VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[CrioniC.Syn]

What Nyx says and what Nyx shows in game are two things, whether she is aware of that is another question though, which may be partly cultural and age differences where I see things differently as she claims to mean them. One of the things I learned though is that peoples actions speak way more truth as their words. Erryn going to Ethan immediately speaks of where her focus is at that moment and it was not Mc nor Alexis whatever is said by Nyx or what she might have intended. That is exactly the point my post makes.

Her claiming MC is wrong? Well where comes that whole Alexis slagging from then and there being a problem with her going for MC and being a bad friend that Alexis wrestles with herself as well?

Erynn was angry because Alexis didn't tell her MC is back, not that they are dating. She actually accepts the dating. This is also confirmed by the Alexis "secret route".

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

What's the trigger for the truth or dare show the scene where both elena and layla are topless with the MC handling their boobs?

You need to be on Layla path and have high points with Elena

 

[den_tiger]

You need to be on Layla path and have high points with Elena

Ok... but usually choosing Elena means disregarding Layla points

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

Ok... but usually choosing Elena means disregarding Layla points

You only need to tell Layla the truth about Lucas, you'll lose points with Elena, but you can get those points back later when they are "fighting" on the grass.
When you get the scene where Elena asks you to help her train at her place, you're good.

 

[memegamerfun]

It's funny how people get so invested into an adult game that they invent entire stories about the characters and their motivations. Yet those stories are usually more about themselves and their worldview than anything that’s actually happening in the game.

It’s funny, but also highlights just how awesome this game is!

 

[den_tiger]

You only need to tell Layla the truth about Lucas, you'll lose points with Elena, but you can get those points back later when they are "fighting" on the grass.
When you get the scene where Elena asks you to help her train at her place, you're good.

thanks

 

[dolfe67]

the Alexis "secret route".

I wonder how you can choose that path on a first playthrough. At this point you weren't interested in her (you could have flirted and fucked in the plane). But knowing she's a childhood friend and pushed by Erynn makes you change your mind?

 

[DA22]

Erynn was angry because Alexis didn't tell her MC is back, not that they are dating. She actually accepts the dating. This is also confirmed by the Alexis "secret route".

Yeah and that is exactly what I mean, there is a whole path full of drama and soul searching from Alexis while suddenly. Nah no claim I am just mad you did not tell me MC was here. Like Alexis is some freak that it was all in her head that Erryn was interested in Mc and put out some claim, just her mistake. Also disregarding some of theE rryn crazy train remarks that suddenly have no meaning.

Same as with the blackmail, Erryn acts more or less like that tape is the most shameful thing that could ever happen to her as if she grew up in a ultra conservative environment. That while she is the child of a single mother and her BFF Alexis, well we know what she did with MC at start of game. It just does not really fit as an ultra conservative environment where those closest to her would be extremely judgmental of her.

Sure that tape is horrible and would be no help with her chosen career path, but as Avaron explained from her own womanly view the choice Erryn made is even worse as letting it come out in public and not only for her career that is still years and years away, but also immediately. The real weird thing is though that she seems unable to even talk about it with those closest to her or ask their help. Neither now or in past with MC. Now pride might play a part (more likely the drama needed though) and not wanting to hear you were stupid, but neither Alexis, Emily or Melissa are portrayed as people that would shut out Erryn for something like sex with her Bf that was taped or in Melissa's case likely anything she ever would do.

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

Yeah and that is exactly what I mean, there is a whole path full of drama and soul searching from Alexis while suddenly. Nah no claim I am just mad you did not tell me MC was here. Like Alexis is some freak that it was all in her head that Erryn was interested in Mc and put out some claim, just her mistake.

Same as with the blackmail, Erryn acts more or less like that tape is the most shameful thing that could ever happen to her as if she grew up in a ultra conservative environment. That while she is the child of a single mother and her BFF Alexis, well we know what she did with MC at start of game. It just does not really fit as an ultra conservative environment where those closest to her would be extremely judgmental of her.

Sure that tape is horrible and would be no help with her chosen career path, but as Avaron explained from her own womanly view the choice Erryn made is even worse as letting it come out in public and not only for her career that is still years and years away, but also immediately. The real weird thing is though that she seems unable to even talk about it with those closest to her or ask their help. Neither now or in past. Now pride might play a part (more likely the drama needed though) and not wanting to hear you were stupid, but neither Alexis, Emily or Melissa are portrayed as people that would shut out Erryn for something like sex with her Bf that was taped or in Melissa's case likely anything she ever would do.

If you haven't been in the exact same situation, you can't comprehend what's really going on in someone's head. And even if, every person handles situations differently.
But let's agree to disagree and move to another subject, this has been discussed to boredom.
And if you want the real answers to your questions, message Nyx herself. It's always best to go to the source. That's what I do.

 

[DA22]

If you haven't been in the exact same situation, you can't comprehend what's really going on in someone's head. And even if, every person handles situations differently.
But let's agree to disagree and move to another subject, this has been discussed to boredom.
And if you want the real answers to your questions, message Nyx herself. It's always best to go to the source. That's what I do.

That first remark is only true partly especially if you have some first hand knowledge of similar things happening to people around you, but even then the way someone does react to them and accepts to keep it secret does say something about them as well. Whether that is out of panic, shame or whatever reason and we as players from our own pov will react more favorable or accepting of that or less.

The only real and best answer in my eyes the is final version of the game and answers that are in game. Like with that director that had to explain his movie because 99% of spectators did not understand him, failed to understand that he was wrong and not his viewers. His movie just failed in the end to show what he intended and that was his fault and not of that of the viewers or he would not have needed to explain it to 99% of them. Remarks outside of game even from the dev only have limited meaning if game does not support those remarks enough and this game also suffers a bit from that especially in the plotlines surrounding Erryn.

Not like I would do or would have done a better job as Nyx though, just she wrote herself a bit in corner with past events and it will not be easy for her to make that work really well even after rewrite since for that she would have to make some chars much more unlikable to save others as she tried a bit with the rewrite to improve views on Erryn at the cost of Emily. It will be interesting to see though if at the end she will succeed in that and believe it or not I am rooting for her to succeed.

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

That first remark is only true partly especially if you have some first hand knowledge of similar things happening to people around you, but even then the way someone does react to them and accepts to keep it secret does say something about them as well. Whether that is out of panic, shame or whatever reason and we as players from our own pov will react more favorable or accepting of that or less.

The only real and best answer in my eyes the is final version of the game and answers that are in game. Like with that director that had to explain his movie because 99% of spectators did not understand him, failed to understand that he was wrong and not his viewers. His movie just failed in the end to show what he intended and that was his fault and not of that of the viewers or he would not have needed to explain it to 99% of them. Remarks outside of game even from the dev only have limited meaning if game does not support those remarks enough and this game also suffers a bit from that especially in the plotlines surrounding Erryn.

Not like I would do or would have done a better job as Nyx though, just she wrote herself a bit in corner with past events and it will not be easy for her to make that work really well even after rewrite since for that she would have to make some chars much more unlikable to save others as she tried a bit with the rewrite to improve views on Erryn at the cost of Emily. It will be interesting to see though if at the end she will succeed in that and believe it or not I am rooting for her to succeed.

The facts were all in the story already though. Some people don't pick up on them, some do.
I've never heard about a rewrite. One choice has been moved to a later point in the story because you didn't have much info yet to make a big decision. Story-wise, nothing's changed.
Who says every character needs to be likeable also? Maybe Erynn isn't written to be likeable?

Succeed or not. I think she did already, especially for a first project. Lots of people enjoying/playing/discussing it.

 

[DA22]

The facts were all in the story already though. Some people don't pick up on them, some do.
I've never heard about a rewrite. One choice has been moved to a later point in the story because you didn't have much info yet to make a big decision. Story-wise, nothing's changed.
Who says every character needs to be likeable also? Maybe Erynn isn't written to be likeable?

Succeed or not. I think she did already, especially for a first project. Lots of people enjoying/playing/discussing it.

Last is true and if remember. this is her first game as well it is incredibly ambitious and quite a miracle she made it work as well as she did already , but if not aware some of the events around the offering of the rose and amount of time between when MC was sent of to his not-dad were amended and shortened. If remember right it was about update 0.6 into 0.65 when it was also needed to replay game.

Though this is just my bet and all on my head, I do think Nyx wants/wanted Erryn to be liked by players though and likable, partly based on that rewrite. I may be wrong though.

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

Last is true and if remember. this is her first game as well it is incredibly ambitious and quite a miracle she made it work as well as she did already , but if not aware some of the events around the offering of the rose and amount of time between when MC was sent of to his not-dad were amended and shortened. If remember right it was about update 0.6 into 0.65 when it was also needed to replay game.

Though this is just my bet and all on my head, I do think Nyx wants/wanted Erryn to be liked by players though and likable, partly based on that rewrite. I may be wrong though.

Here you go:

If you still doubt, go ask yourself.

 

[DA22]

Here you go:
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If you still doubt, go ask yourself.

Well I played them both and whatever Nyx says there was a strong shortening of the time in which MC was sent away to Andres and a few other things, not just coding. I can even remember someone else correcting me in this forum on that time inbetween cause it was shortened and he surmised I had not played the rewrite yet at that moment because I was still using the old time frame and corrected me on the new one. Just as that there was a discussion in those days that it did not really show Emily in a great light, since that time was quite short.

Edit: It could be that Nyx did not see it as a rewrite though, but some things did change that were more as just details.

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

Well I played them both and whatever Nyx says there was a strong shortening of the time in which MC was sent away to Andres and a few other things, not just coding. I can even remember someone else correcting me in this forum on that time inbetween cause it was shortened and he surmised I had not played the rewrite yet at that moment because I was still using the old time frame and corrected me on the new one. Just as that there was a discussion in those days that it did not really show Emily in a great light, since that time was quite short.

Edit: It could be that Nyx did not see it as a rewrite though, but some things did change that were more as just details.

A month has been changed to a few weeks. Which could still be the same. If that's a rewrite and changes your whole perspective about 2 characters, so be it.
I'd rather ask the dev for questions than people on this forum. To each their own.

 

[DA22]

A month has been changed to a few weeks. Which could still be the same. If that's a rewrite and changes your whole perspective about 2 characters, so be it.
I'd rather ask the dev for questions than people on this forum. To each their own.

Well like I said I played both and it was more then that and if you wish you can reread the discussions around that time if do not wish to take my words for it, that are partly still the same discussions as now and it was more as two weeks difference, quite a bit more. Why else do you think it became a discussion in the first place and weirded people including me since so short period suddenly like Emily was almost looking for a reason to ditch MC as soon as he first acted like an adolescent and was a problem.

 

[Puma1978]

Alexis didn't go look for MC to comfort him. She was going home because she didn't want to listen to the bickering between Erynn and Ethan. She saw MC sitting there and asked how he was.
This has been confirmed by Nyx herself on Discord!

Anyway...Nyx gave to Alexis more attention and a more logic and dense storyline through whole game if u stick with her. If she wants to turn tables to focus on a deep relationship between Mc and Erynn i think she must add more engaging content to Erynn in future updates. Maybe to show in a flashback that Erynn was the first kiss of MC before Alexis or show how she cared about him as kids or that she still keeps the flower somewhere in her room. Currently she appears more like a sister to me and since i am not into incest i would never approach her as GF. Especially if she cant get rid in all those years of a moron like Ethan even before he got the tape. but of course she is accepted as a childhood friend wo i want to help and talk to about problems.

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

Well like I said I played both and it was more then that and if you wish you can reread the discussions around that time if do not wish to take my words for it, that are partly still the same discussions as now and it was more as two weeks difference, quite a bit more. Why else do you think it became a discussion in the first place and weirded people including me since so short period suddenly like Emily was almost looking for a reason to ditch MC as soon as he first acted like an adolescent and was a problem.

Why would I need to reread the forum if I have the script from version 0.1 and the 0.5.5 in front of me and see what's changed?
The time has shortened, not increased. Meaning people should be even more furious about Emily?
Anyway, I'm not going to react anymore. If you want to be right. You are right!

 

[DA22]

Why would I need to reread the forum if I have the script from version 0.1 and the 0.5.5 in front of me and see what's changed?
The time has shortened, not increased. Meaning people should be even more furious about Emily?
Anyway, I'm not going to react anymore. If you want to be right. You are right!

That is what I said the time was shortened and yeah that did make people wonder about Emily, what loving Mom or Dad for that sends her kid to her estranged ex, who is not even his dad after just two weeks of problems and without seriously trying to find out what was the cause of change?

 

[Craftyy]

I just finished Ep 9 and Layla and Lexi appear crying at my door as I chose to date both, does this now end my chances with them? because if it does ill go back and make a choice