Bromo

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the vision you have for this project sounds solid to me
especially when you talk about the branching nightmare it triggers some PTSD in me :KEK:

I get it's not easy to keep track of all options to reflect in the dialogue but I'm not even surprised anymore when I clearly reject sex with a girl/don't kiss her and sometimes already the very next scene they talk about like it happened anyway
a lot of "choice driven" harem games make the mistake of assuming that the player is constantly horny and wouldn't reject an obvious affection gain - no matter how questionable the situation may be
(meeting a girl and not even 2 days later already undying in love is another cliché rocket start relationship)
it does not necessarily need to be slow burn, but it should be believable

so far I haven't seen anything like that here which I highly value/appreciate
so I guess what I want to say with this small vent of frustration:
"Take your time" - with so many LIs and branching paths it looks like an ambitious project and you are just starting
better a slower but polished release instead of a quicker one that could frustrate people because their decisions don't seem to matter anymore (y)
 

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There's a total of 8 Main Li's, main li's have two paths, corruption and romance, and all of them are connected to the main plot.
Akane, Manami, Kaori, Mikoto, Yuzuki, Eris, and two slots more open for favorite characters based on future polls.

Secondary Li's, there's a lot, but they only have one single path, this way the branching won't be a hell and focus and pacing can be mixed without issues.

NTR most probably Yuzuki will be another character as well, but I'll make a poll once she is introduced, because probably she becomes a playable character, soplayer can corrupt her too. (Yuzuki is the sister) But it's too soon to tell about her.

Harem paths are combinations, like Akane X Manami is Safe, but if you add Kaori, then there's gonna be friction, but still be possible, just with a bit of extra drama.

I'm trying to make that each character have their own time to develop, Akane was the first one, since her path is longer, but it doesn't affect if you avoid her, she's not a forced love interest, that's already implemented in the current version with both of them giving the last "goodbye", but she won't dissappear, she will stay friendly.

One of the common issues about games with a lot of characters is the branching, making paths that leads to nowhere and in some point they get lost and development causes burnout and long periods on each release.

I'm using this formula to solve this problem, is a romboid branch, this way, all plots, characters, and love interests, are kind of connected to a time slot, and to the main plot, because the game have a plot, yeah, it's not just romancing everything with two legs, so, this way, each game day, have a meaning and a correct pacing.


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the game is already huge so i hope you just focus on existing Main Li and don't add more because it will be just more work for you dev
 

Mereszhka

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the game is already huge so i hope you just focus on existing Main Li and don't add more because it will be just more work for you dev
Yup, I'm not planning on making a deep background story for every LI haha, only the main ones, but for instance, Clubs are a way to boost relations and the plot too, they're not there just to fill, every club have a purpose as well, linked to a main love interested, secondary li's, and the main plot.

Everything is connected, and players have a total free will about how they play this game without missing anything.
 

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Yup, I'm not planning on making a deep background story for every LI haha, only the main ones, but for instance, Clubs are a way to boost relations and the plot too, they're not there just to fill, every club have a purpose as well, linked to a main love interested, secondary li's, and the main plot.

Everything is connected, and players have a total free will about how they play this game without missing anything.
will the futa club get involved with other characters or just the Mc?
 

Bromo

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I feel like I'm rambling way to much in this thread, I hope I don't piss anyone off :KEK:
I just really love to talk about that game right now
like a new music artist you discover and have to listen to 24/7 until you hate your favorite song

The harem tag feels like such a bait.
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I agree that 1 & 2 would be bait - in probably every game on this site (excluding maybe DS)
3 sounds like it fits here tho
but if you assume that "a group of women" should mean "everyone" by default, you are fundamentally wrong concerning the definition
"sexual partners" doesn't even necessarily need to be with feelings attached
but that has become the standard definition so nobody can fault you

and you will be able to pursue multiple partners in the future
with varying degree of drama.. but as I read it there will always be a way to make every combination work
this doesn't sound like a "everyone is happy and we fuck rabbit-ly ever after" but with character who might be against it but accept it under certain conditions - so it will probably feel more real than the "MC is the only dick around/naturally a chick magnet" games out there where everyone throws itself at you - even if you try to keep them away
it sounds more genuine/real with possible Character/Relationship Development

IF you however mean "bait" as in there is no real harem dynamic so far in the revamp I'm can kinda agree
that tag is after all is a remnant of the old version - removing the tag at this point would just add more confusion, especially since it would be added later anyway



will the futa club get involved with other characters or just the Mc?
Mei seems to be a possible NTR/NTS/Sharing option
based on the picture a few posts back and the shower scene ingame
 
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Hi, having the same android issue with text starting off screen, Xiaomi 11T, classic 1920x1080, Xiaomi OS 1.0.16.0
Redownloading the apk & reinstalling did nothing.
 
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Letstryitout

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I'm guessing before the revamp version has content that's not implemented in Revamp version? Is before the revamp version better to start for a new player with the amount of content?
 

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Is before the revamp version better to start for a new player with the amount of content?
The revamp is a pretty heavy rewrite. It's not like it's just a remake with better renders. Pacing, some characterization, entire events differ.
There's a train molestation scene before the remake, and there's train molestation in the remake, but they're completely different scenes on every level with different actions and outcomes.

I wouldn't recommend before-the-remake first. Maybe after you play the remake if you're really itching to see more, then try the original. Could be an interesting view in how things changes to approach it from that direction.
 

Febui

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Can one get futa on male content without futadom in this game? Or is it a packaged deal?
Not yet.
In the original run before remaking it, there was a submissive gentle futa that did have options for saying you don't mind taking at least something in the ass, I think you could get fingered. In theory, later in the route, you would have had full penetrative sex. I am referring to Mitoko who you could lead down a sex transition route that was labeled futa, but you being up for butt stuff gets introduced earlier, if you want spoilers on what I mean.

I would imagine something similar will be happening in the revamp. However, even if not, it might be there in the futa club if you don't pick futadom. It's not there yet, but it has the vibes that it'll be an option.
 

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So in turn the Rework looks okay but my gripe is that now you toss all the already made content out the window now and basically started fresh............


Why...

Just made like double to triple the workload now and you have to start over again.....
 
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So in turn the Rework looks okay but my gripe is that now you toss all the already made content out the window now and basically started fresh............


Why...

Just made like double to triple the workload now and you have to start over again.....
I’d say the same if it wasn’t worth it, but trust me the rework has made the game so much better and given it way more potential. The dev is also really consistent with big updates, so I’d definitely say it’s worth it. With the rework, he’s been able to plan out content and paths more effectively, fix a lot of the early issues, and set things up to make future development smoother.
 
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There's a total of 8 Main Li's, main li's have two paths, corruption and romance, and all of them are connected to the main plot.
Akane, Manami, Kaori, Mikoto, Yuzuki, Eris, and two slots more open for favorite characters based on future polls.

Secondary Li's, there's a lot, but they only have one single path, this way the branching won't be a hell and focus and pacing can be mixed without issues.

NTR most probably Yuzuki will be another character as well, but I'll make a poll once she is introduced, because probably she becomes a playable character, soplayer can corrupt her too. (Yuzuki is the sister) But it's too soon to tell about her.

Harem paths are combinations, like Akane X Manami is Safe, but if you add Kaori, then there's gonna be friction, but still be possible, just with a bit of extra drama.

I'm trying to make that each character have their own time to develop, Akane was the first one, since her path is longer, but it doesn't affect if you avoid her, she's not a forced love interest, that's already implemented in the current version with both of them giving the last "goodbye", but she won't dissappear, she will stay friendly.

One of the common issues about games with a lot of characters is the branching, making paths that leads to nowhere and in some point they get lost and development causes burnout and long periods on each release.

I'm using this formula to solve this problem, is a romboid branch, this way, all plots, characters, and love interests, are kind of connected to a time slot, and to the main plot, because the game have a plot, yeah, it's not just romancing everything with two legs, so, this way, each game day, have a meaning and a correct pacing.


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I've always said that about large number of characters. It's difficult to branch and grow them all, burnout is real. Please don't feel like you have to keep up the art with the story. You can focus on the stories and branches first, use AI as temporary placeholders until your done with one and then begin replacing images with your own material if you prefer. I think AI can greatly help you solve the issues of the story and branching, the coding, and folks stick around for the latest art replacements.
 
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Not yet.
In the original run before remaking it, there was a submissive gentle futa that did have options for saying you don't mind taking at least something in the ass, I think you could get fingered. In theory, later in the route, you would have had full penetrative sex. I am referring to Mitoko who you could lead down a sex transition route that was labeled futa, but you being up for butt stuff gets introduced earlier, if you want spoilers on what I mean.

I would imagine something similar will be happening in the revamp. However, even if not, it might be there in the futa club if you don't pick futadom. It's not there yet, but it has the vibes that it'll be an option.
You have mixing things up a little.
Mikoto was not a futa but a LI with gender uncertainties which in the end either remain a man become a trans-woman.
And of the futa characters, Eris was the only option (can be girl or futa), so it was far from gentle and it was only male-on-futa.
 
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Febui

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Mikoto was not a futa but a LI with gender uncertainties which in the end either remain a man become a trans-woman.
That's what "lead down a sex transition route" means. And it labeled as futa on that path.
 

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That's what "lead down a sex transition route" means. And it labeled as futa on that path.
Not sure what you are meaning with that, but just in case:
  • Futa/Hermaphrodite and Shemale/Dickgirl/Gynomorph (which may be part of the transition) are not the same thing.
That being said, this makes me wonder... Now that I think about it, it was not clearly visible if Eris was a real futa with both genitalia, and so far I don’t think we know for sure about the members of the Cherry Shaft Club either. Like, the best picture I got to try to estimate if they are true futa or not is the following:
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And this make me think they are not. Yet, I know this is a hug debate, one that took several pages on the 'New Tag Discution' thread, but whatever.

However, I just looked up the code and you are "partially" right on the last part. In fact, if I recall correct, adding a futa path for Mikoto was already "in progress". I guess this option was if accessible if we convinced him to become a girl.
 
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H game devs with this art style cooking nowadays. Imma try the nts path and hopefully remember to leave a review.
 

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Personally, I hope we can destroy the MC and make his sister a complete cockdrunk degenerate and makes fun of him. The characters are really well developed, so I hope the ntr payoff will be amazing, as this is a slow burn. Slow burn ntr is the absolute best form of ntr (for me) as you can see how everything turns to shit for the one step at a time, while the MC barely has an idea what's going on.

Mereszhka I would like to ask, will there be a lot of sister content? Sister ntr is something that's really rare.
Amazing game btw.
 
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