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I'm not saying they are (it's just the opposite), it was another poster that responded to my answer to someone else "1. Nyx can't allow incest due to Patreon, so there is no way Val and MC are half-siblings." with " Actually #1 is still debatable as they haven't done anything yet, they have been kissing sure, maybe gotten a little to close, but nothing that would be considered incest yet ".

What you're quoting is my post in the ongoing conversation with that person and saying IF they are (and I'm 1000% certain they're not) then what they're doing is incest and Patreon would punish the dev of this VN for posting story with incest on their website, thus the dev Nyx would not put incest into her story and would thus not create a path with Valeria.
I actually agree that Val and MC likely aren't related, all I'm contending is that with the information given in game we can't really say one way or the other.
 
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I think the plot in this story is getting messy or the author have lack of ideas how to proceed. For Eryn, how Ethan recorded that video, is Zane is involved in that (helped Ethan blackmail Eryn), why Eryn never questioned her self about the whole situation (it would be normal to be suspicious how that happened)... Little stupid is that one guy fucked hall town, have bunch of children and nobody know about it? Highly unlikely... Well, we still have to wait for some clarifications... but it's messy situation without resolve (at least normal one).
I dont see anything messy , nyx has a plan and its obvious she is setting up many things
 
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Hey guys and gals - I have been getting a lot of missing images in 13 this time around like this



Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/episode_13.rpy", line 322, in script
    if Alexis_Dated == True:
  File "game/episode_13.rpy", line 322, in <module>
    if Alexis_Dated == True:
NameError: name 'Alexis_Dated' is not defined

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Full traceback:
  File "game/episode_13.rpy", line 322, in script
    if Alexis_Dated == True:
  File "C:\Users\rlduc\Downloads\Mega\Intertwined-0.13-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 2133, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "C:\Users\rlduc\Downloads\Mega\Intertwined-0.13-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\rlduc\Downloads\Mega\Intertwined-0.13-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/episode_13.rpy", line 322, in <module>
    if Alexis_Dated == True:
NameError: name 'Alexis_Dated' is not defined

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There are a lot of these in this path and other paths - I used Scrappy's mod and without and it and the errors - Any help would be appreciated because I would hate to have to redo all the paths I have again - Thank you
I have no mods and have never gotten any of those errors
 

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I dont see anything messy , nyx has a plan and its obvious she is setting up many things
I think it's only messy if you go in to thinking of what you would do or would be smart to do. But if you have the mindset and realizing the characters not suppose to be smart or take it serious then I agree with it then it becomes less messy. Tho I also do think AVN's in general work best when you dont take them serious and just have a chill and relaxed mindset.

Only thing that is starting to be a bit messy for me now is with how Erynn is acting towards the MC in the last 2 updates. as it seems like the blackmail served it's purpose for me and Erynn is mostly past her trauma now when she is with the MC. So now I think it's time to end that storyline. and move on to something else like maybe a Lucas storyline with Layla for example and of course whatever the results is of the Val thing
 

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MC ending up with Erynn after putting Ethan behind jail for good for lifetime sentence with no parole, MC then takes Erynn to his high school senior prom and going all the way, then a possible timeskip where MC is a star athlete and Erynn being a top fashion model, announcing their 1st baby to the press, and Ethan is watching it from his jail cell, unalives himself
well maybe you get cured from your delusions one day.

I actually agree that Val and MC likely aren't related, all I'm contending is that with the information given in game we can't really say one way or the other.
they are half siblings all since mc's daddy has spread his seed everywhere.
 
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What makes you think that Val and MC are siblings though? Its pretty clear that Val's mom is Ximena. It is unlikely that Santi banged Ximena in the past and put a baby into her around the same time he did it to Emily since Val and MC are of the same age. Unless Santi in the past really does go around banging and impregnating every chick in the city and then dumping them and moving to the next lol which i guess is possible but unlikely i think. If anything, if you banged Gabi that would make it so you basically banged your stepmom since it would seem that Gabi is Santi's wife (soon to be ex-wife probably) but i don't think Nyx will go for that. After all, she likes to tease us with potential incestuous relationships but we all know nothing will ever come of it, since she confirmed early on no incest, its just teasing for the sake of plot and potential drama. But at this point we just don't know who Val's dad is yet, its all just speculation
Val's parents are a big mystery.

Val's mom is the same age as Emily, as both got pregnant right out of high school. Let's say she's 37. Ximena has been heavily hinted as a possibility (even by the script), but her age is the problem:

- Gabi and Ximena are friends that have known each other for over 10 years.
- Layla guesses Gabi's age as something around 30
- MC guesses Ximena's age as late 20s, early 30s
- when Gabi was around MC's age Santiago was already a working adult

The only way Ximena is Val's mom is if she looks really young for her age, and she wasn't Gabi's college friend.

Her dad is unknown as well. He surfs: Valeria mentions he has a few surfboards at home. He has his own place in MS and he and Val's mom were never married but are still in an amicable relationship. I can't think of anyone who has a surfboard at home.

I mean, purely theoretically Santiago x Ximena is a possibility: they banged 19 years ago and didn't marry but remained friends. Several years later Santiago married Gabi and introduced her to his daughter and her mother. They, surprisingly, became good friends despite an age gap. But I now think it's a bit of a stretch.
 

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The only link we have with surfing currently is knowing Zane is a surfer, I guess that could mean Val is Zane and Brooke's half-sister (if Zane learned how to surf through his Dad) but I'm not sure that would be much of an interesting link.
 

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Her dad is unknown as well. He surfs: Valeria mentions he has a few surfboards at home. He has his own place in MS and he and Val's mom were never married but are still in an amicable relationship. I can't think of anyone who has a surfboard at home.
I think the bit of information that we get about Val's dad who "likes to surf" and has a few surfboards at home, will be the link between her and Zane (Mr Donovan)
No way that Nyx gave us that little bit of information for no reason. We see Zane at the beach with a surfboard a few times now and I believe that Zane and Val's dad could be buddies, likely through surfing. This for me explains the "off-limits" comment that Zane says to his friend when he's drooling over Val at the beach.
It could be that he says that she's "off-limits" as her intern teacher at the moment and I get why that would apply to him, but why his friend? I can certainly understand why a buddies daughter would be off-limits.
I think that it's possible that given what happened to her with Noah, her dad asked him to train with her and look out for her.
 
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Val's parents are a big mystery.

Val's mom is the same age as Emily, as both got pregnant right out of high school. Let's say she's 37. Ximena has been heavily hinted as a possibility (even by the script), but her age is the problem:

- Gabi and Ximena are friends that have known each other for over 10 years.
- Layla guesses Gabi's age as something around 30
- MC guesses Ximena's age as late 20s, early 30s
- when Gabi was around MC's age Santiago was already a working adult

The only way Ximena is Val's mom is if she looks really young for her age, and she wasn't Gabi's college friend.

Her dad is unknown as well. He surfs: Valeria mentions he has a few surfboards at home. He has his own place in MS and he and Val's mom were never married but are still in an amicable relationship. I can't think of anyone who has a surfboard at home.

I mean, purely theoretically Santiago x Ximena is a possibility: they banged 19 years ago and didn't marry but remained friends. Several years later Santiago married Gabi and introduced her to his daughter and her mother. They, surprisingly, became good friends despite an age gap. But I now think it's a bit of a stretch.
Ximena is best a stepmom which I doubt anyway, she would have to be at least 35ish to be an actual mom, she looks the same as Gabi pretty much age-wise, and she is around 30 years old. She was too young to be an actual mom in the TV show as well. Plus Val's mom knows what MC looks like (photo plus car scene), if she was Ximena she would've instantly recognized him at the restaurant.
 

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I do wonder if Nyx is waiting for some big event to finally make her go after what she wants? To commit to a relationship?

Ethan going down? Finding her family? Coming to terms with the Zane break up? Something still related to the MC leaving?
I had hoped that MC saying that Erynn was his girlfriend at the Beach Date volleyball scene would have clearly started that ball rolling. Feels like a missed opportunity where the MC says "She's mine", not "She's my girlfriend" as the option implied with a choice of "Friends" or "Girlfriend". Seemed like a great spot like the Lexi girlfriend dare scene....

At the photoshoot with Erynn, she seemed surprised Zane was supposed to be the male model and sort of shrugged it off. I didn't catch any remorse or interest vibes from Erynn that she might still be into, or confused about, Zane. But that could be at play. It's entirely possible that Ethan blackmail, MC abandoning her, and the Zane "trauma" (for lack of better word) have all piled up to make her gun shy. :coffee:
 
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The outlook of a combo run is also completely different...
If you have Nikki solo, Nikki is moving to Madison Springs, that's great.
If you have Nikki on a messy combo... Oh shit Nikki is moving to Madison Springs...

A different kind of fun lol.
Don't forget Cara is also coming to MS with Nikki. If I recall it's just a trip when Nikki visits MSU. So things could get spicy there too. Issues with either of them could cause both to no longer like the MC. "Cheating on my sister?" type of conversation.

Nate, he probably won't cause any issues other than get some popcorn if things go sideways.

Lakeyn has also moved back to start her own shop. There are some interesting/humerous MC thoughts if you slept with her after being tattooed, and end up dating Alexis or Layla.

Have to see if Mira, I think the only one left, decides to also move. Especially if you said you liked her instead of just friends.

On a side note with Lakeyn, I do hope that no more tattoos are forced though. I'm not a fan of the side torso design at all. Did I miss where they explain who the ladies face is in it? It's so prominent, and they spend so much time at the beginning talking about the tattoo that you'd have thought they'd explain the face. Just a random person? The arm I can understand, as it gives me the 'Day of the Dead' holiday feel which jives with his Latin/Spanish roots.
 

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Don't forget Cara is also coming to MS with Nikki. If I recall it's just a trip when Nikki visits MSU. So things could get spicy there too. Issues with either of them could cause both to no longer like the MC. "Cheating on my sister?" type of conversation.

Nate, he probably won't cause any issues other than get some popcorn if things go sideways.

Lakeyn has also moved back to start her own shop. There are some interesting/humerous MC thoughts if you slept with her after being tattooed, and end up dating Alexis or Layla.

Have to see if Mira, I think the only one left, decides to also move. Especially if you said you liked her instead of just friends.

On a side note with Lakeyn, I do hope that no more tattoos are forced though. I'm not a fan of the side torso design at all. Did I miss where they explain who the ladies face is in it? It's so prominent, and they spend so much time at the beginning talking about the tattoo that you'd have thought they'd explain the face. Just a random person? The arm I can understand, as it gives me the 'Day of the Dead' holiday feel which jives with his Latin/Spanish roots.
don't want to ruin your fun, but both tattoos are pretty much your basic DAZ assets that have no particular meaning. I've seen both of them in other games.
 
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Don't forget Cara is also coming to MS with Nikki. If I recall it's just a trip when Nikki visits MSU. So things could get spicy there too. Issues with either of them could cause both to no longer like the MC. "Cheating on my sister?" type of conversation.

Nate, he probably won't cause any issues other than get some popcorn if things go sideways.

Lakeyn has also moved back to start her own shop. There are some interesting/humerous MC thoughts if you slept with her after being tattooed, and end up dating Alexis or Layla.

Have to see if Mira, I think the only one left, decides to also move. Especially if you said you liked her instead of just friends.

On a side note with Lakeyn, I do hope that no more tattoos are forced though. I'm not a fan of the side torso design at all. Did I miss where they explain who the ladies face is in it? It's so prominent, and they spend so much time at the beginning talking about the tattoo that you'd have thought they'd explain the face. Just a random person? The arm I can understand, as it gives me the 'Day of the Dead' holiday feel which jives with his Latin/Spanish roots.
and there is a Nikki Secret Path on a Cara path too!
 
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I had hoped that MC saying that Erynn was his girlfriend at the Beach Date volleyball scene would have clearly started that ball rolling. Feels like a missed opportunity where the MC says "She's mine", not "She's my girlfriend" as the option implied with a choice of "Friends" or "Girlfriend". Seemed like a great spot like the Lexi girlfriend dare scene....

At the photoshoot with Erynn, she seemed surprised Zane was supposed to be the male model and sort of shrugged it off. I didn't catch any remorse or interest vibes from Erynn that she might still be into, or confused about, Zane. But that could be at play. It's entirely possible that Ethan blackmail, MC abandoning her, and the Zane "trauma" (for lack of better word) have all piled up to make her gun shy. :coffee:
I was 100% hoping for something like that on the "girlfriend/friend" choice.
To me it felt like "this is the moment" upon making that choice, but it doesn't do anything.
And looking at the game's internal tracking there's nothing there either, no flag saying you picked the GF option and not even a points gain connected to that choice.
It ended up being a fluff/cosmetic choice which is not how it felt when i saw that option, it definitely undervalues the moment.

Sex with Zane is what marks the beggining of her current situation...
Having sex led to her to losing him and ending up on Ethan's hand...
Maybe Erynn needs some reinforcing that she did nothing wrong and it wasn't her fault, and there's no reason to be afraid of commitment or sex...
It sounds obvious, but maybe on some level Erynn ties these things together, kinda "if i do this... it will happen again" type deal.

She runs into Zane at the beach and seems completely fine(despite the fact she looked shocked upon seeing him) afterwards, if anything she feels even more confident and "forward" when we meet her later(bathtub scene).

I highly doubt that meeting led to some heart to heart between them, the "you did nothing wrong" i was talking about, it was probably just a "hey how have you been..." type deal.
Erynn doesn't bring up meeting with him in the next scene (in big part because Nyx is still trying to keep him a mistery, despite his identity being obvious), but i hope she does in the future/soon.
Running into/having a small chit-chat with your old BF sounds like something you should mention to your new BF(even if it's not official).

Don't forget Cara is also coming to MS with Nikki. If I recall it's just a trip when Nikki visits MSU. So things could get spicy there too. Issues with either of them could cause both to no longer like the MC. "Cheating on my sister?" type of conversation.

Nate, he probably won't cause any issues other than get some popcorn if things go sideways.

Lakeyn has also moved back to start her own shop. There are some interesting/humerous MC thoughts if you slept with her after being tattooed, and end up dating Alexis or Layla.

Have to see if Mira, I think the only one left, decides to also move. Especially if you said you liked her instead of just friends.
I think next week they are just visiting, not staying for good, they have plans to move into town but we don't know how long that will take.
If Cara ends up enlisting at our school, which i don't see why not once she's moved in, she can play the role of keeping an eye on the MC even if we are on a Nikki route, which would make relationships with Layla, Elena, Valeria "unsafe".

Lakeyin seems supportive of her cousins and won't present problems, it still could lead to a humorous scene with either one.
Maybe a quick fuck for old times sake on a save where you never had anything with either sister...

and there is a Nikki Secret Path on a Cara path too!
This is news to me... but i hope so.

I also hope they come into town even with no relationship, perhaps with an option to "reignite the flame", if we are on good terms that is lol.
There's a variation on the airport meeting, if can be happy and friendly or angry(happens you took the "Julia" option).
 
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I agree, it's getting to a weird territory... she no longer feels any shyness about showing her body and being together naked... and it's not even the dude pushing for more and Erynn hitting the brakes. She's the one that invites him into the bathroom and into the bathtub... both times she's the one that innitiated bathroom activities.

But if things go to more than that... somehow that's a problem.
And she's afraid to say the word boyfriend...

Those are things my male brain can't grasp, someone who is willing to drive 80% of the road... but not 100%
But Nyx is a woman and sometimes women have weird hang ups i don't get...
It's about the illusion of control. She feels she has no control when the MC initiates, but feels in control when she's the one who initiates.

Granted that logically speaking this is quite silly, feelings wise it makes sense though. "I'm the one doing it, therefore I can stop this at any time I want.". In reality there's nothing preventing your partner from taking over at any point and steering the interaction.
 
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So I just replayed the Erynn content from this update my god I forgot how cute she is during the beach date especially with the whole checking out how tall she is compared to the MC.

But anyways after replaying it. Don't know if it's just me but I really hated how the MC "distracted" Erynn during their volleyball match. I mean I don't like how he was using the "love" worth to mess with her to begin with as we know it's a big deal for Erynn. But I felt like if he was going to fuck her just say "I love you" instead of almost saying then saying something else. Might just me but I felt like if he said it would of created a good opportunity to talk about it or move their relationship more forward afterwards or in another update update could bring it up in a relationship talk right before they make things official.

As well with the MC should of said she is his girlfriend instead of saying she is just mine. Because like what LSC82 said it does feel like a choice that wouldn't matter and there just for variety. Also if I recall correctly in one of the early chapters when the MC goes shopping if you don't correct the store clerk he actually says he is her girlfriend. ( correct me if im wrong dont have a save to check myself right now)

Also is Erynn not living at her apartment anymore now School is back in session? I recall the plan was to originally just stay with Mel during break but she goes back to her apartment just for her books and says she will be back in the evening.

for fun here are some of my favorite Erynn Renders during the date probably missed a few as I forgot to take them while playing so did a quick ctrl skip haha.

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She can look scary sometimes


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So I just replayed the Erynn content from this update my god I forgot how cute she is during the beach date especially with the whole checking out how tall she is compared to the MC.

But anyways after replaying it. Don't know if it's just me but I really hated how the MC "distracted" Erynn during their volleyball match. I mean I don't like how he was using the "love" worth to mess with her to begin with as we know it's a big deal for Erynn. But I felt like if he was going to fuck her just say "I love you" instead of almost saying then saying something else. Might just me but I felt like if he said it would of created a good opportunity to talk about it or move their relationship more forward afterwards or in another update update could bring it up in a relationship talk right before they make things official.

As well with the MC should of said she is his girlfriend instead of saying she is just mine. Because like what LSC82 said it does feel like a choice that wouldn't matter and there just for variety. Also if I recall correctly in one of the early chapters when the MC goes shopping if you don't correct the store clerk he actually says he is her girlfriend. ( correct me if im wrong dont have a save to check myself right now)

Also is Erynn not living at her apartment anymore now School is back in session? I recall the plan was to originally just stay with Mel during break but she goes back to her apartment just for her books and says she will be back in the evening.

for fun here are some of my favorite Erynn Renders during the date probably missed a few as I forgot to take them while playing so did a quick ctrl skip haha.

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You could add these ones to the cute or scary folder Des. :love:
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I think this above is why I feel like it's one step forwards and two steps back with Erynn sometimes unfortunately. They are both still running scared from their true feelings for each other.
Saying stuff like this feels like being friend zoned and noone wants that!
Like I said before, I see no reason why we can't deal with the Ethan situation while having Erynn as the MC's girlfriend.
I hope that we don't get a situation where Erynn is going to want to put the brakes on things while she is doing the internship at the MC's school. As she will be the MC's teacher for a while, if my assumption is correct about her "surprise"
 
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