VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[LSC82]

Yes.

Plus Nyx didn't really give us the option to NOT tell Lexi that you love her, he just kinda says it while on the Lexi path. I wish that every developer would give the player that choice. For me that's quite important, especially in a complex game like this one with so many options.

Yes, one moment you are just banging her... the next you are all in, and without any input from the player.
Things like this can create a disconnect, saying "i love you" shouldn't just happen... locking in a relationship shouldn't come as a surprise.

I have this disconnection on the Alexis path, it doesn't feel like "me", the relationship gets too serious, too fast, i wasn't ready for it...
At least when you start flirting(because of course i do ) and having scenes with other girls we get, "did i go too fast? I'm so confused", which kinda plays well with the super fast relationship.

Why choose one when hopefully we can have both? Laylena.
I've always had alot of saves for this so pretty much every girl gets her own save, apart from Elena solo which is pointless so far. I do like to mix things up a bit though, it's what makes this VN stand out from the rest IMO. The fact that Nyx added the break up with Lexi for Val scenes show that she always knew that people would want to do that. I hope that we get more of that in the future, especially if you've been slowly rekindling with Erynn.
The possible repercussions of sleeping with Melissa (if it wasn't another dream of course) are huge. But apart from a few "loyal" saves I will do it in every save. Melissa is hot and it causes irresistible levels of drama.

I've been waiting for more dump Alexis options... somehow Val came in later and got it before Erynn, Nikki...

I will be interesting to compare Melissa on how she is against Erynn vs against everybody else.

Don't get me wrong, Val is indeed a pretty girl, but unfortunately, because of Nyx's drama complex, I can't "normally" date this girl. I'd love to fool around with her (and I have an idiot save for her) but not at the cost of throwing away a "stable" relationship. That's exactly why I don't play Elena's route, because Layla's tearful and sad face is burned into my retinas. (and that's just my opinion, Layla is much prettier than Elena) So my answer is still: No.

But you don't have to "throw away a stable relationship" in order to do it -- just don't start anything with Alexis and keep both Layla and Erynn as friends. Then you can have Val as the only girl MC connects with romantically.

I was about to say this, you don't have to cheat on Alexis to get with Val... you can have just Val.
But it's more entertaining if you do

 

[Acsuka]

Why choose one when hopefully we can have both? Laylena.
I've always had alot of saves for this so pretty much every girl gets her own save, apart from Elena solo which is pointless so far. I do like to mix things up a bit though, it's what makes this VN stand out from the rest IMO. The fact that Nyx added the break up with Lexi for Val scenes show that she always knew that people would want to do that. I hope that we get more of that in the future, especially if you've been slowly rekindling with Erynn.
The possible repercussions of sleeping with Melissa (if it wasn't another dream of course) are huge. But apart from a few "loyal" saves I will do it in every save. Melissa is hot and it causes irresistible levels of drama.

In my previous comment, I was going to point out exactly this, why Elena is so bad when I can get both. I don't know what kind of statistics you have about every player wanting to get Val so that I can break up with Lexi. Of course, many, but everyone? Melissa's case is the same complication as Iris... I really hope it's not another dream, because that would make this whole story with this character ridiculous and frivolous. So yes, if it's true and you fuck her on every route, you'll have a headache because of the possible consequences. And the same goes for Iris, except for Lexi, because you can't fuck Iris on her route.

 

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I was about to say this, you don't have to cheat on Alexis to get with Val... you can have just Val.
But it's more entertaining if you do

No argument here, half of the fun in this game is navigating the minefield of your own creation, with full knowledge you're going to fumble sooner or later.

 

[Kaskaze]

This is really just a theoretical question... If you've had a stable, trustworthy relationship with Lexi since the beginning of the game, you've both said the word "I love you" to each other, (and forget about arguments, it happens in every relationship, even MC is a jerk sometimes) would you really break up with her over a Latin beauty you barely know? First, I'll answer: No.

Interesting point of view. But is the relationship between Alexis and MC really trustworthy? The first thing she does is pretend she doesn’t even know him on the plane. And that wasn’t even a serious relationship yet — it was just the beginning. For me, that’s a big difference, and it definitely doesn’t work in Alexis’s favor.
Now, about Val — true, we don’t know much about her yet. But on the beach, she opened up about her past, and that immediately made me respect her more, because she trusted MC — a guy she barely even knew. So in my opinion, Val has a much better start and stronger foundation for building a relationship with MC than Alexis. So yeah, I’d definitely take the risk of choosing Val.

 

[Acsuka]

Interesting point of view. But is the relationship between Alexis and MC really trustworthy? The first thing she does is pretend she doesn’t even know him on the plane. And that wasn’t even a serious relationship yet — it was just the beginning. For me, that’s a big difference, and it definitely doesn’t work in Alexis’s favor.
Now, about Val — true, we don’t know much about her yet. But on the beach, she opened up about her past, and that immediately made me respect her more, because she trusted MC — a guy she barely even knew. So in my opinion, Val has a much better start and stronger foundation for building a relationship with MC than Alexis. So yeah, I’d definitely take the risk of choosing Val.

Dude, that's exactly what I expected from you. A sensible and honest answer.

 

[Justaphase]

I don't know what kind of statistics you have about every player wanting to get Val so that I can break up with Lexi. Of course, many, but everyone? Melissa's case is the same complication as Iris... I really hope it's not another dream, because that would make this whole story with this character ridiculous and frivolous. So yes, if it's true and you fuck her on every route, you'll have a headache because of the possible consequences. And the same goes for Iris, except for Lexi, because you can't fuck Iris on her route.

I didn't mean that every player would want to do that, but Nyx added the option knowing that many/some players would want to go the dump Lexi for Val route.
Such a shame that you can't have the option to fuck Iris on the Lexi path as well damn it! Coming soon hopefully.

 

[LSC82]

In my previous comment, I was going to point out exactly this, why Elena is so bad when I can get both. I don't know what kind of statistics you have about every player wanting to get Val so that I can break up with Lexi. Of course, many, but everyone? Melissa's case is the same complication as Iris... I really hope it's not another dream, because that would make this whole story with this character ridiculous and frivolous. So yes, if it's true and you fuck her on every route, you'll have a headache because of the possible consequences. And the same goes for Iris, except for Lexi, because you can't fuck Iris on her route.

So far Melissa(assuming it actually happened) is just a one off, i think she's mature enough that she wouldn't ruin the MCs relationship over one misstep.
If you keep instigating her however... that can lead to trouble
That applies to everyone that isn't Erynn... Erynn-Melissa is a whole different ball game.

Iris-Alexis... you can't do it... yet.
Iris-Alexis is quite similar to Erynn-Alexis in terms of pacing and development.
Let's see how long Iris defenses will hold against my attacks

No argument here, half of the fun in this game is navigating the minefield of your own creation, with full knowledge you're going to fumble sooner or later.

100%
Few other games do girl conflict/jealousy as well as this one.
Which just makes playing fuckboy extra entertaining

Interesting point of view. But is the relationship between Alexis and MC really trustworthy? The first thing she does is pretend she doesn’t even know him on the plane. And that wasn’t even a serious relationship yet — it was just the beginning. For me, that’s a big difference, and it definitely doesn’t work in Alexis’s favor.
Now, about Val — true, we don’t know much about her yet. But on the beach, she opened up about her past, and that immediately made me respect her more, because she trusted MC — a guy she barely even knew. So in my opinion, Val has a much better start and stronger foundation for building a relationship with MC than Alexis. So yeah, I’d definitely take the risk of choosing Val.

I agree with this too, not only the Alexis romance is very fast... it goes even faster after it gets revealed she was being dishonest for the whole time you've been with her.

And as we've been saying, it moves super fast and it's quite hard to get out... only Val offers a clean exit so far...
No such options for Erynn, Nikki or Iris... i wonder what kind of fireworks Nyx is cooking here

 

[Acsuka]

So far Melissa(assuming it actually happened) is just a one off, i think she's mature enough that she wouldn't ruin the MCs relationship over one misstep.
If you keep instigating her however... that can lead to trouble
That applies to everyone that isn't Erynn... Erynn-Melissa is a whole different ball game.

Iris-Alexis... you can't do it... yet.
Iris-Alexis is quite similar to Erynn-Alexis in terms of pacing and development.
Let's see how long Iris defenses will hold against my attacks

Melissa: Yes, I agree with your first sentence. However, don't forget Nyx announced long ago that Melissa is LI. I am convinced that this "sex" is the turning point, and now her route can start. Of course, if both of them honestly talk about what they want in the future.
And if MC now has a girlfriend, they should get through this together so that no one gets seriously hurt. I have no sensible idea for Erynn, it will be a hell of a conversation if it happens...

Iris-Alexis: Just my opinion, Iris might respect Lexi because of their past together, and that's why she doesn't have sex with MC. If she wasn't with him, she would have fallen on her face just like the other girls in her route. But one thing is for sure, Iris wants MC back in every route because she still loves him...

 

[Kaskaze]

So far Melissa(assuming it actually happened) is just a one off, i think she's mature enough that she wouldn't ruin the MCs relationship over one misstep.
If you keep instigating her however... that can lead to trouble
That applies to everyone that isn't Erynn... Erynn-Melissa is a whole different ball game.

Iris-Alexis... you can't do it... yet.
Iris-Alexis is quite similar to Erynn-Alexis in terms of pacing and development.
Let's see how long Iris defenses will hold against my attacks


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100%
Few other games do girl conflict/jealousy as well as this one.
Which just makes playing fuckboy extra entertaining



I agree with this too, not only the Alexis romance is very fast... it goes even faster after it gets revealed she was being dishonest for the whole time you've been with her.

And as we've been saying, it moves super fast and it's quite hard to get out... only Val offers a clean exit so far...
No such options for Erynn, Nikki or Iris... i wonder what kind of fireworks Nyx is cooking here

Honestly, the pace of MC and Alexis’s relationship doesn’t really bother me. I actually think it develops at a normal rate — it’s just that Alexis was introduced earlier than Val. The same relationship speed could’ve happened with Muscle Mommy or Cara if they were in the same city.
The only one left is Erynn, and the pace of her relationship makes sense to me because of her whole situation.
And then there’s Melissa… ah, Melissa — she’s definitely someone we’ll just have to keep an eye on.

 

[Kaskaze]

Dude, that's exactly what I expected from you. A sensible and honest answer.

Sometimes I actually manage to say something that makes sense.

 

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Honestly, the pace of MC and Alexis’s relationship doesn’t really bother me. I actually think it develops at a normal rate — it’s just that Alexis was introduced earlier than Val. The same relationship speed could’ve happened with Muscle Mommy or Cara if they were in the same city.

It's pretty similar to Iris who fucked MC literally on their second outing and when they knew each other for couple of days, and she's already made her mind at that point (or shortly after, when her ex showed up) she wants to be with him and they've had year+ long relationship after that.

While i don't know about Nikki, i think Cara would take it slightly slower, if just on account it's her first real experience and younger age, not unlike Layla. (One could in fact make a point that it takes some weeks of living together with Nikki and Cara before they get to the point of having sex, but then their circumstances are different, with their parents dating etc.) Val also doesn't just start fucking with MC on the second day they meet. It's mostly the older girls who are so thirsty/desperate for some high schooler dick it can seriously make you wonder about their mental capacities.

 

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Melissa: Yes, I agree with your first sentence. However, don't forget Nyx announced long ago that Melissa is LI. I am convinced that this "sex" is the turning point, and now her route can start. Of course, if both of them honestly talk about what they want in the future.
And if MC now has a girlfriend, they should get through this together so that no one gets seriously hurt. I have no sensible idea for Erynn, it will be a hell of a conversation if it happens...

Iris-Alexis: Just my opinion, Iris might respect Lexi because of their past together, and that's why she doesn't have sex with MC. If she wasn't with him, she would have fallen on her face just like the other girls in her route. But one thing is for sure, Iris wants MC back in every route because she still loves him...

For Melissa i believe we will have a conversation in which she'll say "let's just forget this happened".
And we will get options like "Yes" and "I don't want to forget", picking the second option makes her relationship path "real".

And then there's how having Erynn as a romance will interact with this...
Surely it will make Melissa feel terribly guilty, it's a much heavier secret for her to hold on compared to a random girl you have a relationship with.

Iris(this applies to Erynn too) is trying very hard to stop herself from doing something that will jeopardize her relationship with Alexis.
But she still loves the guy and i'm betting that eventually she will "give in" and we are gonna have a conflict.
Same thing with Erynn-Alexis, girl is in love with her BFFs boyfriend, she's not doing anything... but we know she wants to, let's see how long she resists.

Honestly, the pace of MC and Alexis’s relationship doesn’t really bother me. I actually think it develops at a normal rate — it’s just that Alexis was introduced earlier than Val. The same relationship speed could’ve happened with Muscle Mommy or Cara if they were in the same city.
The only one left is Erynn, and the pace of her relationship makes sense to me because of her whole situation.
And then there’s Melissa… ah, Melissa — she’s definitely someone we’ll just have to keep an eye on.

It's the jump to boyfriend that happens out of nowhere to me... they had just gotten back together, i was still in "let's bang" mode when the jump happened. And of course there's no choice here, it just happens.
The last choice (a full chapter earlier) was simply "i wanna continue to see you"...
I feel like i didn't read the whole contract, there were clauses i missed completely

It's hard to compare the speed against "flashback relationships", they do happen very fast... but that's because they are summarizing months in an hour of gameplay(applies to Nikki, Cara and Iris).

 

[Kaskaze]

It's pretty similar to Iris who fucked MC literally on their second outing and when they knew each other for couple of days, and she's already made her mind at that point she wants to be with him and they've had year+ long relationship after that.

While i don't know about Nikki, i think Cara would take it slightly slower, if just on account it's her first real experience and younger age, not unlike Layla. (One could in fact make a point that it takes some weeks of living together with Nikki and Cara before they get to the point of having sex, but then their circumstances are different, with their parents dating etc.) Val also doesn't just start fucking with MC on the second day they meet. It's mostly the older girls who are so thirsty/desperate for some high schooler dick it can seriously make you wonder about their mental capacities.

But Iris is also a strange case (not sure if that’s the right word, but I can’t think of a better one right now). She’s open — and we’ve all seen just how “open” she is. She even admitted that they never actually ended their relationship. She probably still loves him. Even John seems to notice it and subtly tries to help his daughter.
And honestly, we still don’t know a lot — like whether she was with someone while she was away from MC. So to me, it feels like Iris still sees MC as her boyfriend.

 

[Kaskaze]

For Melissa i believe we will have a conversation in which she'll say "let's just forget this happened".
And we will get options like "Yes" and "I don't want to forget", picking the second option makes her relationship path "real".

And then there's how having Erynn as a romance will interact with this...
Surely it will make Melissa feel terribly guilty, it's a much heavier secret for her to hold on compared to a random girl you have a relationship with.

Iris(this applies to Erynn too) is trying very hard to stop herself from doing something that will jeopardize her relationship with Alexis.
But she still loves the guy and i'm betting that eventually she will "give in" and we are gonna have a conflict.
Same thing with Erynn-Alexis, girl is in love with her BFFs boyfriend, she's not doing anything... but we know she wants to, let's see how long she resists.


It's the jump to boyfriend that happens out of nowhere to me... they had just gotten back together, i was still in "let's bang" mode when the jump happened. And of course there's no choice here, it just happens.
The last choice (a full chapter earlier) was simply "i wanna continue to see you"...
I feel like i didn't read the whole contract, there were clauses i missed completely

It's hard to compare the speed against "flashback relationships", they do happen very fast... but that's because they are summarizing months in an hour of gameplay(applies to Nikki, Cara and Iris).

Muscle Mommy is one of a kind. She’s always right — doesn’t matter if she’s actually wrong or not. She’ll always be loved, and I don’t care about anything else. She can talk nonsense all she wants, she’ll still be the most important one.

 

[Acsuka]

Honestly, the pace of MC and Alexis’s relationship doesn’t really bother me. I actually think it develops at a normal rate — it’s just that Alexis was introduced earlier than Val. The same relationship speed could’ve happened with Muscle Mommy or Cara if they were in the same city.
The only one left is Erynn, and the pace of her relationship makes sense to me because of her whole situation.
And then there’s Melissa… ah, Melissa — she’s definitely someone we’ll just have to keep an eye on.

And we agree again... Alexis is the first character we meet, and her early introduction is pretty awful for a few episodes, and everyone still judges her based on that. But we also know why she has such a bad image at the beginning of the game, since her original fate was completely different. Oddly enough, she gained a huge fan base, so Nyx changed the story and she and Nikki were given LI status. I have no problem with the pace of the romance either. And let's be honest: She has a beautiful redheaded mother whose ass and breasts we've already touched... She has a cute sister who we go to school with and we have fun with... She has a cool dad who is super rich, and half a dozen luxury cars... Who's the idiot who wants to run away from all that?

 

[Kaskaze]

And we agree again... Alexis is the first character we meet, and her early introduction is pretty awful for a few episodes, and everyone still judges her based on that. But we also know why she has such a bad image at the beginning of the game, since her original fate was completely different. Oddly enough, she gained a huge fan base, so Nyx changed the story and she and Nikki were given LI status. I have no problem with the pace of the romance either. And let's be honest: She has a beautiful redheaded mother whose ass and breasts we've already touched... She has a cute sister who we go to school with and we have fun with... She has a cool dad who is super rich, and half a dozen luxury cars... Who's the idiot who wants to run away from all that?

The answer is simple: the idiot known as MC — after he picks Elena, Cara, Muscle Mommy, Melissa, or Val. Or if it turns out he slept with Lake. That’s when the doors to that house will be closed for good.

 

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But Iris is also a strange case (not sure if that’s the right word, but I can’t think of a better one right now). She’s open — and we’ve all seen just how “open” she is. She even admitted that they never actually ended their relationship. She probably still loves him. Even John seems to notice it and subtly tries to help his daughter.
And honestly, we still don’t know a lot — like whether she was with someone while she was away from MC. So to me, it feels like Iris still sees MC as her boyfriend.

She does love him, not only we have the Iris and John scene, we also have this "almost sent" message on the Alexis path.


But, at the same time that Iris is outwardly confident, she is still worried about getting rejected or hurt, maybe he moved on since Alvarado, all that time ago... she's afraid of hearing that.

And in the Alexis path she's also worried about hurting her friend.

 

[Acsuka]

The answer is simple: the idiot known as MC — after he picks Elena, Cara, Muscle Mommy, Melissa, or Val. Or if it turns out he slept with Lake. That’s when the doors to that house will be closed for good.

I won't repeat myself... But this MC is really a big idiot if he does all this... By the way, I uploaded new pictures, if you're interested, Mommy is among them.

 

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But Iris is also a strange case (not sure if that’s the right word, but I can’t think of a better one right now). She’s open — and we’ve all seen just how “open” she is. She even admitted that they never actually ended their relationship. She probably still loves him. Even John seems to notice it and subtly tries to help his daughter.
And honestly, we still don’t know a lot — like whether she was with someone while she was away from MC. So to me, it feels like Iris still sees MC as her boyfriend.

I think you could say Iris is very straightforward, or just forward -- she doesn't hide her feelings, and she readily makes snap decisions rather than spend lot of time weighing her options. I suspect her hangup on MC is in part because they've never had anything that'd count as a real closure. So yeah, she's kind of stuck in the "he's still my boyfriend" mode, even if she wraps it in a guise of a joke.

But whether that has prevented her from getting involved with anyone else in the meantime is an open question. Until recently you could probably bet on a "no" given how the author was trying to avoid anything approaching NTR, but i think that's not really the case anymore and you can see that "boiling the frog" in terms of introducing some NTR-adjacent elements has started with the most recent updates. So learning that she, not unlike MC, had some hookups --at least with girls-- in the meantime wouldn't surprise me. Heck, the first thing Iris asks of her "supposed boyfriend" when they meet again is to help her hook up with Erynn, after all.

 

[Acsuka]

I think you could say Iris is very straightforward, or just forward -- she doesn't hide her feelings, and she readily makes snap decisions rather than spend lot of time weighing her options. I suspect her hangup on MC is in part because they've never had anything that'd count as a real closure. So yeah, she's kind of stuck in the "he's still my boyfriend" mode, even if she wraps it in a guise of a joke.

But whether that has prevented her from getting involved with anyone else in the meantime is an open question. Until recently you could probably bet on a "no" given how the author was trying to avoid anything approaching NTR, but i think that's not really the case anymore and you can see that "boiling the frog" in terms of introducing some NTR-adjacent elements has started with the most recent updates. So learning that she, not unlike MC, had some hookups --at least with girls-- in the meantime wouldn't surprise me. Heck, the first thing Iris asks of her "supposed boyfriend" when they meet again is to help her hook up with Erynn, after all.

This sounds pretty realistic, and they never really talked about possible relationships during that time. Yes, Iris definitely has bisexual tendencies, and I don't rule out the possibility that she's had a pussy eating session or two. But I definitely think that if she got MC back, she'd be loyal and it would be one of her happiest days...