yep. Saw an interview with Kate and Oliver Hudson recently where they talk about their dad, Kurt Russell. He’s not their biological dad; he never married their mom, Goldie Hawn, even though they’ve been together for more than 40 years; he never legally adopted them. But he raised them, so he’s their dad. They call him Dad. Or, of course, Kurt.

And if at any point either of them individually want to fuck Kurt, and he’s down to pound, they can. It’d be horrifying and offensive, but it’d be totally legal, and totally not incest. (Sure feel like it though.)

That can easily be Santiago’s relationship with Alexis and Layla, and solves the incest problem.
Well, I don't need to see no interview... my mom divorced and remarried when I was very young, but my step-dad never adopted us, so I have my bio father's surname, but my step-dad was like my dad because he's the one who raised me... mind you, I never called him "dad" 'cause he prefered we call him by his name, but the point is: It's actually a very common situation.
 
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Not just her coach, she has a huge crush on him, and now has a teenage lover who looks like him... and her marriage is falling appart too... so who knows, maybe she's just trying to change stuff.
She wouldn't have shouted at someone she simply had a crush on because he didn't come to see her at the competition. "You never have time for me" is something you say in a relationship.
 
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Well yeah, that's more the issue here... Like I said in a previous post, some of the writing concerning that is an issue... I mean, Nyx can always go back and clean it up later, but right now it doesn't make sense that Emily wouldn't say shit about it, specially on the Alexis path.

Navarro going out of town frequently doesn't mean much tho, he could still have been present enough for them throughout the years to the point where they see him as their dad... that's not an uncommon ocurrence... so I don't see that as a huge problem... but sure, it could also do with some narrative touch ups.
Or alternatively the man at the bar is either not Santi or not Lexi's dad, that solves all those questions without needing to retcon anything.

A way to explain both options:

Mr Monroe is Adrianna's husband and they've been together since before Lexi was born, Lexi and Layla are his daughters with Adrianna. If that's the case then he was already in a relationship with Adrianna while Santi was in a relationship with Emily, putting him in a position to know about MC. He has figured out his daughter is dating a guy but she's always kept him out of the loop with regards to her love life so he decides to fuck with MC and pretend to be his father in order to see his reaction and work out if he is Lexi's boyfriend.

Lexi lied about the guy at the bar being her father, it's a guy she knows because her father knows him (as explained in previous theory), she's worried about how MC would behave around her father so decides to test him before actually introducing them. She doesn't know though that her father's friend is MC's biological father though so the plan has blown up in her face a bit.

Chef Tanaka :WeSmart:
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Yep. Saw an interview with Kate and Oliver Hudson recently where they talk about their dad, Kurt Russell. He’s not their biological dad; he never married their mom, Goldie Hawn, even though they’ve been together for more than 40 years; he never legally adopted them. But he raised them, so he’s their dad. They call him Dad. Or, of course, Kurt.

And if at any point either of them individually want to fuck Kurt, and he’s down to pound, they can. It’d be horrifying and offensive, but it’d be totally legal, and totally not incest. (Sure feel like it though.) Woody Allen and Soon-Yi Previn were in the very same situation, and even got married.

That can easily be Santiago’s relationship with Alexis and Layla, and solves the incest problem.
California (their main residence) would be fine, many US states this would still be classed as illegal (and in many countries) even if they are consenting adults. Really not that clear cut at all as Kurt 'has' been the father figure, has been for many years, and has had a position of authority over them. It would not be fine at all...married or otherwise.

Stupid yes...but politicians make laws unfortunately (along with the church), not normal sane people.
 

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Nice update, very interested to see what happens next with Valeria :D
Val has clearly stated that he will only date you if you break up with Alex... So now comes the question: Accepting the stupidity of both parties (Alex/MC) on a loyal path until now, but you know that Alex loves you, do you start an uncertain relationship.. .? There was a lot of controversy recently about Val's character, and he's even given it now...(what the hell are you flirting with when you say he's not your type (Daryll)) And he openly tells MC... do you need an insecure girl? Okay, it's nice, but it's not enough... I don't trust it, I'm sorry.
 

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She wouldn't have shouted at someone she simply had a crush on because he didn't come to see her at the competition. "You never have time for me" is something you say in a relationship.
But we don't actually know IF she was talking to Navarro... Gabby IS married, she was probably talking to her husband, whoever that is (maybe the other white haired dude at the competition).

That said, sure, it's possible they're having an affair, I guess...

Edit: Wait, now that I think about it, do we know for a fact that Gabby is married?? :unsure:

MC sees the picture with Navarro and assumes she's married, but has it ever been explicitely stated in the game? I can't recall... Because if she actually isn't, then yeah, it's very possible Navarro's having an affair with Gabby, and that would explain things a lot easier.
 
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