VN Ren'Py Isabella - Chasing Shadows [Ch. 4.3] [badtimetales]

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Ragnar

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The thing with trouples and lesbomancy is to make it optional. Some players love Harems while others prefer single routes. Lesbian action is more tricky because some people hate it. But I think that as long as you give the player the option to choose everything should be fine.
 

badtimetales

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I don't care if there is or isn't Lesbian sex myself or if the girls just dabble in a little of girl on girl action to tease the MC, that would definitely be hot. I like these characters.
The thing with trouples and lesbomancy is to make it optional. Some players love Harems while others prefer single routes. Lesbian action is more tricky because some people hate it. But I think that as long as you give the player the option to choose everything should be fine.
And there we have the problem.

Define lesbian.

The girls kissing to make the MC horny?
A 69 with the MC where the second girl licks the first one?
Or both girls all alone being busy with themselves?
 

AlexMpog

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There are a few users where i really appreciate the feedback.
And they are the ones making me spending some time here. Because 99.9% don't care at all.
Well, I dunno about others feedback, but I do love your game, one of those games which I don't consider as a fuckfest. It has solid and engaging story, well written characters and makes you wanting to immerse yourself into this reality, that's the reason why i play games in the first place..
As for feedback, well, honestly, I played only 2 chapters, i'm waiting it on steam to buy and play it again properly.
For now It just doesn't feel right to give feedback, whether it's negative (I doubt it will be) or positive for smth I played for free and smth I didn't play all the way through.

But yeah, I love your game, I'm totally in love with Isa (and no, Alex lovers, I don't hate Alex, she is actually very sweet in her own way). Also I like it that you made/make fetishes and scenes optional, that means you care about your fanbase, that means a lot.
 
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Ragnar

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And there we have the problem.

Define lesbian.

The girls kissing to make the MC horny?
A 69 with the MC where the second girl licks the first one?
Or both girls all alone being busy with themselves?
I'm not against trouples or lesbian scenes so I can't help you much with it. But I think the safest path is to block any lesbian action for those who choose the single route.
 

Joshy92

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Whatever badtimetales chooses to do
I will always love this game and cherish the time I have spent playing it
It's one of those games that makes me really feel emotions.

I plan on starting all over again once it releases on steam

I do hope the girls can eventually love each other as much as they love the mc though
Because a throuple needs all involved to be equal imo
 

AlexMpog

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Also, since I finally joined discussions in this thread, I want to explain my perspective on lesbian theme, you all have been discussing it recently.

I think you have a wrong opinion about people who doesn't like it.
Some of you assume the it's because cuck/sharing.. Maybe, but not for everybody.
I mean yeah, I am definitely not into sharing somebody I am in love with, whether it's with a girl or guy, but that's not a point.

for me it's a matter of kink/physiology, while somebody will cum while watching two girls fucking each other, for another one it will be a simple turn off

for example i have foot fetish, i mean, i am not into sucking or licking somebody's feet but I do appreciate beautiful feet and footjob whether it's in real life or in the game, and in the meantime majority of man hate it and find it disgusting (or so I've been told)

the same with me and lesbian, I wouldn't say it's a total immediate turn off for me but my boner definitely won't be that hard as is could be with straight sex M/F (I don't find FF hot, and it won't make me horny, it's the opposite)
but again I never complain or harass Devs or players who like it - cause i understand - it's just a matter of taste
and the fact that Developer actually made it optional so everybody could enjoy the game means a lot to me

to summarize, when I immerse myself in a character in a game and then bump into smth i am not into (lesbian or sharing on this matter) - it breaks the immersion and get me as a player frustrated

it's a reason why I usually prefer playing game with solo (monogamous) routes over harem games (or should I call them fuck fests)))), I do play harem games, but I never immerse my self there and just watch it as a simple movie or a porn on this matter

actually now that i think about it, maybe, just maybe, partially, the reason why so many players want to ditch Alex - because they don't like either sharing or FF and throuple usually means both in porn games (cause in realty you actually can have threesome without one girl going down on another one - that i can tell from my own humble experience, it just needs man to be more proactive and initiative))...
 
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Joshy92

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Also, since I finally joined discussions in this thread, I want to explain my perspective on lesbian theme, you all have been discussing it recently.

I think you have a wrong opinion about people who doesn't like it.
Some of you assume the it's because cuck/sharing.. Maybe, but not for everybody.
I mean yeah, I am definitely not into sharing somebody I am in love with, whether it's with a girl or guy, but that's not a point.

for me it's a matter of kink/physiology, while somebody will cum while watching two girls fucking each other, for another one it will be a simple turn off

for example i have foot fetish, i mean, i am not into sucking or licking somebody's feet but I do appreciate beautiful feet and footjob whether it's in real life or in the game, and in the meantime majority of man hate it and find it disgusting (or so I've been told)

the same with me and lesbian, I wouldn't say it's a total immediate turn off for me but my boner definitely won't be that hard as is could be with straight sex M/F
but again I never complain or harass Devs or players who like it - cause i understand - it's just a matter of taste
and the fact that Developer actually made it optional so everybody could enjoy the game means a lot to me

to summarize, when I immerse myself in a character in a game and then bump into smth i am not into (lesbian or sharing on this matter) - it breaks the immersion and get me as a player frustrated

it's a reason why I usually prefer playing game with solo (monogamous) routes over harem games (or should I call them fuck fests)))), I do play harem games, but I never immerse my self there and just watch it as a simple movie or a porn on this matter

actually now that i think about it, maybe, just maybe, partially, the reason why so many players want to ditch Alex - because they don't like either sharing or FF and throuple usually means both in porn games (cause in realty you actually can have threesome without one girl going down on another one - that i can tell from my own humble experience, it just needs man to be more proactive and initiative))...
I'm sort of the same
But for me the reason I usually don't care about lesbian content is not because I don't find it hot
But because It's done without any eroticism
The girls just bang to please the mc or something

But there are a few games that do it really well
And I think this will be another one

I only really play one harem game
And the girls in that love each other as well as the mc
Thats what makes lesbian content sexy imo
 

Elduriel

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Whatever badtimetales chooses to do
I will always love this game and cherish the time I have spent playing it
It's one of those games that makes me really feel emotions.

I plan on starting all over again once it releases on steam

I do hope the girls can eventually love each other as much as they love the mc though
Because a throuple needs all involved to be equal imo
yea I'm with you here, I'm hoping it goes that way. Maybe a system could be added like OBD does to give the option to skip a scene (for the stupid people who don't want to see Isa/Alex action)
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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And there we have the problem.

Define lesbian.

The girls kissing to make the MC horny?
A 69 with the MC where the second girl licks the first one?
Or both girls all alone being busy with themselves?
In answer to your question, respectfully not touching that one. I mentioned Lesbian sex not lesbians. I don't have time to open that can of worms and debate it.

I will elaborate on the throuple situation.
Two girls having sex is Lesbian sex but that doesn't mean they are lesbians. They could be bi or curious or something.
Two girls teasing the MC is just that teasing. They may or may not be straight or bi.
If the girls are right in to lots of threesome sex with each other and the MC then they are probably bi.

My impression from the game is Alex is straight and Isa could swing both ways. I could be wrong, but that is the feeling I got. It doesn't worry me who is what to be honest. I'm not in to two guys but two girls and threesomes are fine. In saying that, its not my game so my opinion doesn't really matter. Its how the dev sees it playing out.
 

divingmedic

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In answer to your question, respectfully not touching that one. I mentioned Lesbian sex not lesbians. I don't have time to open that can of worms and debate it.

I will elaborate on the throuple situation.
Two girls having sex is Lesbian sex but that doesn't mean they are lesbians. They could be bi or curious or something.
Two girls teasing the MC is just that teasing. They may or may not be straight or bi.
If the girls are right in to lots of threesome sex with each other and the MC then they are probably bi.

My impression from the game is Alex is straight and Isa could swing both ways. I could be wrong, but that is the feeling I got. It doesn't worry me who is what to be honest. I'm not in to two guys but two girls and threesomes are fine. In saying that, its not my game so my opinion doesn't really matter. Its how the dev sees it playing out.
The point of most of these games is to let us escape reality and live through the eyes of the MC. Now in real life I'm sure the vast majority of men have never experienced any type of threesome. I love of the idea of a throuple but in reality it would be two women that are pissed off at you instead of one.
 

Joshy92

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I was just on the page as you typed that
Thank you for the update
I can't wait to see my darling Alex again

Alex & Isa are so beautiful
 
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