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NebulousShooter

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Even English translations of Japanese results all mention relationships you just don't know the definition and have an idiotic idea that any sex not involving the MC is NTR when that's clearly not the case and you can't admit you are wrong.
There would not be works with moms, sister, or childhood crushes if the defining trait would be ongoing romantic relationship, any emotional attachment to characters that would subsequently lead to turmoil of the main character and by proxy the audience, be it self insert, or roleplay seems to qualify for the nippons. MC' school bully fucking his mom, regardless of the lack of incest is still a NTR story. But who are we kidding, we are going to argue semantics till kingdom come... For whatever reason the complainers about the complainers can't figure out that if you manage to avoid a tag, that doesn't mean shit, the person is not going to magically change his feelings about a scene/character.

If they tell you they hate apples, they are allergic to it, it makes them sick and then you come and show them that what they hate are not apples, are pears and you show them proof of that, what do you expect it will happen? Do you expect him to now be ok with eating apples(pears)? Enjoy them?

The only thing that matters is what is the narrative purpose of a scene, what is the target audience for a scene like that, what kinda emotional reactions is expected? You can call it whatever you want, NTR, voyeurism, the Easter Bunny. If I can accept the complainers are stupid, I at least expect the Japanese scholars educating others on the topic to understand this simple concept.

But, even if you have no problem, or hell, enjoy that sort of scene, I want you to admit to me that is a complete waste of dev time for this game, in the longest dev cycle so far, mind you.
'dRaMa wItH Quinn MeLlIssa', let me offer you a cost/time effective alternative with the exact same result in the story.
I went on a date with John, we hit it off so well that we ended up spending the night together. I didn't know he was your John, I am sorry!
Zero need for a fully animated sex scene and reading about his giant dick, but we all know it was done on purpose, to rile the exact people you are now trying to gaslight, downplay and Strowman.

Lmao :KEK: I would not be surprised if they report her Patreon for Incest out of spite, would I want it? No, its one of the few games I still keep up with, would I find it hilarious if they get enough reports to get a human review after she not only continued the incest baiting, but dialed it up in the last 2 episodes, with MC keep seeing her naked and starting to have impure thoughts, absolutely, Nyx and her petty joke is past the fuck around and find out threshold, especially with the new draconian Patreon rules.


Still not done with the update, but I knew I was gonna find a shit show after seeing the scene. :Kappa:Giving reddit karama to whoever teaches me how to fix the 'not defined' variable errors with URM, I don't want to start a new save every episode.
 
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I did NOT get a fucking choice, but that MAY just have been one of the 43 times the game bugs out in this update and I have to press "ignore" to continue.
Bugridden piece of shit ...
Go away no one wants your foolishness herZ ive found one bug in the whole game and nyx already fixed it. Is you name Karen and are you 11 years old?
 
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Not only can you skip the mom's sex scene, but you also have the option not to have sex altogether. If you still had to watch despite being given, two chances to avoid it, that's on you.

Finished the Alexis path, and meh. It's just all sex all the time. I know this is a sex game, but that shit gets boring after a while. You know that they have too much sex when Nyx has to give Alexis a period just to stop them from fucking, and even then, MC gets a blowjob. The only thing of interest is that Alexis's parents know Santi is Mc's father.
I disagree they make a great couple and their interactions are so much fun. Yes sex is a big part of their relationship but there is so much more there between them
 

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I see Andres as flawed. Sure he raised someone else's kid and that's a selfless act but he's also a womanizer and has a temper. We see him keep secrets from the MC, argue with the MC multiple times, and finally have a physical altercation with the MC that pretty much severs their relationship. Then there's the whole ultimatum thing with Emily that should never have happened in the first place. The fact you spot him in ep13 makes me think his role in the story isn't over yet, either.
I mean, Andres gave Emily an ultimatum, to stop contacting Santi and he'll raise her kid. He had zero right to ask that.

Then we get on to the cheating on Haley (probably Emily too), which all winds up in him assaulting MC.

Fuck that guy.
Are you two for real? The guy that's willing to help her raise her kid, doesn't get to set conditions?

"I'm willing to help you raise your kid, but I will only do so if I can raise him as my own"
"I'm willing to shelter and raise that same kid for 5 years on my own, even after we've broken up"

That guy?

The "I can't get you to actually fall in love with me, but I'm willing to basically do anything for you" guy retroactively gets turned into an asshole and a womaniser. Everything up to that point is Andres being a stand up guy, albeit clumsy in matters of romance at least when it comes to Emily.

Who after 12/13(?) years says he can't do it anymore, especially not with her seeing her baby daddy ex behind his back.

Even if what Emily says is true "I only met up with him to chat about the kid we had together, the kid he wanted nothing to do with. Not to bang him, okay?" that's still reasonable from Andres' side. I don't want you meeting up with the baby daddy who didn't want to raise the kid, she does anyway repeatedly, Andres conclusion "She's cheating on me", is true even if it is only in an emotional sense.

Compare that to the two others:
- Santi walks out on the relationship and the baby, providing literally no support in any way shape or form.
- Santi's parents show up to buy off Emily or tell her to get an abortion
- Emily is willing to start dating someone she has no romantic interest in just so he will help her out.
- Emily starts seeing her ex behind his back to "just talk about the child they have together" the bio dad has shown no interest in
- Emily who juggled two men and hooked up with Mel at the same time.
- Emily sends off her bio kid to her ex because she can't handle him herself. The ex who is not the bio dad and has broken up with her for the previous point.
- Emily is no contact with MC for those 5 years, save for 1 time she tried to see him. (revealed later)
- Emily who at the first opportunity throws "he's not your dad" in MCs face, after being 'caught' with Mel. (someone who raised a kid for 18 years, is far more of a dad than someone who walked out after he knocked someone up)
- Emily for who all reconciliation first comes from the MC. (it is the MC who initiates this every time, at least to my recollection. But this is a small point and I'm not sure about the accuracy)

Andres got swapped into someone else entirely with the cheating subplot. You don't go from raising someone else's kid, even without that person to "Oh yeah I'm just a womaniser who cheats on my new fiancee and punches the kid I raised as my own". I know Nyx frames it this way deliberately to make Emily look good, but from a neutral perspective based on the facts it really doesn't make a lick of sense.

I get that Andres is the less attractive and fun person out of the 3, but he is by far a better human being than Santi and Emily. At the very least far less selfish.
 
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There would not be works with moms, sister, or childhood crushes if the defining trait would be ongoing romantic relationship, any emotional attachment to characters that would subsequently lead to turmoil of the main character and by proxy the audience, be it self insert, or roleplay seems to qualify for the nippons. MC' school bully fucking his mom, regardless of the lack of incest is still a NTR story. But who are we kidding, we are going to argue semantics till kingdom come... For whatever reason the complainers about the complainers can't figure out that if you manage to avoid a tag, that doesn't mean shit, the person is not going to magically change his feelings about a scene/character.

If they tell you they hate apples, they are allergic to it, it makes them sick and then you come and show them that what they hate are not apples, are pears and you show them proof of that, what do you expect it will happen? Do you expect him to now be ok with eating apples(pears)? Enjoy them?

The only thing that matters is what is the narrative purpose of a scene, what is the target audience for a scene like that, what kinda emotional reactions is expected? You can call it whatever you want, NTR, voyeurism, the Easter Bunny. If I can accept the complainers are stupid, I at least expect the Japanese scholars educating others on the topic to understand this simple concept.

But, even if you have no problem, or hell, enjoy that sort of scene, I want you to admit to me that is a complete waste of dev time for this game, in the longest dev cycle so far, mind you.
'dRaMa wItH Quinn MeLlIssa', let me offer you a cost/time effective alternative with the exact same result in the story.
Zero need for a fully animated sex scene and reading about his giant dick, but we all know it was done on purpose, to rile the exact people you are now trying to gaslight, downplay and Strowman.

Lmao :KEK: I would not be surprised if they report her Patreon for Incest out of spite, would I want it? No, its one of the few games I still keep up with, would I find it hilarious if they get enough reports to get a human review after she not only continued the incest baiting, but dialed it up in the last 2 episodes, with MC keep seeing her naked and starting to have impure thoughts, absolutely, Nyx and her petty joke is past the fuck around and find out threshold, especially with the new draconian Patreon rules.


Still not done with the update, but I knew I was gonna find a shit show after seeing the scene. :Kappa:Giving reddit karama to whoever teaches me how to fix the 'not defined' variable errors with URM, I don't want to start a new save every episode.
You really put that much into that scene my god . Are you 11 years old? Everything you said is 100 percent off the track and shows you are unable to comprehend anything
 
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Dr.TSoni

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I get that Andres is the less attractive and fun person out of the 3, but he is by far a better human being than Santi and Emily. At the very least far less selfish.
I'm willing to bet that it was his parents who made him do it and Santi regrets having let himself be persuaded. In short, he will get away with it easily.
 

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I'm willing to bet that it was his parents who made him do it and Santi regrets having let himself be persuaded. In short, he will get away with it easily.
You're probably right, but I hope people here understand that even if that was the case. Santi still chose to do nothing for 18 years.

That's not a singular mistake that's 18 years of inaction. No matter how handsome, charming and successful he is. He shouldn't come off looking good in any way, shape or form.

But likely Nyx will frame this as "it's all the fault of Andres". So both Santi and Emily don't look like the actual shitty parents they are/were. (Emily obviously to a far lesser degree than Santi)
 

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I'm willing to bet that it was his parents who made him do it and Santi regrets having let himself be persuaded. In short, he will get away with it easily.
Even if that's true, Santiago was a child in a man's body who allowed himself to be controlled and made the wrong choice. He then proceeded to ignore his responsibilities for 18 years. He's a cunt.
 

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Are you two for real? The guy that's willing to help her raise her kid, doesn't get to set conditions?

"I'm willing to help you raise your kid, but I will only do so if I can raise him as my own"
"I'm willing to shelter and raise that same kid for 5 years on my own, even after we've broken up"

That guy?

The "I can't get you to actually fall in love with me, but I'm willing to basically do anything for you" guy retroactively gets turned into an asshole and a womaniser. Everything up to that point is Andres being a stand up guy, albeit clumsy in matters of romance at least when it comes to Emily.

Who after 12/13(?) years says he can't do it anymore, especially not with her seeing her baby daddy ex behind his back.

Even if what Emily says is true "I only met up with him to chat about the kid we had together, the kid he wanted nothing to do with. Not to bang him, okay?" that's still reasonable from Andres' side. I don't want you meeting up with the baby daddy who didn't want to raise the kid, she does anyway repeatedly, Andres conclusion "She's cheating on me", is true even if it is only in an emotional sense.

Compare that to the two others:
- Santi walks out on the relationship and the baby, providing literally no support in any way shape or form.
- Santi's parents show up to buy off Emily or tell her to get an abortion
- Emily is willing to start dating someone she has no romantic interest in just so he will help her out.
- Emily starts seeing her ex behind his back to "just talk about the child they have together" the bio dad has shown no interest in
- Emily who juggled two men and hooked up with Mel at the same time.
- Emily sends off her bio kid to her ex because she can't handle him herself. The ex who is not the bio dad and has broken up with her for the previous point.
- Emily is no contact with MC for those 5 years, save for 1 time she tried to see him. (revealed later)
- Emily who at the first opportunity throws "he's not your dad" in MCs face, after being 'caught' with Mel. (someone who raised a kid for 18 years, is far more of a dad than someone who walked out after he knocked someone up)
- Emily for who all reconciliation first comes from the MC. (it is the MC who initiates this every time, at least to my recollection. But this is a small point and I'm not sure about the accuracy)

Andres got swapped into someone else entirely with the cheating subplot. You don't go from raising someone else's kid, even without that person to "Oh yeah I'm just a womaniser who cheats on my new fiancee and punches the kid I raised as my own". I know Nyx frames it this way deliberately to make Emily look good, but from a neutral perspective based on the facts it really doesn't make a lick of sense.

I get that Andres is the less attractive and fun person out of the 3, but he is by far a better human being than Santi and Emily. At the very least far less selfish.
First, the only people we know who knows about Santi's parents offering money for an abortion are his parents and Emily. When he sees her on the beach after, she is mad at him and storms off with no explanation, to which he is clueless as to why.

How is Santi supposed to support his kid with Andres' ultimatum of Emily cutting him off? Especially after he has proven to be extremely jealous of Emily meeting Santi and updating him on their son.
 
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You're probably right, but I hope people here understand that even if that was the case. Santi still chose to do nothing for 18 years.

That's not a singular mistake that's 18 years of inaction. No matter how handsome, charming and successful he is. He shouldn't come off looking good in any way, shape or form.

But likely Nyx will frame this as "it's all the fault of Andres". So both Santi and Emily don't look like the actual shitty parents they are/were. (Emily obviously to a far lesser degree than Santi)
Even if that's true, Santiago was a child in a man's body who allowed himself to be controlled and made the wrong choice. He then proceeded to ignore his responsibilities for 18 years. He's a cunt.
Absolutely, even with this taste on the part of Nyx Santiago took a cowardly path by discharging his responsibilities
 
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Absolutely, even with this taste on the part of Nyx Santiago took a cowardly path by discharging his responsibilities
Heh, I'm also having a tough time understanding this debate about Andres. He and Santiago were rivals. When Santiago bails on Emily, Andres swoops in to pick up the pieces - just to get back at Santiago. The entire time he spent with her, pretending to be MC's dad and a loving husband was a lie. It's compounded by his demand that MC never know he isn't his real father. He's a bigger cunt than his buddy Santiago. Heh Don't even get me started on Emily. She made soooooooo many bad decisions. Santiago, Andres, agreeing to Andres lie, abandoning her son because of his bad behavior caused by her drinking problem and neglect... I have a hard time deciding who is the dumber "dumb blonde", Emily or Erynn. MC is surrounded by people who give meaning to the phrase, "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
 

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Heh, I'm also having a tough time understanding this debate about Andres. He and Santiago were rivals. When Santiago bails on Emily, Andres swoops in to pick up the pieces - just to get back at Santiago. The entire time he spent with her, pretending to be MC's dad and a loving husband was a lie. It's compounded by his demand that MC never know he isn't his real father. He's a bigger cunt than his buddy Santiago. Heh Don't even get me started on Emily. She made soooooooo many bad decisions. Santiago, Andres, agreeing to Andres lie, abandoning her son because of his bad behavior caused by her drinking problem and neglect... I have a hard time deciding who is the dumber "dumb blonde", Emily or Erynn. MC is surrounded by people who give meaning to the phrase, "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
It's probably due to the fact that the only intelligent people in town are Enzo and Adriana, not for nothing that they mind their own business without getting involved.
 
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