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desmosome

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It ain't bad. Dialogue flows naturally like actual humans talking. The plot seems to be about as generic as you can get, but hey, the same shit done right is still a decent read.
 
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He clearly states future releases will be Patreon exclusive, that kind of rules out incest as an option.
Then it is a horrible tease to have us looking down the mom's shirt if there won't be any incest.

Girls are very hot, I already love Alexis.
Well, joining the mile high club will always make me like a woman.

It ain't bad. Dialogue flows naturally like actual humans talking. The plot seems to be about as generic as you can get, but hey, the same shit done right is still a decent read.
Yep! Overall the language isn't terrible engrish, the characters seem realistic, and I want to bang Melissa. So checks all the boxes for me. :)

I hope we aren't forced into any relationships or sexual situations past Alexis, a VN should allow the player to make choices about who they want to screw and pursue.

Not a lot of content though, nice set up but if you want to tease people and get them to sign up for a patreon the "free taste" needs to be longer and contain more. More choices, more conversations with dialogue the player can choose, more animations.

I am not a fan of the grainy quality of the renders, the game would look and feel better without it. The assets are all the same as every asset in every game before this, nothing stands out as good or bad.
 
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Well, speaking of Emily the mom, the whole dialogue and "checking out" option to look into her cleavage, are obviously hinting at a possible incest route with her, even without a patch, the very first version addresses her as "(mom) Emily" and she is clearly acting as a caring mother towards the MC instead of the typical landlady.

So, although there is no incest action yet, I personally think it would be pretty safe to add an "incest" tag, if not now after the next hint.

I mean, it could stay a tease as it is, just like Dandy Boy Mother used to be originally, until many people and patreons alike started asking for incest content and she became the most beloved character in the cast. In the end, if the dev wanted to stay clear of incest alltogether, he could have made the mc orphan or never be able to get in contact with her, or simply not offering that check out option to look into her cleavage. So, those teases I see as potential "Do you want to request an incest route?"

Which is totally fine and nothing prevents the dev from stripping that content from the official version (when and if he will add that incest route) and offering it as incest patch via other sites (just like steam porn games requiring a patch from the creator sites to enable their full content).
 

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Well, speaking of Emily the mom, the whole dialogue and "checking out" option to look into her cleavage, are obviously hinting at a possible incest route with her, even without a patch, the very first version addresses her as "(mom) Emily" and she is clearly acting as a caring mother towards the MC instead of the typical landlady.

So, although there is no incest action yet, I personally think it would be pretty safe to add an "incest" tag, if not now after the next hint.

I mean, it could stay a tease as it is, just like Dandy Boy Mother used to be originally, until many people and patreons alike started asking for incest content and she became the most beloved character in the cast. In the end, if the dev wanted to stay clear of incest alltogether, he could have made the mc orphan or never be able to get in contact with her, or simply not offering that check out option to look into her cleavage. So, those teases I see as potential "Do you want to request an incest route?"

Which is totally fine and nothing prevents the dev from stripping that content from the official version (when and if he will add that incest route) and offering it as incest patch via other sites (just like steam porn games requiring a patch from the creator sites to enable their full content).
It would be a crime to not have incest in this set up, but having a prominently featured mom who is actually just a mom would be quite fresh also heh.

At least the dev avoided the stupid ass internal monologue we would expect from the "check her out" option. 'Oh my god.. mom has amazing tits... bla bla.' It was sort of a test for me to see if this game goes beyond the typical 5th grade level writing seen in these kinds of set ups.

If there is incest, it will probably be done a bit better than what we normally see.
 

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After the overview I had feared the worst. But for me it was surprisingly good, nice render graphics, good, natural conversations of the characters, for a first version/demo really ok. Of course the plot is nothing new, but well done for now. All in all, this was not a bad start.

As already mentioned: the info on Patreon is rather daunting at the moment, this should be changed immediately. On the one hand the dev describes himself as a beginner, and then there are already tiers up to $100 and goals for 2000 patrons...that doesn't sound very conclusive.
 

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It would be a crime to not have incest in this set up, but having a prominently featured mom who is actually just a mom would be quite fresh also heh.

At least the dev avoided the stupid ass internal monologue we would expect from the "check her out" option. 'Oh my god.. mom has amazing tits... bla bla.' It was sort of a test for me to see if this game goes beyond the typical 5th grade level writing seen in these kinds of set ups.

If there is incest, it will probably be done a bit better than what we normally see.
Can't agree more, I also hate when mothers in most games are degraded into secret nymphomaniacs and the MC is a phsichic able to read their inner dirty thoughts even before the player itself is sufficently warmed up.

The secret is, treat incest cast characters as if they are totally optional, in the sense that they act and behave like normal family until you the MC start messing things up, from there, depending on the character personality, they will be less or more inclined to give in or be outright reluctant at first, based on the writing, with numerous up and downs.

And whenever you wish to have a non incest playthrough (in games that allow multiple routes and/or open-world) they will just keep going as the loving and caring family they always are.
 

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Can't agree more, I also hate when mothers in most games are degraded into secret nymphomaniacs and the MC is a phsichic able to read their inner dirty thoughts even before the player itself is sufficently warmed up.

The secret is, treat incest cast characters as if they are totally optional, in the sense that they act and behave like normal family until you the MC start messing things up, from there, depending on the character personality, they will be less or more inclined to give in or be outright reluctant at first, based on the writing, with numerous up and downs.

And whenever you wish to have a non incest playthrough (in games that allow multiple routes and/or open-world) they will just keep going as the loving and caring family they always are.
For now, I think this mom would be secret nymphomaniacs.
Edit: not that I mind.
 
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Despite the most generic setup (only thing missing are two sisters), this was actually pretty good. Good models, the one animation was kinda weird but whatever and the Mc that looks his age and acts like a normal person, not a perv that hasn´t kissed a girl in his life.
 
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Despite the most generic setup (only thing missing are two sisters), this was actually pretty good. Good models, the one animation was kinda weird but whatever and the Mc that looks his age and acts like a normal person, not a perv that hasn´t kissed a girl in his life.
It just needs a bit more if the Dev expects people to pledge $25/month for the next installments. Unless they are putting content out monthly they are asking for a large amount of money for a first time developer. At $10/month in 6 months you might get 2 to 3 updates for 60 bucks, if they put out 2 updates in 6 months then the subscriber has paid them $150. It's not a good value right now based on one release.
 

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It just needs a bit more if the Dev expects people to pledge $25/month for the next installments. Unless they are putting content out monthly they are asking for a large amount of money for a first time developer. At $10/month in 6 months you might get 2 to 3 updates for 60 bucks, if they put out 2 updates in 6 months then the subscriber has paid them $150. It's not a good value right now based on one release.
It's not a good value anytime not just now. The competitors (I'm talking about top tier games that release every 1-3 months) are offered $20 or less for full early release. You have to be real good or very unique/niche to beat them with $25.
 

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It's not a good value anytime not just now. The competitors (I'm talking about top tier games that release every 1-3 months) are offered $20 or less for full early release. You have to real good or very unique/niche to beat them with $25.
True! I was being too gentle. The game would be worth $10 if the developer has a set release schedule that they have proven they can adhere to (after 2-3 releases). $25 is a cash grab. They really expect, based on this first offering, that people are going to send them $25/month when they could spread that out among other proven, top tier developers? That is too optimistic. This is a positive start but I fear it could be a candidate for abandonment.
 
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True! I was being too gentle. The game would be worth $10 if the developer has a set release schedule that they have proven they can adhere to (after 2-3 releases). $25 is a cash grab. They really expect, based on this first offering, that people are going to send them $25/month when they could spread that out among other proven, top tier developers? That is too optimistic. This is a positive start but I fear it could be a candidate for abandonment.
Judging by those prices and "Last offer" sentence used by the dev, I guess he is probably new into all of this and despite his work being promising enough, he should set his expectations accordingly, possibly by reading this chat or watching the little number of patreons if only money talks.

Last thing I'd want, is to have a new potential dev burning out because of his excessive eagerness and/or unrealistic expectations. I hope he will read this thread and take all the valuable feedback into consideration, its just the beginning, no harm into changing things.
 

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Judging from those prices and "Last offer" sentence used by the dev, I guess he is probably new into all of this and despite his work being promising enough, he should set his expectations accordingly, possibly by reading this chat or watching the little number of patreons if only money talks.

Last thing I'd want, is to have a new potential dev burning out because of his excessive eagerness and/or unrealistic expectations. I hope he will read this thread and take all the valuable feedback into consideration, its just the beginning, no harm into changing things.
Agreed, I want to see more games succeed. We've had quite a few promising games abandoned or put on hold because of overly optimistic expectations on the part of developers. Whether it's because they thought a bunch of people would eagerly embrace the game or overestimated the amount of time they could devote to the project. This game has potential but the developer should be approaching it as a labor of love/hobby and not as a way to make money. Which is why I suggested that the developer release the second update (and possibly third) for free and have as much or more content as in this initial post.
 

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Judging by those prices and "Last offer" sentence used by the dev, I guess he is probably new into all of this and despite his work being promising enough, he should set his expectations accordingly, possibly by reading this chat or watching the little number of patreons if only money talks.

Last thing I'd want, is to have a new potential dev burning out because of his excessive eagerness and/or unrealistic expectations. I hope he will read this thread and take all the valuable feedback into consideration, its just the beginning, no harm into changing things.
Let's hope so because I believe this game will be more interesting later if he keep up his pace.
 

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Lookin through it looks like this might contain incest later, plus there was definatly hints dropped in the shirt seen and the way mom grabbed his shoulder and asked if he wanted something else to eat! Plus the opening car scene when the mothers mentioned his step-family it seemed hint full to...but could easily include content patches later if issues arise, and learns to do so as its their first project. Gott say if it truly is, the quality is pretty high, tho the current update is to short to make a good enough guess for pledge
 
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