I'm also not a fan of the points system in Intertwined. Some girls points requirements for their romantic path are too low, while others are too high IMO. You can stumble on to Layla or Erynn's romantic path quite easily, especially Layla. While Val's requires maximum points at the training camp, which is a little too harsh IMO.
Not necessarily though, especially if she still harbours some feelings for the MC. So helping to pair him with the new girl WOULD be a lot easier for her than trying to help pair him with her best friend. So it makes a little more sense IMO that that path doesn't exist much.
would be much quicker to replay too without all them look/don't look 2015 style choices
Wolfram's script helps though with that
I'm talking about if Layla only sees you as a friend, which she will if you haven't shown a romantic interest in her. I'm just saying that if you had shown a romantic interest in Elena and not her, she would have been supportive IMO and happy for her best friend.
agreed.would be much quicker to replay too without all them look/don't look 2015 style choices
1)Look Emily, I grabbed you and tossed you in the pool, can I still get a bike? +2
Doesn't seem ideal...
There are better ways to do a point system, Nyx relies too much of small increases over and over and over... and as Justaphase mentioned some characters require that you be pretty flawless in nailing some random inoquous choices, while with others you are allowed plenty of misses... to the point that i can survive doing bad on purpose playthrough
I'll just have to take your word for it then. As I can never not, flirt with Layla at least a LITTLE BIT during my games...
I agree, it could be better, and she did make tweaks to it over time, but overall I still think it's a bad system. So many choices just for the sake of it, get a point, big whoop. Make them less frequent but more impactful. Then you wouldn't need a fucking mod to know what the hell is going on.There are better ways to do a point system, Nyx relies too much of small increases over and over and over... and as Justaphase mentioned some characters require that you be pretty flawless in nailing some random inoquous choices, while with others you are allowed plenty of misses... to the point that i can survive doing bad on purpose playthrough
If the game had more 10 to 15 point swings from a choice instead of constant single point bumps it would be better.
Or ditching the points and going just with the flag system, it may need more flags to be added... but hey she's redoing her script anyways.
That's a great summary and a funny one too
Yeah more focus on big impactful choices instead of 100 correct small choices.
In one of the recent progress updates Nyx talked about possibly adding an extra scene with a side character where you go to the cinema or something, for players that aren't on Val's route and don't go to the party. Zach was one of the possible characters she mentioned that you maybe meet in the added event along with Darryl and Tori?
She knows the details, we just didn't get to see the MC telling her just the tear running down her cheek. It skipped that part on the phone. However she still partly blames herself for the MC and Zach falling out.
2 things... she could be lying about Zach being a possibility on the random scene, i think she knows everyone would reject this option, the possibility of the extra random scene is probably gonna lose just because of the options she mentioned...
Haha! Friend Layla will make me conflicted too! I think dilemmas in this game are unavoida
Well... Played all the classics and well-rated games here, and the majority rely on scoring variables... Can you do without it and not be kinetic? Well... If you rely on flags, it's also a scoring system, just of a different kind (actually, most games rely on a combination of a scoring system + flags, i.e, True/False). You can also do it without any variables, but they'll be like those "Chose Your Own Adventure" books of yore, and will either be simplistic or, if they get too complex, the dev will get lost in so many branches. Flags and score are there to make the design more intelligent so the dev doesn't have to rely solely on jumping to labels -- because, in the end, it's the same thing, just done in a dumber way...
Going by weighted ratings:
I think she knows that the falling out is about Ethan, but not sure if she knows exactly why MC hates Ethan quite so much. Seem to remember that the MC wanted to keep her out of it and not tell her about the whole blackmail thing? Either way, I guess Val probably hates Ethan anyway after whatever he said to her.
All true, there's always the possibility that she's just messing with people!
She witnessed Ethan assaulting the MC first hand(at least on her path), so she knows he's bad news, even before her latest interaction with him.
I don't want a "just Zach" scene honestly, i don't feel like talking to him and i don't know what they would talk about after their last interaction.
I didn't inspect all those games, but I bet all those games have flags, and flags are a binary system ranging from 0 to 1... Being a DIK certainly does, and there are situations in which the scoring system (non-binary) really matters. And, if I remember correctly, LoF at least has flags, but I honestly never inspected this one's code. BaDIK needs points to get Maya's scene and also to decide between her and Josy. I'm not saying this is a good implementation -- in fact, I don't think it is... Just saying it has... Anyway... What matters is the game has to be able to: 1) save state; 2) eval from this state if a girl is into you/what she feels about you and show the appropriate scene; thus, it doesn't matter if it has a general scoring system or if the score is scattered into many variables (flags) that, together, create a score (or a combination of both systems).
Don't think it can directly be involved in the blackmail because of it only happening on her route.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want anything to do with Zach, but he's the lesser evil. Don't see any other character that could let MC know that Ethan has identified who John really is.
