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TonyMurray

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The part I don't get, is Emily clearly states when talking to Mel at her pool that it's not Mel's John. So either she is really confused or doesn't recognize him.
Unless I remember it wrong, Emily has never met "Melissa's John", so unless there are photos, she's only going by Mel's description of him. I just took it as her saying John and using "your John" to distinguish them, though it's a common enough name and with enough time passed that it's probably not necessary.
 

minibaer12

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nothing can beat monroe sisters (or half-sisters since not confirmed if both are from same father) telling to mc what a asshole he is unless it's lexi, erynn and iris beating mc at same time.
sorry, but I have to pull that tooth out of you. the most we get to read from a xy girl is a strong lecture and that's it.

I'm on the "disaster routes" and there was no physical violence anywhere!
 

Dessolos

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The part I don't get, is Emily clearly states when talking to Mel at her pool that it's not Mel's John. So either she is really confused or doesn't recognize him.
I assume doesn't recognize him I even got the impression the first time we heard about him in the flashback Mel would have a hard time to recognize him at first but would after a minute or 2. Since it seemed like a one night stand.
 

cooldevo

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U sure about that? I have 18 points with Val and John was the one who helped on my path. But could be because im dating Layla? Was still only friends with Erynn at that point so i don't think it has anything to do with her
The threshold as set out in the code:

Python:
if Erynn_Week3_Monday_Help == False:
    ...
else
    et "So, what's it gonna be? Help me, help Erynn."
    if Valeria_Points >= 13:
         $ Valeria_Week4_Friday_Help = True
         scene 09_1330 with vpunc
         ...
So perhaps a bug on your save? If you are helping Erynn and your Val points are 13 or more, it should trigger.

It's path independent unless I missed something somewhere.
 

jadepaladin

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Alexis is easy to avoid romance. Don't visit her on the plane and don't hang out with her at the bar. Even if you accidentally started romancing her there are LOTS of ways in the first few episodes to stop it, the easiest being tell all details to Zach at the bar. Further in, when you meet Layla at the Pizza restaurant tell her all details should also end it. There are a number of others as well...

For Layla, just avoid a few critical moments and manage the points you gain, and she'll never try to romance you. If you show interest in Val, she even offers twice to help set you up with her.

You do not need to be on Alexis' path to romance Val unless you are going for the Secret path. I've got 4 Val playthroughs, and on all of them, none of the LIs have tried to romance MC.
I can double check in just a bit but I'm pretty sure if you killed the romance with Alexis, MC doesn't call Val to check on her after the Ethan fight during the Cara/Nikki visit to Madison Springs (or during that same time period if neither of them came). It's only 2 Val points so pretty insignificant in the big picture but I thought it was weird that this scene that has nothing to do with Alexis has a flag related to her tied to it.
 

LoGyMW

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The threshold as set out in the code:

Python:
if Erynn_Week3_Monday_Help == False:
    ...
else
    et "So, what's it gonna be? Help me, help Erynn."
    if Valeria_Points >= 13:
         $ Valeria_Week4_Friday_Help = True
         scene 09_1330 with vpunc
         ...
So perhaps a bug on your save? If you are helping Erynn and your Val points are 13 or more, it should trigger.

It's path independent unless I missed something somewhere.
Hm, i honestly don't know. Either way, i was pretty content with how it went down with John although it may turn out that this John is Erynn's dad John witch would mean he kind of flirts with his daughter, even if it was just pretending, so that could turn out interesting
 

cooldevo

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I can double check in just a bit but I'm pretty sure if you killed the romance with Alexis, MC doesn't call Val to check on her after the Ethan fight during the Cara/Nikki visit to Madison Springs (or during that same time period if neither of them came). It's only 2 Val points so pretty insignificant in the big picture but I thought it was weird that this scene that has nothing to do with Alexis has a flag related to her tied to it.
That sounds like a bug or something then. I'm doing a Val playthrough right now, never dated Alexis, called after the Ethan incident (95% sure I did, did that part yesterday). Currently on the beach date, so a bit past there now unfortunately.
 

cooldevo

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I can double check in just a bit but I'm pretty sure if you killed the romance with Alexis, MC doesn't call Val to check on her after the Ethan fight during the Cara/Nikki visit to Madison Springs (or during that same time period if neither of them came). It's only 2 Val points so pretty insignificant in the big picture but I thought it was weird that this scene that has nothing to do with Alexis has a flag related to her tied to it.
That could be, as I've never started romancing Lexi unless it was a dedicated playthrough for her. I've just seen where all the offramps exist. I've always avoided other romances and keeping each save as a unique LI just in case weird bugs happen.
 
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NadaMucho

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Man I can't leave you guys alone at all. Just wanted a nice peaceful Saturday night rest and I come back to 10 more pages of y'all fools talking about everything that doesn't matter. Come on people lets get it together!

Elena - Intertwined - sayonara on top.jpg

Peace kids. :)
 
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cxx

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Man I can't leave you guys alone at all. Just wanted a nice peaceful Saturday night rest and I come back to 10 more pages of y'all fools talking about everything that doesn't matter. Come on people lets get it together!

Peace kids. :)
only 10? poor you, try 100+.
 
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Dessolos

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I'm not gonna call this a bug, maybe a continuity problem, but I just want to get it down and out of my head.
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Peace!
it seems to be a bug ive seen people mentioned there is a patch in the patron discord channel for it ( I dont got access), that happened to me on either my Val or Nikki path and I never did anything for Alexis to hate me
 
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Malicre

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Erynn's entire plot is dumb from the get go and she had enough drama/connection with the MC over their past without it. How many teachers do you know that did modelling in college? Especially the type she's doing. As much as I hate the blackmail plot, I just know it's gonna get resolved in some asinine way that will make me cringe harder than the "He's my dad's...friend!" at the start of Ep 13.

Oops Mav beat me to it. :ROFLMAO:
A lot of teachers even have onlyfans now and days. That entire blackmail plot has been nonsensical from the start.
 

Dessolos

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A lot of teachers even have onlyfans now and days. That entire blackmail plot has been nonsensical from the start.
yeah but also alot of teachers have been fire because of it. So I can understand the fear of the blackmail because of the career she wants at least until she did a topless modeling job...
 
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