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What made me happy about the Progress Update together with the update release being close, is the fact that she referred to Valeria path/route the same way she did with Nikki, Cara and Erynn paths, all official L.Is. Maybe there's a bit of hope for Val fans.
 

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Already talked about on a previous post... here comes the NTR panic lol.
Im here thinking what this scene is and which L.I will be on it and with who.
Since is choice based, I can only think on Layla after the bathtub scene, maybe is a sharing one with Sienna's boyfriend? But I can't see Layla being with someone else even with mc asking.
Erynn maybe? On the thing with Iris's dad? Maybe they will try to corner Ethan again and something will happen with her? But I have my doubts, since she has her traumas and Nyx would not give her another one imo.
Or can be with MCs mom if the player allowed her to date Iris father, MC comes home and he's doing her on the kitchen?
Val already told that she doesn't like Daryl, she doesn't like Zach and there's no choice I can remember that would led her to do something with someone else.
Or can be Nikki with a new boyfriend if MC had sex with that blonde I forgot the name.
My bet is on MCs mom.
 
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And here's the new one from 12 minutes ago.



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I hate the coding part of the whole process the most, along with spelling checks. There's some real spaghetti code going on again in this episode, but it seems to work? I'll know more once everything is done and I test all the paths.

All the post-render work is done. There are some scenes where I'm not that happy about the renders but it's too much to redo all of them. Also, I've noticed that the colours in photoshop are completely different than when I open the pictures in other apps. So renders turn out darker or lighter than how I see them photoshop. This is really annoying. Can't believe I haven't noticed that earlier. I looked it up if it's a setting on my screen or something else but it seems they use a different RGB spectrum. Nothing I can do about. So, I'm more or less guessing how the end product looks like.

I've already spellchecked everything and also corrected some more errors in previous episodes.

While coding and spellchecking, I'm not particularly happy about a few scenes. I mentioned in previous progress updates already that I want to make some changes in a few scenes, but that's for another time. It's probably because this update is so big and at the end, I just wanted to be done with it. It feels like some scenes don't have the quality I want them to have. They need to be longer because they feel a little disconnected. They jump too quickly from one thing to another. That's also a reason why I won't make this big of updates anymore. I want to concentrate more on each scene. They will still be big, but just not of this calibre. I hit my limit with this one and I think the quality will suffer if I continue like this. Next episode will only consist of one day (Monday back at school) and it will be released quicker. But more info about episode 14 after the release.

I made a big dent in the coding and I hope to finish everything this week. That includes the changes in the gallery, adding some sound files in certain scenes,... I also added and replaced the rework of the first day of episode 3. There is a new variable, but that variable is not used in later episodes so it won't break saves. I've tested it before I made the changes final.

There are 2 big animations in this episode which consist of a lot of renders. But I know that some people have issues loading them and it makes the game crash. That happened for example with the "throw Layla is the pool" animation. That's because I use single renders for animations instead of a movie file. And that's why I changed those 2 scenes into movie files and I hope it will prevent the crashing. I will also change the Layla throw to a movie file so that issue should be fixed. I will gradually change all the 'animations' into real animations but all of the sex scenes will get a makeover at some point. I'm happy with the scenes themself but the writing of those scenes is one of my weaknesses. At the moment it's mostly just the "Ahhh" and "moaning" and so on and it needs to have more. The problem is that I don't use narrative writing. It's a visual novel and you see what's happening instead of in a book where you have to picture it yourself by the description you're getting. And during sex you mostly don't talk much or at all. That's why there's not that much going on scriptwise in those scenes. So, I'm thinking about changing those scenes with narrative writing to make it more interesting. I will have to learn first how to write those type of scenes because I have no experience with it. Also I'll need better animations. Another weakness of mine. I don't think Daz (the program I use to create the renders) is the best to make animations. If anyone can point me in a direction with this, I'd greatly appreciate it. But let me know what you think about all this. I'll probably talk another time about all this and give examples what exactly I mean.

Back to this update. Again, depending on what paths you play, the update can be big or it can be small. Single routes are much smaller. You'll get the longest playtime if you are on one of these 2 routes: Alexis-Valeria-Nikki(Cara) or Erynn-Layla-Nikki(Cara). I think you can see almost all scenes with those 2 routes. I tested the first Erynn scene (the beach date) and timed it and that one took me one and a half hours (Normal reading speed) to finish. There are a few choice options and if you want to see all the changes in dialogue due to the choices, that time will increase even more. It's by far the biggest scene of the game.
There's also a scene which some people don't want to see. There's already a choice in the game which prevents this scene to happen but I gave you another "Skip this scene" option. So if you don't want to see that scene, skip it!
I wanted to talk about more things but I've forgotten it now. I should write these things down...

Anyway. ETA... If, and that's a big if, everything works out and there won't be some major issues, I finish everything this week, playtest early next week, I might have a release by the end of next week. Here's an issue what makes me question if I should release next week though. I won't be here between Xmas and New Years, even a week after New Years. So, if I release next week and there is a big error in the game which could break some routes, I won't be able to quick fix it. I will do it once I'm back and by that time, that bugged version will be everywhere and people's saves will be messed up and so on. I think you see where I'm going with this. I try my best to test as much as I can so that won't happen. But if I feel like it needs more testing, the ETA will move. Let me know what you think about this and I will let you know early next week what the ultimate date will be.
Its disappointing to see there is no mention about the progress with Elena... It just feels it was for no good...
 

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Im here thinking what this scene is and which L.I will be on it and with who.
Since is choice based, I can only think on Layla after the bathtub scene, maybe is a sharing one with Sienna's boyfriend? But I can't see Layla being with someone else even with mc asking.
Erynn maybe? On the thing with Iris's dad? Maybe they will try to corner Ethan again and something will happen with her? But I have my doubts, since she has her traumas and Nyx would not give her another one imo.
Or can be with MCs mom if the player allowed her to date Iris father, MC comes home and he's doing her on the kitchen?
Val already told that she doesn't like Daryl, she doesn't like Zach and there's no choice I can remember that would led her to do something with someone else.
Or can be Nikki with a new boyfriend if MC had sex with that blonde I forgot the name.
My bet is on MCs mom.
The line in discussion came right when Nyx was talking about going through the Erynn portion of the update...
There's also a scene which some people don't want to see. There's already a choice in the game which prevents this scene to happen but I gave you another "Skip this scene" option. So if you don't want to see that scene, skip it!
So i assumed it's with Erynn... maybe she's talking about something/someone else, but to me it still sounded like it was about Erynn.

Then valbitterb said he expects Erynn's ex-BF Zane (who due to recent info, coming from his siter Brooke, we know enjoys surfing and hanging out at the beach) to show up at the beach while we are with Erynn...
Connecting the dots this led me thinking... possibly a flashback to when they were together, perhaps including the sex scene...
This is something a few(maybe a lot) people would like to skip over.

But it's all speculation.
 

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Fingers crossed that the testing goes well and we have a release at the end of next week or before Christmas anyway. It would be an amazing present.

Back to this update. Again, depending on what paths you play, the update can be big or it can be small. Single routes are much smaller. You'll get the longest playtime if you are on one of these 2 routes: Alexis-Valeria-Nikki(Cara) or Erynn-Layla-Nikki(Cara). I think you can see almost all scenes with those 2 routes
I don't mind not seeing all of the content on a single playthrough or getting the maximum content. Personally I would rather do separate runs than do an Erynn-Layla-Nikki or Cara run, where I'm messing them all around. Playing that way makes me feel like shit, and yes I know it's not real but if you're not getting even slightly emotionally invested in the characters then what's the point of playing IMO?
At least playing separate paths I get something new to look forward to on each run.

Also I think that the scene that Nyx thinks players "may not want to see" I think relates to Emily and the player choice of allowing her to go on a date with John. Perhaps the date goes rather well and they end up in bed together. I can already hear the anti-NTR screams, even though that's his Mom.
 
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The line in discussion came right when Nyx was talking about going through the Erynn portion of the update...

So i assumed it's with Erynn... maybe she's talking about something/someone else, but to me it still sounded like it was about Erynn.
I think it is a possible flashback of probably Erynn's side of story something like the one with MC's mom or Iris one. Everytime, I wish to skip them for a more faster play but its unavoidable. Skip option would actually save time, If you know what happened.

More story then, lets go!!
 

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Do any of the ladies heavily involved with the MC in this update - Lexi/Layla/Erynn/Val - see us off at the airport? LSC82

Just like Nikki did (everything's Intertwined Dr.TSoni ),
will the lady seeing us off at the airport ask us about the trip and re: Nikki/Cara?

More multi-paths closing or starting to close
 
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Do any of the ladies heavily involved with the MC in this update - Lexi/Layla/Erynn/Val - see us off at the airport? LSC82

Just like Nikki did (everything's Intertwined Dr.TSoni ),
will the lady seeing us off at the airport ask us about the trip and re: Nikki/Cara?

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It's possible, driving the MC to the airport would be a typical Erynn thing, she just loves doing that.
Since she met Nikki/Cara it would also come into question if she asks "why are you going there?" and makes any demands.
Alexis would also agree to take us there, i think, i'm under the impression she has no knowledge of what we are up to with the sisters so maybe she can buy "i'm going to visit my buddy", while still being somewhat suspicious lol.

Layla and Val don't drive(as far as i'm aware) but can still go to see us leave.
Layla did see (and got jealous) about the MC with the coach's daughters, so potentially she can ask questions(PS: Perhaps Layla could have also put Alexis up to speed in between seeing us with Nikki/Cara and now).
Val did meet Nikki (and indentified a threat :devilish: ) but doesn't know anything about Cara... maybe a split in questioning the motivation for the trip ;).
 
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There's already a choice in the game which prevents this scene to happen
So i assumed it's with Erynn... maybe she's talking about something/someone else, but to me it still sounded like it was about Erynn.

Then @valbitterb said he expects Erynn's ex-BF Zane (who due to recent info, coming from his siter Brooke, we know enjoys surfing and hanging out at the beach) to show up at the beach while we are with Erynn...
Connecting the dots this led me thinking... possibly a flashback to when they were together, perhaps including the sex scene...
This is something a few(maybe a lot) people would like to skip over.

But it's all speculation.
You know I'm not that much of a type of speculator (especially regarding something that is still in development, things might always be changed and rewritten any second). But what's the harm in playing along a bit, if you let me. Anyway, I don't think it's about the beach date with Erynn. I mean, I'm kind of sure Nyx would not kill the whole DATE vibe by letting something like that happen when it comes to finally having something romantically big with Erynn. Not on this particular date, at least. If it's still connected with Erynn and based on a choice previously made in the game (whether the MC sticks to the plan or beats the shit out of Ethan and takes his phone), it might be Ethan's phone and the MC wanting us players to watch the videotape. And here's an option to skip watching it, if you are too fragile and sensitive about such things. I know I may be pretty bad at speculating, but that's something I can only think of now.
 
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You know I'm not that much of a type of speculator (especially regarding something that is still in development, things might always be changed and rewritten any second). But what's the harm in playing along a bit, if you let me to. Anyway, I don't think it's about the beach date with Erynn. I mean, I'm kind of sure Nyx would not kill the whole DATE vibe by letting something like that to happen when it comes to finally having something romantically big with Erynn. Not on this particular date, at least. If it's still connected with Erynn and based on a choice previously made in the game (whether the MC sticks to the plan or beats the shit out of Ethan and takes his phone), it might be Ethan's phone and the MC wanting us players to watch the videotape. And here's an option to skip watching it, if you are too fragile and sensitive about such things. I know I may be pretty bad at speculating, but that's something I can only think of now.
That's pretty good. I agree with that theory. That's a sensitive scene definitely.
 

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You know I'm not that much of a type of speculator (especially regarding something that is still in development, things might always be changed and rewritten any second). But what's the harm in playing along a bit, if you let me to. Anyway, I don't think it's about the beach date with Erynn. I mean, I'm kind of sure Nyx would not kill the whole DATE vibe by letting something like that to happen when it comes to finally having something romantically big with Erynn. Not on this particular date, at least. If it's still connected with Erynn and based on a choice previously made in the game (whether the MC sticks to the plan or beats the shit out of Ethan and takes his phone), it might be Ethan's phone and the MC wanting us players to watch the videotape. And here's an option to skip watching it, if you are too fragile and sensitive about such things. I know I may be pretty bad at speculating, but that's something I can only think of now.
Your theory is sound, this could be it.

The whole thing with Zane and a possible flashback, i guess i simply see it differently, it can be a moment where the MC and Erynn have an honest conversation and it brings them closer together rather than a downer, like getting over a big bump, something that has been holding her back and is in the back of the MC's mind as well.

And honestly i can see a scenario where we are both correct... we start exploring the phone with Erynn next to us, and when we click play the perspective changes from simply watching a screen to "inside the scene".
 
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If it's still connected with Erynn and based on a choice previously made in the game (whether the MC sticks to the plan or beats the shit out of Ethan and takes his phone), it might be Ethan's phone and the MC wanting us players to watch the videotape.
If we're going in the direction most people seem to assume, and it's someone else with an LI, this was my guess. It's the only one that makes sense to me.
 
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Your theory is sound, this could be it.

The whole thing with Zane and a possible flashback, i guess i simply see it differently, it can be a moment where the MC and Erynn have an honest conversation and it brings them closer together rather than a downer, like getting over a big bump, something that has been holding her back and is in the back of the MC's mind as well.

And honestly i can see a scenario where we are both correct... we start exploring the phone with Erynn next to us, and when we click play the perspective changes from simply watching a screen to "inside the scene".
Indeed. I doubt it would be all about having fun, flirting, kissing, touching... or most likely some even more lewd, steamy action. They are gonna have a deep conversation on their beach date. About stuff and about things that trigger Erynn or both. I mean, no one 100% knows where the conversation might lead. It might be Zane from her traumatic past, Ethan, or something or someone else. I just wanna be picturing the MC (with or without Erynn next to him) do it in his room, if we are talking about ''the phone'' hint from Nyx. Not on their date.

Everyone is assuming it's Zane and Erynn flashback, but here I am, thinking Val with Gym/Park guy.
Because if we are talking about Erynn, I guess the only choice that has been made earlier and has a variable to trigger a scene which some people don't want to see is taking Ethan's phone with the sex tape on it. The Valeria path doesn't have one. That simple.
 

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Because if we are talking about Erynn, I guess the only choice that has been made earlier and has a variable to trigger a scene which some people don't want to see is taking Ethan's phone with the sex tape on it. The Valeria path doesn't have one. That simple.
I mean nowhere in the dev log does it say the skippable scene is related to Erynn, only that it's a scene you had a chance to avoid. The MC already knows the sextape is on Ethan's phone, so why would he watch it again after snatching it?

Opting to not pursue Val would bypass the scenes where she gets her ass spanked in the gym and the guy picking her up asking "who's [MC]?" at the park, I wouldn't be shocked if the scene is related to Val having a partner and you discover them.
 

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I mean nowhere in the dev log does it say the skippable scene is related to Erynn, only that it's a scene you had a chance to avoid. The MC already knows the sextape is on Ethan's phone, so why would he watch it again after snatching it?

Opting to not pursue Val would bypass the scenes where she gets her ass spanked in the gym and the guy picking her up asking "who's [MC]?" at the park, I wouldn't be shocked if the scene is related to Val having a partner and you discover them.
Val doesn't seem like the kind of girl who would be kissing the MC if she had a partner/boyfriend. Especially given how she is so adamant that the MC breaks things off with Lexi, before she will continue doing stuff with him.
Unless you mean that she goes and gets a boyfriend IF the MC isn't on her path, possible I guess but I doubt it.
 

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Val doesn't seem like the kind of girl who would be kissing the MC if she had a partner/boyfriend. Especially given how she is so adamant that the MC breaks things off with Lexi, before she will continue doing stuff with him.
Unless you mean that she goes and gets a boyfriend IF the MC isn't on her path, possible I guess but I doubt it.
She comes across as a serial flirt to me. She tries to leverage hanging out with Darryl after the beach run to make MC jealous. She clearly seems unfazed by her gym buddy spanking her ass and her reaction after being picked up at the park and realising it's not MC seems to be she let something slip she shouldn't have, you only see these scenes on her path.

Perhaps she has a partner, flirted with MC, realised they share a lot of the same interests and caught some feelings. Just because she doesn't want to share MC with other girls, doesn't mean she is single herself.
 
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She comes across as a serial flirt to me. She tries to leverage hanging out with Darryl after the beach run to make MC jealous. She clearly seems unfazed by her gym buddy spanking her ass and her reaction after being picked up at the park and realising it's not MC seems to be she let something slip she shouldn't have, you only see these scenes on her path.

Perhaps she has a partner, flirted with MC, realised they share a lot of the same interests and caught some feelings. Just because she doesn't want to share MC with other girls, doesn't mean she is single herself.
I don't think that she was trying to make the MC jealous by telling him that she was going to the beach with Darryl plus others. I think that she was simply being honest about what her plans are. She even invites the MC to come, he says no as he doesn't think that hanging out with Darryl and his friends would be a good idea.
As for the gym guy I really don't know. The butt slap wasn't as big of a deal to me as it seems to have been to others, to me it just looked like playful banter, like the MC has with slapping Erynn's butt every chance he gets.
She even kicks him after, like a "hey, what do you think you're doing" and says "not going to happen" when he asks her to send him the selfie that she sent to the MC. That would be pretty strange behaviour if he was her boyfriend IMO.
 

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I mean nowhere in the dev log does it say the skippable scene is related to Erynn, only that it's a scene you had a chance to avoid. The MC already knows the sextape is on Ethan's phone, so why would he watch it again after snatching it?

Opting to not pursue Val would bypass the scenes where she gets her ass spanked in the gym and the guy picking her up asking "who's [MC]?" at the park, I wouldn't be shocked if the scene is related to Val having a partner and you discover them.
By the way the person is shown it is either, her stepfather or a close relative, also the spank is not in a "sexual" way it is just that something a elder brother would do just to tease, of course being fed all the time with this incest garbage, even inofensive things take another meaning , and that is all in the mind of the spectator.
 
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