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lmfao at some of these comments a few pages back, they on their high horse saying erynn has done so wrong and is such a bad person just because she went and spoke to her friends after the confession? what??? and to top it off, they are surprised that it affects the relationship with her BEST FRIEND when they decide to just ignore erynn and let her get beaten up by some geezer.. bro, if we are talking about morals right now its definitelly not erynn who is in the wrong when some of you are doing shit like this. So she deserves to get beaten and blackmailed and you dont care because when you was 12 and she was 15 or 16 she talked to a couple of friends after you confessed your feelings..... and not only that but she is in the wrong and you're a saint lmfao.. i cant
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She never appologised TO HER BFF after hummiliating him in front of her friends,
that is the hurt MC is feling. Alexis went alone to tell MC he was right, while Eyrinn stood there laughing.
Eyrinn forgot about MC, so Mc on his birthday wanted her for once to come hang with him,
but no, she was already hanging with her new found friends, while her BFF was hummiliated by her friends.
She was supposed to go after her BFF and be with him, but she chose Ethan and his clique.
That was hurtful as heck. So she was very wrong to take MC for granted, this stupid lil boy she taunted,
because she only went asking for him after her friends were done with her.
It is never easy to be a BFF of a girl who ignores you for some other friends she has,
only sees you when thjose others are not looking, like she is ashamed you exist.
MC aslways feels he is second rate ignore pitty fodder to her as she kicks him out to ”think”,
then she just tells him the horrible life she has but she keeps at it.
MC is feeling worthless forgotten lil kid to her she just cannot take seriouely enough to matter.
and the sha,me she still spends time with ethan standing him up, the same way she did starting this whole ordeal. She kept going after ethan for whatever reason, treating MC like second rate.
So yeah, it is still hurtful, MC has to keep being understanding and eat up all her antics.
For a BFf, this is still horrible way to live and pretend you mean anything to her.
She treats him like a toy she hugs to feel cuddly then she throws him away and goes back to ethan
and the blackmail job.
that is the hurt MC is feling. Alexis went alone to tell MC he was right, while Eyrinn stood there laughing.
Eyrinn forgot about MC, so Mc on his birthday wanted her for once to come hang with him,
but no, she was already hanging with her new found friends, while her BFF was hummiliated by her friends.
She was supposed to go after her BFF and be with him, but she chose Ethan and his clique.
That was hurtful as heck. So she was very wrong to take MC for granted, this stupid lil boy she taunted,
because she only went asking for him after her friends were done with her.
It is never easy to be a BFF of a girl who ignores you for some other friends she has,
only sees you when thjose others are not looking, like she is ashamed you exist.
MC aslways feels he is second rate ignore pitty fodder to her as she kicks him out to ”think”,
then she just tells him the horrible life she has but she keeps at it.
MC is feeling worthless forgotten lil kid to her she just cannot take seriouely enough to matter.
She never said sorry, never appologised, MC was the one who had to eat all those years of hurt
and the sha,me she still spends time with ethan standing him up, the same way she did starting this whole ordeal. She kept going after ethan for whatever reason, treating MC like second rate.
So yeah, it is still hurtful, MC has to keep being understanding and eat up all her antics.
For a BFf, this is still horrible way to live and pretend you mean anything to her.
She treats him like a toy she hugs to feel cuddly then she throws him away and goes back to ethan
and the blackmail job.
Canto, I said it before and do so again. Seems like you are one of those who need to hear stuff several times before it finally reaches its destination.
Just stop commenting the same bullshit over and over AND over again.
- Feb 21, 2021
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ok you just mentioned the same thing about 5 times making it seem like she done so much wrong when in reality its the same thing, she went to see him after it and was not allowed to see him... so that point is irrelevant tbh. She didnt know he thought she was laughing at him.. plus the person being confessed to would need more time to think it over whereas alexis who did do a nice thing by going and seeing him had nothing to do with it and nothing to think over so she was obviously clear headed and could just go see him straight away...
why would she need to apologize? he was the one who got it all wrong.. she sent him letters about it too and for all you know could of apologized in them even though she really doesnt need to.
she literally defends the mc to ethan, tells him to leave him alone, says she wont speak to him anymore if he keeps doing it.. thats the convo she is having instead of not going to talk to the mc... but to you that means she is choosing him over the mc? ehhhhh ok? i feel like some of you dont read what is being written.. or choose to forget. At no point have i seen erynn pick anyone else over the mc, its pretty obvious to me if given the time she would have confessed to him she liked him too... if the mc didnt over react thinking the laugh was about him and actually spoke to her would of found out that he was misunderstood..
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Thats it...and dont forgett Erynn was also tickling MC as young boy that much that he doesn't feel it anymore today...
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Thank God I'm happy with Layla and I don't care about these dramas
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I was happy with Layla until Nikki and Val make things complicated :_)Thank God I'm happy with Layla and I don't care about these dramas
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Are you watching your back every time you have to pee?Thank God I'm happy with Layla and I don't care about these dramas
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Nikki yes but i have the feeling that Val and MC will end up somehovw as relatives....
- Jul 10, 2017
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She did not care ethan beat him up just because and then she went to prom with the asshole and
now likes to work for the blackmailer and eat his aggressions and all his insults.
She fukked up immensely. You cannot be a lover to a hoe who likes to go get beat senseless by her pimp.
She stays in that shit life for years, years on end. She did fuck all but get hooked with ethan and the asshole zane who only wanted to bang and discard her ... what a terrible hoe.
Ethan is more important to her than MC ever was or is, precisely as she is at his back and call
like a trained monkey instead of shifting attention to MC.
now likes to work for the blackmailer and eat his aggressions and all his insults.
She fukked up immensely. You cannot be a lover to a hoe who likes to go get beat senseless by her pimp.
She stays in that shit life for years, years on end. She did fuck all but get hooked with ethan and the asshole zane who only wanted to bang and discard her ... what a terrible hoe.
Ethan is more important to her than MC ever was or is, precisely as she is at his back and call
like a trained monkey instead of shifting attention to MC.
Then Ethan right after beats MC up because that is how you treat a little boy.
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wtf are you talking about? when did she not care that ethan beat him up? when tf did ethan beat him up and she knew about it? "likes to work for the blackmailer" are you sick son? lmfao where do you get that she likes to work for him, all she has done is complain about him... you do realise some people get stuck in relationships with people and get abused for years and years right? is that also their choice and that they like it?
we have very very very very different outlooks on life and things like this, i know people who have been through abuse and you saying stuff like this is really simple minded. If after everything you have seen has made you think that ethan is more important to her than the mc then good for you, i will not even try to carry on this discussion because you're too far gone when it comes to this.
I will happily admit when i think im wrong and will look at stuff through others perspective when it is explained but i cannot see it through yours, i feel like we have played completely different games at this point.
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Man i dont agree with on basis that she WANT to work with asshole or that she chose him ower MC in some way. Author clearly show us she like him. But i agree on part of ''Apology''. We got confrontation scene with her she tell him 'We dont laugh at you' and he like 'its my fault'. If in scene she say'd "I am sorry that i dont answered right away and let my friends distract me. I was emberresed that it happened so suddenly my head was mess. I am realy sorry for how it all happened and my bad part in it" - That enough, few lines not that hard. Insted we got MC 'Its my fault'. That just show author portrait her saint and she has no fault now go fix her life. And if you dont i show you how her life became pure hell and its still be your fault so enjoy)))
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My two cents? Erynn's story is just another story in the VN. She does have a distinction of being involved in the reason that MC started misbehaving, which is the real reason he ended up living with his father. But Alexis was there too. So Alexis' story is inseparable from Erynn's story. This is the way for most of the stories, but especially these two.
So why is it that Alexis' story is so much better than Erynn's? Why is it that Alexis is capable of a relationship with its ups and downs and Erynn is just kind of a drag? I don't think that it is necessarily Erynn's character. She is a perfectly lovely person. It is because people don't really know her deal. We don't need to know everything about a character, we just need to know their deal. Alexis wants MC to be her lover, and does the things to make that happen. What the hell does Erynn want?
Everybody knows by now that I'm not a fan of Erynn's story. It is too much of an ask that the author is imploring us to buy that she was carrying a torch for MC all the time he was gone, especially since he was giving her the gray rock treatment. Human beings don't function like that. Any normal person who was ignored and given the cold shoulder for years would naturally have their feelings toward that person change. Not for the better.
So the author is asking us to buy that Erynn loved this little kid. And now she is well into adulthood and he is just on the precipice of it. Despite being at dramatically different places in life and not really knowing each other after being apart for so long, she loves him with that love that is too embarrassed to speak its name. For most people, this just doesn't pass the smell test.
Alexis' story is a little more familiar if also formulaic. We are presented with what they call a meet cute. Even though they know each other, they don't really remember. Freed from this particular burden by the kindness of forgetfulness, they are able to treat their relationship as something new. Alexis is also attractive because she is optional. You can be rude to her and she disappears as a normal person would. Or you could be kind and love blooms. The past eventually intrudes, but that only happens once the reader is invested in the relationship.
Erynn doesn't seem optional, but she also isn't given good material. She always just gets shoehorned in. MC is walking around with a tack in his shoe and that tack is named Erynn. No matter how he once felt about her or the emotions that re-occur when he encounters her again, they are different people than they were during that event that was so painful to him and was just another day for her. But they don't start fresh. She wants to pick up where they left off and he wants no part of that. So their story stagnates and never really goes anywhere because they are at an impasse. They want different things, and the reader cannot buy into her because from this point on everything in her life is a contrived mess. She is a bottomless pit of need and MC has the feelings of so many other women in his life to consider.
What do you want Erynn? Do you want to be a model or a kindergarten teacher? Do you want your childhood friend back or are you in love with the man he became? Because MC needs to know and he doesn't have that much time to figure it out. He has to choose between two different sets of sisters and a gaggle of classmates. Things are weird with his mom and your mom too. If you want to work here, close the deal! Tick tock, Erynn. Let's hear your elevator pitch. Should we forget the past or is our history so important it can't be discarded? Hurry up, Erynn. I have a date. My right foot is in the car Erynn. What do you want? Help. Okay. You want help. You need a hero. Swell. I'm a teenager and there are at least two other stalkers of girls that I am dating that want to kick my ass but sure. Let me drop everything and solve your problems. Fuck this shit. My princess is in another castle.
So Erynn's story is frustrating and bewildering to many people. The author goes out of their way to make the MC feel wronged by her and then makes no effort to heal things between them before asking us to let her back into his life. We tend to reject this premise. Even if we do accept her back into his life, all she brings to the relationship is confusion and pain. She is pretty to look at, but she doesn't just have baggage but a baggage train. Almost every guy has a shitty ex-girlfriend just like her and almost every girl has a shitty ex-friend that she reminds her of. Erynn just sucks all the energy out of us because the story doesn't go anywhere. Get past a roadblock and there is just another roadblock. It seems one way but scratch the surface and what do you find? That's right. More surface.
So a lot of people will naturally take Alexis' side if forced to choose. Because it doesn't matter how you feel about somebody. What matters is how you treat them. Alexis treats the MC right. She does lie to him, but she acknowledges it and feels bad about it. You know, like a normal person. She might not be honest about everything, but she is honest about her feelings. Erynn acknowledges no wrongdoing. Everything is someone else's fault or a misunderstanding. She is the victim and everyone is against her. Why can't anyone see the love she has inside? Blah blah blah.
Again, this is a flaw of the story and not necessarily a character flaw. We just haven't got any scenes that have given us any reason to give a fuck. How awesome would it have been if Erynn came up behind Ethan and kicked him in the nuts? How awesome would it be if when MC was getting attacked in the park Erynn was there to shout at the stalker and pick MC up off the ground? What if she was worried about him instead of vice versa? It probably would have felt as forced and arbitrary as the rest of the story but instead, she was off washing her hair or something. She had potential as a character. Instead, she is literally dumpstered because her story is garbage. So if the author wants people to like Erynn, they are certainly going about it the wrong way. She might end up making some guy very happy someday, but her story doesn't sell her as a character we should choose over any other random love interest.
So why is it that Alexis' story is so much better than Erynn's? Why is it that Alexis is capable of a relationship with its ups and downs and Erynn is just kind of a drag? I don't think that it is necessarily Erynn's character. She is a perfectly lovely person. It is because people don't really know her deal. We don't need to know everything about a character, we just need to know their deal. Alexis wants MC to be her lover, and does the things to make that happen. What the hell does Erynn want?
Everybody knows by now that I'm not a fan of Erynn's story. It is too much of an ask that the author is imploring us to buy that she was carrying a torch for MC all the time he was gone, especially since he was giving her the gray rock treatment. Human beings don't function like that. Any normal person who was ignored and given the cold shoulder for years would naturally have their feelings toward that person change. Not for the better.
So the author is asking us to buy that Erynn loved this little kid. And now she is well into adulthood and he is just on the precipice of it. Despite being at dramatically different places in life and not really knowing each other after being apart for so long, she loves him with that love that is too embarrassed to speak its name. For most people, this just doesn't pass the smell test.
Alexis' story is a little more familiar if also formulaic. We are presented with what they call a meet cute. Even though they know each other, they don't really remember. Freed from this particular burden by the kindness of forgetfulness, they are able to treat their relationship as something new. Alexis is also attractive because she is optional. You can be rude to her and she disappears as a normal person would. Or you could be kind and love blooms. The past eventually intrudes, but that only happens once the reader is invested in the relationship.
Erynn doesn't seem optional, but she also isn't given good material. She always just gets shoehorned in. MC is walking around with a tack in his shoe and that tack is named Erynn. No matter how he once felt about her or the emotions that re-occur when he encounters her again, they are different people than they were during that event that was so painful to him and was just another day for her. But they don't start fresh. She wants to pick up where they left off and he wants no part of that. So their story stagnates and never really goes anywhere because they are at an impasse. They want different things, and the reader cannot buy into her because from this point on everything in her life is a contrived mess. She is a bottomless pit of need and MC has the feelings of so many other women in his life to consider.
What do you want Erynn? Do you want to be a model or a kindergarten teacher? Do you want your childhood friend back or are you in love with the man he became? Because MC needs to know and he doesn't have that much time to figure it out. He has to choose between two different sets of sisters and a gaggle of classmates. Things are weird with his mom and your mom too. If you want to work here, close the deal! Tick tock, Erynn. Let's hear your elevator pitch. Should we forget the past or is our history so important it can't be discarded? Hurry up, Erynn. I have a date. My right foot is in the car Erynn. What do you want? Help. Okay. You want help. You need a hero. Swell. I'm a teenager and there are at least two other stalkers of girls that I am dating that want to kick my ass but sure. Let me drop everything and solve your problems. Fuck this shit. My princess is in another castle.
So Erynn's story is frustrating and bewildering to many people. The author goes out of their way to make the MC feel wronged by her and then makes no effort to heal things between them before asking us to let her back into his life. We tend to reject this premise. Even if we do accept her back into his life, all she brings to the relationship is confusion and pain. She is pretty to look at, but she doesn't just have baggage but a baggage train. Almost every guy has a shitty ex-girlfriend just like her and almost every girl has a shitty ex-friend that she reminds her of. Erynn just sucks all the energy out of us because the story doesn't go anywhere. Get past a roadblock and there is just another roadblock. It seems one way but scratch the surface and what do you find? That's right. More surface.
So a lot of people will naturally take Alexis' side if forced to choose. Because it doesn't matter how you feel about somebody. What matters is how you treat them. Alexis treats the MC right. She does lie to him, but she acknowledges it and feels bad about it. You know, like a normal person. She might not be honest about everything, but she is honest about her feelings. Erynn acknowledges no wrongdoing. Everything is someone else's fault or a misunderstanding. She is the victim and everyone is against her. Why can't anyone see the love she has inside? Blah blah blah.
Again, this is a flaw of the story and not necessarily a character flaw. We just haven't got any scenes that have given us any reason to give a fuck. How awesome would it have been if Erynn came up behind Ethan and kicked him in the nuts? How awesome would it be if when MC was getting attacked in the park Erynn was there to shout at the stalker and pick MC up off the ground? What if she was worried about him instead of vice versa? It probably would have felt as forced and arbitrary as the rest of the story but instead, she was off washing her hair or something. She had potential as a character. Instead, she is literally dumpstered because her story is garbage. So if the author wants people to like Erynn, they are certainly going about it the wrong way. She might end up making some guy very happy someday, but her story doesn't sell her as a character we should choose over any other random love interest.
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I have an MFA in creative writing and work as a developmental editor. Sometimes my profession comes out in my posts. Sometimes I just make dick and fart jokes. I'm a pretty mixed bag.
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see this is how you do it while being respectful, everyone will see these characters differently. Where you think that she wants to carry on from where they left off and he doesnt i disagree but thats because of our intentions i think, i feel like both want to carry on where they left off from the last time they see eachother, obviously both have grown up and will be different but i believe its what they both want and thats because its what i want. but as you most likely feel like you would rather someone else it wont feel that way to you and thats cool.
alexis is definitely easier to go with, you get into a relationship pretty quickly with her and she has a lot of the time so far to be able to do that. erynn one is definitely a lot more problematic, for me and my logic its harder when you have been friends for so many years before, you want to do it right and you dont want to rush in and ruin the friendship you had. whereas alexis you dont really have much past with except she was friends with erynn, yeah you kissed her as a kid but the relationship you had with erynn is a lot more deeper, alexis you have nothing to lose if it doesnt work out.
erynn route is a lot more slow burn, she has problems she needs to fix before anything really develops. some dont like her story, i dont think its poorly written its just different.
personally i like the different storys and how they mix, everyone will feel different towards each character and everyone likes different things, i dont blame anyone for wanting the LI of their choice, the only thing that makes no sense is the actual hate for some of the girls. when i started the game for me erynn pulled me in, the story of their past, how it ended, i like the story of them being best friends from a young age, developing feelings moving apart to come back together and get it right. sure she has a lot of drama around her, but ive always thought in rl if you want something good it wont always come easy, i dont mind having to battle through different things and emotions to get the person i want so on a game its not really putting me off. plus i kind of like the slow burn aspect to it.
i think as the story goes on we will find out a lot more about erynn and have more time with her to where it might change some peoples opinions.
Would you say they're intertwined?! I think now we're getting somewhere.
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That a wonderfully stated point of wiew. I maybe wanted to add somthing here and there but your opinion perfect as it is. Thank you!