I don't think that every twist or reveal needs to be hard to figure out to be effective. Sometimes things can be right under your nose and you don't see them. I've experienced that myself in life. For me it's about when will Melissa and John see eachother and then watch the penny drop.
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OMG I just realized that when ole John figures it out that Erynn is his daughter, Ethan's about to get fucked up. 
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I can't wait till he talks to Mel after he figures it out lol. Tho I imagine when he does he is gonna spill the beans to Mel about how bad the blackmail really is. If I recall Erynn did eventually tell Mel but I think she undersold how serious it was if I had to guess.OMG I just realized that when ole John figures it out that Erynn is his daughter, Ethan's about to get fucked up.
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lmfao I didn't think of this until now when he realizes Erynn is his daughter and part of the plan was buying her services as an escort. He's probably gonna freak out and be disgusted to think how far things could of gone for the plan to work
OMG I just realized that when ole John figures it out that Erynn is his daughter, Ethan's about to get fucked up.
This is one of the things that makes it such a great reveal. You can tell that John already cares about Erynn as he is helping her with Ethan and that is as a friend of a friend. Finding out that she is his daughter, his flesh and blood that is being taken advantage of, takes it to a whole new level. Erynn will probably feel a bit awkward as she does have a bit of a crush on him, or finds him attractive anyway. Then poor Iris with her crush on Erynn, who I'm sure is going to be devastated but have to pretend to be happy. John and Santiago both must owe a fortune in child support.
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How's John going to feel about MC after he finds out he banged both his daughters?
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he will shake his hand and call him son
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only thing that will make it better is if we can impregnate both of them before he puts 2 and 2 together which I know won't happen but it would be great drama and chaos.
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His scene when he met the MC, asking about his intentions with his daughter, the MC's response, and his laughter were sensational.
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The game is being reworked and Nyx is still playing around with John's Tattoos, at some pictures they look like this:
This one looks like a better match for the Melissa dream guy, but i wouldn't put much stock on tattoo matching since these things are still in flux.
In my opinion there's so much suggestion it's John that it would be kinda lame to pull a different guy who fits the description perfectly, just for a "you thought it was John, but Erynn's dad is actually his cousin/brother (who we never heard about before)".
If we do a count:
He fits the decription(tall, blonde and tattoed).
Looking at Erynn immediately brings some memories of someone he knew (you are gonna make that just upon gazing at Erynn he immediately thinks about a girl his brother/cousin fucked 20 years ago? That's justifiable for an uber hot girl you fucked... but way more difficult for someone else's girl).
Erynn herself thinking "this guy is the perfect match of what mom told me" upon looking at him.
And the constant... Erynn and Iris are so much like each other... they look like they could be sisters.
Erynn also knows his first name of her father and that didn't stop her thinking this could be her dad.
While i'm sure Nyx(not just her, most devs) would love to pull this type of gotcha and surprise players, they shouldn't do that at the expense of a good story.
A new guy would be meaningless, John as Erynn's dad will be emotional.
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Ah, that's good to know and makes me feel better as I had been certain it was John and then was shocked to see the tattoos were noticeably different. I didn't check any other scenes as I assumed they would be the same in those. Cheers!
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Hi, is it okay that when you're dating Layla, Erynn is trying to get you to 'go out' with Alexis, and at the beach, you can be with Iris, then later, you can kiss Erynn? I can't make sense of how you can be with Erynn while she knows you're with Layla, and at the same time, Erynn is also trying to get you to be with Alexis
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Have you used a mod or changed values in the console? Erynn trying to set MC up with Alexis when he's with Layla is known as the "Alexis secret path" and should only be active if you are friends with Erynn but not romantically involved with her.
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I’m on the secret path, but I can also kiss Erynn—unless it’s because of the photo shoot. That said, if I chose not to do the photo shoot, I would go straight to the Erynn friend path, but I chose to do it.
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I agree that it would be incredibly lame to have a surprise random guy or twin.
You will sacrifice so much story and drama potential for an empty, short term gotcha moment.
Since the players have already figured out who John is, use your gotcha moment for the reveal and maximum emotional impact. We can guess who he is but we can't predict exactly when, where and how it will be revealed.