VN Ren'Py Isabella - Chasing Shadows [Ch. 4.2] [badtimetales]

[Jarulf]

If the story is good enough, I can truly dispense with the porn.

I reserve the term pornography for acts that go out of the boundaries of consent, all the rest, is just sex, and sex is awesome.

Completely agree, I was just trying to be a little catchy in my phrasing.

I've played an otherwise fine game on more than one occasion where I've been annoyed by a sex scene, and just clicked through it so I could get to the more interesting bits.
Often it felt like the dev had put it in there to keep the players happy and it lacked emotion, or was too early in a relationship. (or just ordinary lack of skill on the part of the dev)
Sex without story, without the characters being emotionally involved, can often be a bit boring. This depends on a lot, obviously, but for me it's often true.
Happily, we don't have that problem with this game.

 

[Dessolos]

If the story is good enough, I can truly dispense with the porn. If the story is really, really good, the porn can be insinuated and never shown and I'd be as happy as if it was shown. If the story is amazing, in depth, in scope, in well written, the porn isn't even needed or missed.

And even if this adult, even if this is visual, even if this is a novel, none of that means porn. Sex isn't porn. Sexual acts aren't porn. Sexual innuendos aren't porn. To me, there's really no porn in THIS story. There's depictions of sexual activities between consenting adults, that's just part of life, not something restricted to a pornographic setting.

Calling this porn says a LOT more about upbringings (where naked skin is taboo) than it says about this story.

I don't feel any obligation to follow hypocritical religious concepts about what is "proper" and what is "perversion" from people that did those things in secret while preaching against them in public.

I reserve the term pornography for acts that go out of the boundaries of consent, all the rest, is just sex, and sex is awesome.

Peace

yeah I personally only consider a game a porn game if alot of the scenes feel forced to show lewds or if alot of the scenes feel like something you would scene in a porn. I've played some games where I thought there was to many lewd scenes and I was getting bored with the game even tho everything else I liked about it. I'm glad that isnt a problem here. Honestly the way this game handles the lewd scenes in the story is better than most ive played. It feels like a perfect balance of story progression , character development , fun scenes and a few lewds where it makes sense why they happen when they do and never feel forced. But also im a rare one where I dont play for lewd scenes they are just something nice to look at but yeah this is one of those games you dont really need them to get into the game but appreciate them.

 

[FatGiant]

Completely agree, I was just trying to be a little catchy in my phrasing.

I've played an otherwise fine game on more than one occasion where I've been annoyed by a sex scene, and just clicked through it so I could get to the more interesting bits.
Often it felt like the dev had put it in there to keep the players happy and it lacked emotion, or was too early in a relationship. (or just ordinary lack of skill on the part of the dev)
Sex without story, without the characters being emotionally involved, can often be a bit boring. This depends on a lot, obviously, but for me it's often true.
Happily, we don't have that problem with this game.

I do that on blowjobs. I like to receive them, hate to watch them. To the point that they turn me off. Cunnilingus however... love to do it, love to watch it, when a Dev does it right, I rollback and watch it again, a few times.

I've clicked and clicked out of BJ's. Never once have I stopped or interrupted a good cunny. To be brutally honest, if it is a Lesbian scene it's 100x better, and if it is Lescest, well the sky is not the limit.

All of us have our triggers. I can accept emotionless sex, it's like cheeseless pizza, not what I would ask for, but it's still Pizza. What I simply can't stand is violence of any kind during the sexual act, or, the sexual act as violence. Even if desired by the "victim", it does things to me, things that I can't and will never associate with pleasure. What people call "rough" sex, is too close to the border for my comfort. Still acceptable but too easy to be overdone...

BTT, does this well though. The sex is well done, has its moments, carries the story, without being the story. This is not the rule on this site, it is the exception.

Peace

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

Completely agree, I was just trying to be a little catchy in my phrasing.

I've played an otherwise fine game on more than one occasion where I've been annoyed by a sex scene, and just clicked through it so I could get to the more interesting bits.
Often it felt like the dev had put it in there to keep the players happy and it lacked emotion, or was too early in a relationship. (or just ordinary lack of skill on the part of the dev)
Sex without story, without the characters being emotionally involved, can often be a bit boring. This depends on a lot, obviously, but for me it's often true.
Happily, we don't have that problem with this game.

try to seal my girls every where , now stealing my thoughts and ideas , Back off OR ELSE ?

 

[Jarulf]

Idk, it feels like there is just a sense of maturity to the storytelling here, that you only find in the best games. I'm just playing the throuple path, so can't comment on the others.
While Alex has been in love with the MC for a while, and he needed a little while to realise he loved her too, I'm really enjoying how Isa is slowly being brought in to the relationship small bit by small bit. It's probably a difficult balancing act, the pacing of that, but for me it works very well.

 

[wookie ookie]

If the story is good enough, I can truly dispense with the porn. If the story is really, really good, the porn can be insinuated and never shown and I'd be as happy as if it was shown. If the story is amazing, in depth, in scope, in well written, the porn isn't even needed or missed.

And even if this adult, even if this is visual, even if this is a novel, none of that means porn. Sex isn't porn. Sexual acts aren't porn. Sexual innuendos aren't porn. To me, there's really no porn in THIS story. There's depictions of sexual activities between consenting adults, that's just part of life, not something restricted to a pornographic setting.

Calling this porn says a LOT more about upbringings (where naked skin is taboo) than it says about this story.

I don't feel any obligation to follow hypocritical religious concepts about what is "proper" and what is "perversion" from people that did those things in secret while preaching against them in public.

I reserve the term pornography for acts that go out of the boundaries of consent, all the rest, is just sex, and sex is awesome.

Peace

Nailed it couldn't have been said better

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

Idk, it feels like there is just a sense of maturity to the storytelling here, that you only find in the best games. I'm just playing the throuple path, so can't comment on the others.
While Alex has been in love with the MC for a while, and he needed a little while to realise he loved her too, I'm really enjoying how Isa is slowly being brought in to the relationship small bit by small bit. It's probably a difficult balancing act, the pacing of that, but for me it works very well.

I am very happy for you with Alex man , hoping you live happily ever after , in Far Far away from my Isa.

 

[Dessolos]

I am very happy for you with Alex man , hoping you live happily ever after , in Far Far away from my Isa.

I won't be staying away from Isa

 

[Jarulf]

I've clicked and clicked out of BJ's. Never once have I stopped or interrupted a good cunny. To be brutally honest, if it is a Lesbian scene it's 100x better, and if it is Lescest, well the sky is not the limit.

I don't mind BJs, but it's not really my cuppa. Dicks aren't my cuppa. I often play as a female MC when possible, because I really like it when ladies have fun together, and we're definitely on the same page re lescest.
I don't mind some mild playful spanking (nor I think, does Alex), but anything rougher than that isn't something I enjoy.

 

[Jarulf]

I won't be staying away from Isa

Nor will I, really. Not sure I can

 

[FatGiant]

Idk, it feels like there is just a sense of maturity to the storytelling here, that you only find in the best games. I'm just playing the throuple path, so can't comment on the others.
While Alex has been in love with the MC for a while, and he needed a little while to realise he loved her too, I'm really enjoying how Isa is slowly being brought in to the relationship small bit by small bit. It's probably a difficult balancing act, the pacing of that, but for me it works very well.

Maybe the best throuple story I've read so far. Nothing feels forced (and they should NEVER be) the relationships are evolving in front of our eyes. There's a definitive attraction between all of them and all are warming up to the idea. I find this absolutely delicious.
I do hope that the first scene with Isa, either for Alex of for the MC (or both), doesn't feel like cheating, it would hurt. In my mind, it should happen in a open way. Like something that it was obvious it was coming and that everyone was Ok with. In other words, it was not a matter of IF, but only of WHEN.

While I do love the idea of the throuple, I don't want to see either Alex or Isa hurt, or feeling cheated, or swindled. So far, BTT has been guiding this with a masterful hand, I trust it will continue, but, the specter of seeing pain and distrust in either of the girls (I do like them both equally) brings some undesired feelings.

Peace

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

I won't be staying away from Isa

NOW , I think there is something wrong with me , why they all said Alex is the best and not you , you have to listen to the majority man do not said that should applied on me.

 

[Jarulf]

Maybe the best throuple story I've read so far.

Definitely the best one I've read.

I can imagine a scene between Alex and Isa, where the sexual tension suddenly becomes very real, surprising both of them.
It could be something simple like a friendly hug or kiss, or something a little more involved (an innocent massage of a stiff neck, whatever). But they end up actually talking instead of just being embarrassed and feeling awkward.
Not the best examples, I know, but the point is that something like that might make the two girls realise that they are becoming more than just friends and dealing with it like adults.
I'd like to avoid any sense of cheating too

While I do love the idea of the throuple, I don't want to see either Alex or Isa hurt, or feeling cheated, or swindled. So far, BTT has been guiding this with a masterful hand, I trust it will continue,

He has and I'm definitely with you in trusting this will be really good.
Perhaps though, we should ease off a bit and not build up the pressure too much on poor BTT.

 

[Elduriel]

If the story is good enough, I can truly dispense with the porn. If the story is really, really good, the porn can be insinuated and never shown and I'd be as happy as if it was shown. If the story is amazing, in depth, in scope, in well written, the porn isn't even needed or missed.

And even if this adult, even if this is visual, even if this is a novel, none of that means porn. Sex isn't porn. Sexual acts aren't porn. Sexual innuendos aren't porn. To me, there's really no porn in THIS story. There's depictions of sexual activities between consenting adults, that's just part of life, not something restricted to a pornographic setting.

Calling this porn says a LOT more about upbringings (where naked skin is taboo) than it says about this story.

I don't feel any obligation to follow hypocritical religious concepts about what is "proper" and what is "perversion" from people that did those things in secret while preaching against them in public.

I reserve the term pornography for acts that go out of the boundaries of consent, all the rest, is just sex, and sex is awesome.

Peace

nailed it, I usually just comment on topics like this that it's not a porn game because I'm lazy to write up something like this

 

[Elduriel]

Definitely the best one I've read.

same here... most others with multiple LIs go for the harem option, or the date multiple girls but have to choose option, I have a hard time thinking of an other game where a proper throuple relationship was made well (and I play a lot of them ) Summer Scent comes to mind that does it well (but there are quite a few paths you can take there other than the dual love path)

 

[badtimetales]

can imagine a scene

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......
.........

That's not the first time you are damn close.
Get off my PC!

 

[MAGO-DAG]

I do hope that the first scene with Isa, either for Alex of for the MC (or both), doesn't feel like cheating, it would hurt. In my mind, it should happen in a open way. Like something that it was obvious it was coming and that everyone was Ok with. In other words, it was not a matter of IF, but only of WHEN.

While I do love the idea of the throuple, I don't want to see either Alex or Isa hurt, or feeling cheated, or swindled. So far, BTT has been guiding this with a masterful hand, I trust it will continue, but, the specter of seeing pain and distrust in either of the girls (I do like them both equally) brings some undesired feelings.

Yeaaa, brother gives me hope even more interest in the game

 

[Jarulf]

.That's not the first time you are damn close.
Get off my PC!

Sorry, I'll just leave quietly now by the back door (in your PC)

 

[Dessolos]

same here... most others with multiple LIs go for the harem option, or the date multiple girls but have to choose option, I have a hard time thinking of an other game where a proper throuple relationship was made well (and I play a lot of them ) Summer Scent comes to mind that does it well (but there are quite a few paths you can take there other than the dual love path)

yeah honestly I can only think of 2 other games that have the potential to make a good throuple path and not even sure if those games will have a throuple path or not. Both cases would only work well cause it wouldn't feel forced and the friendship feels very natural and realistic to me like they are friends first. Most throuples I find feel forced at the start and only near the middle or end of the game that path starts to feel less forced.

 

[FatGiant]

same here... most others with multiple LIs go for the harem option, or the date multiple girls but have to choose option, I have a hard time thinking of an other game where a proper throuple relationship was made well (and I play a lot of them ) Summer Scent comes to mind that does it well (but there are quite a few paths you can take there other than the dual love path)

That game breaks my heart. The third girl, can't remember her name, her story simply breaks me. I had to stop playing, it was too fucking close... too fucking close.

Peace