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Juerhullycin

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she's literally her assistant and she'll say that the boss suspected us of using magic and she knows that mc has a spiritual contract. And mc is definitely in detention pending trial.
he fucked her and she has a grudge against him she is talking mad shit about somebody she has a reason to hate.

MC has the ultimate alibi if he kills her, and that is that everyone in the world knows for a fact that he couldn't have done it.
 

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Lady Vega deserves to enter the harem and receive proper treatment -> Cheap or free alchemical products! :WeSmart:

Since the novel is quite kinetic, there's little the reader can do except cry when things don't turn out the way some people expect them to, right?
Well, freedom of expression is part of the freedom to cry too and vice versa, that's not a bad thing at all.
 

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"MC who has been decently smart, active and generally useful, specially compared to most isekai and AVN MC's didn't instantly kill one of the most important people in the country. It is all ruined and he is a pussy"

It sounds like you guys enjoy larping as edgy cold blooded masterminds on the internet.
 

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By the way the only thing I don't remember is if MC tried to create a firearm ?
 

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he fucked her and she has a grudge against him she is talking mad shit about somebody she has a reason to hate.

MC has the ultimate alibi if he kills her, and that is that everyone in the world knows for a fact that he couldn't have done it.
It was stated that her family is one of the most influential in the kingdom, she is not just a bodyguard, she is probably a noble of some capacity. Her word carries weight, even if the authorities are skeptical, they will still investigate. What will they find? Someone who was involved in the attack against a noble in the brothel case (it was not made public, but the government probably knows what happened, since Fiona had to report to them), someone who sells weird and never seen before items, and someone who had quarreled with the hero (should Tyra ask for him, he would most certainly testify against MC).

That someone was found near the dead body of one of the most proeminent people in the country. Yeh.. Sure.. MC would just make something up and walk away unscathed. Vega was confident enough that the government would side with her even if MC was a noble and he abducted him, but sure, they will just leave her death uninvestigated.
 

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Update felt largely kinetic, just sex scene or not sorta choices. Still needs a gallery, gonna be more annoying the longer it takes as you'll have to replay through to unlock the scenes. But on the other hand Kaela's abs are still fantastic, so there's that.

Should be "Her", talking about a Princess here.
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It was stated that her family is one of the most influential in the kingdom, she is not just a bodyguard, she is probably a noble of some capacity. Her word carries weight, even if the authorities are skeptical, they will still investigate. What will they find? Someone who was involved in the attack against a noble in the brothel case (it was not made public, but the government probably knows what happened, since Fiona had to report to them), someone who sells weird and never seen before items, and someone who had quarreled with the hero (should Tyra ask for him, he would most certainly testify against MC).

That someone was found near the dead body of one of the most proeminent people in the country. Yeh.. Sure.. MC would just make something up and walk away unscathed. Vega was confident enough that the government would side with her even if MC was a noble and he abducted him, but sure, they will just leave her death uninvestigated.
What will they find?
Absolutely nothing will they find.

MC was not reported because the guild leader took the fall for the brothel incident and the attack on the noble.

He lost against the hero very public. So what chance did he have against a grand Mage?

MC is found beside what corpse? There is no corpse because MC can store her in his inventory, an ability that doesn't exist in this world.

They can investigate what they want. All there is to find is a porter without a shred of magical potential that couldn't have done anything.
 

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I think the dev has done a good job, in the sense that it has provoked discussions about the plot. (I hope the dev follows his own original idea and is not influenced by anyone).

What would happen if Lady Vega turns up dead, knowing that she is a powerful mage, a noble, in the scenario that her assistant knew she was under control, the MC and Lady Vega.... Her assistant would have well-founded suspicions, not only to go hunting against the MC, she could also warn some supposed noble ally of Lady Vega because a simple bearer is no match, that would put the MC in the crosshairs of perhaps one or more noble families and before long, royalty.

Lady Vega may have been very aggressive and ruthless in achieving her goal and ambition against the MC, yet who knows if the MC may addict her to his magic cock and eventually align Lady Vega as a powerful ally with ties to the nobility?

It's clear that the MC has shown that he doesn't know a lot of things about how this new world works, but he hasn't shown any signs of being a complete idiot, quite the contrary.
^this all this, lol. The bodyguard that was there, that literally fake-sleep rapes the MC, that can teleport across distances in a flash apparently. That was there to know what Vega was doing, if not the exact extent. We dunno what magic exists like something that could show a crime scene, or long lasting traces of mana, w/e, it would just be too risky no matter what. Idk why thats so hard for people to comprehend. Idk why she even has to vanish/die to begin with, she got bested at her own game, sylph can beat her, why the need for such coldblooded revenge lol. She could have even lied about the spell chopping his member off, we have NO idea ffs. Arguing over damn cliff hangers, when Vega could magically 180 and just be inlove with the MC now and want to help him in every way possible as a valuable asset because his magic dick dumbed her down. Who actually knows?!

Can we also acknowledge he would be putting his teammates, old town, and everyone connected to him at risk too to make such a brash and emotional decision too? I feel like no ones really considering the actual extent of how far the rabbit hole goes, and just using the fact that MC cant be scanned as a get out of jail free card. The bodyguard literally stalked him for months, she knows everything about him outside his affinity to use magic, which was confirmed by his contract with sylph basically.
 
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^this all this, lol. The bodyguard that was there, that literally fake-sleep rapes the MC, that can teleport across distances in a flash apparently. That was there to know what Vega was doing, if not the exact extent. We dunno what magic exists like something that could show a crime scene, or long lasting traces of mana, w/e, it would just be too risky no matter what. Idk why thats so hard for people to comprehend. Idk why she even has to vanish/die to begin with, she got bested at her own game, sylph can beat her, why the need for such coldblooded revenge lol. She could have even lied about the spell chopping his member off, we have NO idea ffs. Arguing over damn cliff hangers, when Vega could magically 180 and just be inlove with the MC now and want to help him in every way possible as a valuable asset because his magic dick dumbed her down. Who actually knows?!

Can we also acknowledge he would be putting his teammates, old town, and everyone connected to him at risk too to make such a brash and emotional decision too? I feel like no ones really considering the actual extent of how far the rabbit hole goes, and just using the fact that MC cant be scanned as a get out of jail free card. The bodyguard literally stalked him for months, she knows everything about him outside his affinity to use magic, which was confirmed by his contract with sylph basically.
The Bodyguard knows exactly nothing about MC because she couldn't follow them into the dungeon, that's why she sleeps with him in the first place, and MC skips town before she wakes up the next morning. You are all making shit up to justify why MC acts like a pussy and lets them walk all over him.

They know nothing about MC. If they find traces of mana, so what? She is a mage, of course, there would be traces of mana if she fought against an attacker.
MC has skills which are from outside the world, they can't anticipate him having skills they don't even know exist.

They know he is a porter who can't use magic. Porters can't use Magic!!!
He can erase every evidence from this world by putting it in his inventory. An inventory that can't exist per the rules of the world. They have zero chance of ever finding it without MC directly telling them.

He can tell them anything from them getting attacked and she was killed to them talking and she left afterwards. There are no witnesses.

MC wouldn't put anyone in danger. They have nothing to even connect the MC to her vanishing, that wouldn't sound like crazy talk to any inhabitants of the world.

All you lot are doing is justifying his behaviour with meta knowledge nobody in the game world has or even could have.

Talking about her making a 180 why the fuck should i want that after what she did? I want to have nothing to do with her. She is not an Asset she is a fucking liability. Even more so when she flips on a dime.
 

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I have already come to the conclusion that this is a fairly kinetic novel, fantasy, the dev tells "his" version of Isekai in his own way and I also don't know the rules of metagaming/powergaming in Renpy or Isekai + I'm not an expert in Isekai, but...
I like the novel as it is, I don't intend to change anything or criticize things that don't seem realistic to me, because it's a fantasy novel and, I accept it as it is.
 

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I'd say that being drugged, kidnapped and then fucked while tied up and cursed with the threat of "losing your dick" would definitely classify as femdom. What happens after is the reversal you're saying, but it 100% starts as femdom. And I called him a pussy by how he reacted to what Sylph said after the act.
He wanted her to fuck him though, because he knew that was his way out. Trick her into thinking her pussy was gold, so she had to fuck him to win, but in doing so led to her ultimate loss (or win I guess, she probably came her brains out) If you classify that as femdom, I guess that's fine. That's just not how I imagine femdom scenes to go. As far as him being a pussy for what he said to Sylph, again naivety, not really pussy behavior. And what he said to Sylph was kinda right in a sense. Killing doesn't solve everything. If anything it could cause more problems. Someone mentioned something about how since he's a porter, no one would suspect MC at all. But that doesn't change the fact that Vega is a prominent person in this world, not to mention based off of context clues she's pretty dang powerful too. The fact that she is actually found dead would probably turn the whole world on it's head. It would make more sense for MC to keep her alive, and per the direction of the story, corrupt her on his dick to gain a powerful ally. Also, he's kinda right in that Sylph views most if not all humans as just other lower tier animals. If the goal of that dialogue and future interactions with her results in her becoming more nuanced in terms of thought, that's all the better. Based on how the MC is described, it makes no sense to turn him into some neanderthal that just kills whatever obstacle that's in his way, until he makes so many enemies he can't overcome them anymore. And if he became so OP that he could, that would just be boring. But hey that's just my 2 cents.
 

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He wanted her to fuck him though, because he knew that was his way out. Trick her into thinking her pussy was gold, so she had to fuck him to win, but in doing so led to her ultimate loss (or win I guess, she probably came her brains out) If you classify that as femdom, I guess that's fine. That's just not how I imagine femdom scenes to go. As far as him being a pussy for what he said to Sylph, again naivety, not really pussy behavior. And what he said to Sylph was kinda right in a sense. Killing doesn't solve everything. If anything it could cause more problems. Someone mentioned something about how since he's a porter, no one would suspect MC at all. But that doesn't change the fact that Vega is a prominent person in this world, not to mention based off of context clues she's pretty dang powerful too. The fact that she is actually found dead would probably turn the whole world on it's head. It would make more sense for MC to keep her alive, and per the direction of the story, corrupt her on his dick to gain a powerful ally. Also, he's kinda right in that Sylph views most if not all humans as just other lower tier animals. If the goal of that dialogue and future interactions with her results in her becoming more nuanced in terms of thought, that's all the better. Based on how the MC is described, it makes no sense to turn him into some neanderthal that just kills whatever obstacle that's in his way, until he makes so many enemies he can't overcome them anymore. And if he became so OP that he could, that would just be boring. But hey that's just my 2 cents.
Did any of you read what appears on the bottom half of the screen? Not just skipping to to the sex scenes for a wank?

It is as if all of you folk did read another story altogether? Let us level a bit to see if we talk about the same game.

1) Was MC in the story you read not transported to a parallel world and receive insanely potent magic powers? MC killed some demonic goblins effortlessly. People don't want to believe him because a single one of them is super strong and dangerous.

2)In the story I read, MC got Status screens and other stuff like in an RPG, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the story you all played? Included was an inventory system that other people in that world don't possess.

3)Did MC not return the dead Porter from the Dungeon he found at the bottom of the trap pit to the women in the village? is that an optional thing?
 

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Did any of you read what appears on the bottom half of the screen? Not just skipping to to the sex scenes for a wank?

It is as if all of you folk did read another story altogether? Let us level a bit to see if we talk about the same game.

1) Was MC in the story you read not transported to a parallel world and receive insanely potent magic powers? MC killed some demonic goblins effortlessly. People don't want to believe him because a single one of them is super strong and dangerous.

2)In the story I read, MC got Status screens and other stuff like in an RPG, but that doesn't seem to be the case for the story you all played? Included was an inventory system that other people in that world don't possess.

3)Did MC not return the dead Porter from the Dungeon he found at the bottom of the trap pit to the women in the village? is that an optional thing?
I'm confused about what any of this has to do with what I said?
 

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^this all this, lol. The bodyguard that was there, that literally fake-sleep rapes the MC, that can teleport across distances in a flash apparently. That was there to know what Vega was doing, if not the exact extent. We dunno what magic exists like something that could show a crime scene, or long lasting traces of mana, w/e, it would just be too risky no matter what. Idk why thats so hard for people to comprehend. Idk why she even has to vanish/die to begin with, she got bested at her own game, sylph can beat her, why the need for such coldblooded revenge lol. She could have even lied about the spell chopping his member off, we have NO idea ffs. Arguing over damn cliff hangers, when Vega could magically 180 and just be inlove with the MC now and want to help him in every way possible as a valuable asset because his magic dick dumbed her down. Who actually knows?!

Can we also acknowledge he would be putting his teammates, old town, and everyone connected to him at risk too to make such a brash and emotional decision too? I feel like no ones really considering the actual extent of how far the rabbit hole goes, and just using the fact that MC cant be scanned as a get out of jail free card. The bodyguard literally stalked him for months, she knows everything about him outside his affinity to use magic, which was confirmed by his contract with sylph basically.
Technically, I'm pretty sure we have an idea that the spell didn't work correctly ie. cutting off MC's dick. Because that was in conjunction with the truth telling spell right? So when she was trying to ask him questions to get answers from him, he said he answered without even thinking, making it seem like the spell went off, but he still had his dick. IE, fucking her so hard she couldn't ask any more questions so he could avoid answering them. Unless I was reading how the spell is supposed to work wrong. :unsure:
 
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It was stated that her family is one of the most influential in the kingdom, she is not just a bodyguard, she is probably a noble of some capacity. Her word carries weight, even if the authorities are skeptical, they will still investigate. What will they find? Someone who was involved in the attack against a noble in the brothel case (it was not made public, but the government probably knows what happened, since Fiona had to report to them), someone who sells weird and never seen before items, and someone who had quarreled with the hero (should Tyra ask for him, he would most certainly testify against MC).

That someone was found near the dead body of one of the most proeminent people in the country. Yeh.. Sure.. MC would just make something up and walk away unscathed. Vega was confident enough that the government would side with her even if MC was a noble and he abducted him, but sure, they will just leave her death uninvestigated.
Not someone making a coherent point that makes sense. Stop! That's not allowed here! o_O
 

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Not someone making a coherent point that makes sense. Stop! That's not allowed here! o_O
honestly, it's tiring to try and reason with people.

The Bodyguard knows exactly nothing about MC because she couldn't follow them into the dungeon, that's why she sleeps with him in the first place, and MC skips town before she wakes up the next morning. You are all making shit up to justify why MC acts like a pussy and lets them walk all over him.
Except she does, because she literally witnessed after he free'd sylph and carried her out of thin air, thus forming a spirit contract with her. Something no human is ever able to achieve, which she seen with her own two eyes.

They know nothing about MC. If they find traces of mana, so what? She is a mage, of course, there would be traces of mana if she fought against an attacker.
MC has skills which are from outside the world, they can't anticipate him having skills they don't even know exist.
They both witnessed MC fight attackers which is what eventually put them on MCs trail because there was a new trace of mana at the time that they picked up on during the fight. Granted they couldn't verifiably prove that it was MC's mana, or that he used magic, but it was enough to make them suspect about MC having magic. They also dont know MC is from another world that whole point is just moot.

They know he is a porter who can't use magic. Porters can't use Magic!!!
He can erase every evidence from this world by putting it in his inventory. An inventory that can't exist per the rules of the world. They have zero chance of ever finding it without MC directly telling them.
And again, The bodyguard witnessed the spirit bond with Sylph, so even if "PORTERS CANT USE MAGIC!!!" he has a great spirit residing within him. Which, if you paid attention to the story, requires a goddess's approval to make a spirit bond. So even moreso arguably, he is not just a simple porter, he is hiding something. Whether it be that he has a blessing, magic, powers, whatever it may be. Thats the key point.

He can tell them anything from them getting attacked and she was killed to them talking and she left afterwards. There are no witnesses.
Except the bodyguard, that somehow made it from the town that took them all day on carriage to get from, to where the explosion with sylph happened, in a record speed to see MC come out of the portal of the spirit world carrying Sylph in his arms. Pretty fucking fast if you ask me. Who is in the vicinity, not dick drunked unconscious, and is also of a noble birth. So, the right hand of the Grand Mage "The Highest Mage" position in the entire kingdom also of a noble descent, isn't just going to go to the king after she goes to check on the dead/missing Grand Mage? And he's gonna be like "Pah! You know nothing you silly girl! she's fine!" right. That makes sense. Meta huh.

MC wouldn't put anyone in danger. They have nothing to even connect the MC to her vanishing, that wouldn't sound like crazy talk to any inhabitants of the world.
So we're just going to ignore the fact that the bodyguard knows his entire party, and he started serving at the guild in the first town, they're all just gonna be ignored? They arent gonna dig into his connections and who he's interacted with? Even willing to push that aside, still his party wouldn't be in the least bit of danger? Huh... Interesting. Who woulda thought becoming an enemy of the kingdom doesn't include your acquaintances who adventure with you?

All you lot are doing is justifying his behaviour with meta knowledge nobody in the game world has or even could have.
Or, hear me out, just actually reading the story and paying attention to things as they're happening. That might be a possibility.

Talking about her making a 180 why the fuck should i want that after what she did? I want to have nothing to do with her. She is not an Asset she is a fucking liability. Even more so when she flips on a dime.
Thats cool, I personally dont mind it because like you claim for us, making all these crazy whimsical assumptions, arent you literally doing the same? You dont even know the extent of what just happened. it was right at the end of the update and you're assuming the worst in everything. MC jizzed before the spell wore off with a 1 hour set timer, and she never said she had to channel it and since we have to take everything at face value, couldn't that be evidence that it was a fluke to make the MC panic and talk? We also never seen her torture anyone before, could she have been lying just to make the MC more anxious? We know Vega isn't exactly a "good" person, and she wants to use the MC as a political leverage point in the courts for whatever reason. Sure, I can understand hating her. But like said if you take all the context clues of the game, the MC literally breaks women with his dick. If he breaks Vega and she swears unwavering loyalty to him. As silly as it would be, it would MAKE SENSE lmao. It's in theme with EVERYTHING up to this point. Slaves just got their damn freedom back and they still dont wanna leave MC's side under zero obligation. Idc if it was the best pussy in the world If I was enslaved for 50 years I'm going out into the world and taking some me time. But thats also me rationalizing myself onto the world too.

But still dont see in what universe you can think killing the highest ranking mage of the kings court, with a bodyguard of noble bloodline being literally in proximity, that can report the crime when she magically disappears, isn't meta itself. You're using his pass as a porter for being the best get out of jail free card meanwhile i'm like "he's a commoner, thats worth nothing to this kingdom, they could literally kill him on principle and no one would give two fucks" But eh I'm tired of breaking this down, I've made my points. I'm at the agree to disagree stage after this because if that doesnt get through, literally nothing will haha.


Keep rocking on developer. Do your story how you want to, I support it.
 

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honestly, it's tiring to try and reason with people.



Except she does, because she literally witnessed after he free'd sylph and carried her out of thin air, thus forming a spirit contract with her. Something no human is ever able to achieve, which she seen with her own two eyes.



They both witnessed MC fight attackers which is what eventually put them on MCs trail because there was a new trace of mana at the time that they picked up on during the fight. Granted they couldn't verifiably prove that it was MC's mana, or that he used magic, but it was enough to make them suspect about MC having magic. They also dont know MC is from another world that whole point is just moot.



And again, The bodyguard witnessed the spirit bond with Sylph, so even if "PORTERS CANT USE MAGIC!!!" he has a great spirit residing within him. Which, if you paid attention to the story, requires a goddess's approval to make a spirit bond. So even moreso arguably, he is not just a simple porter, he is hiding something. Whether it be that he has a blessing, magic, powers, whatever it may be. Thats the key point.



Except the bodyguard, that somehow made it from the town that took them all day on carriage to get from, to where the explosion with sylph happened, in a record speed to see MC come out of the portal of the spirit world carrying Sylph in his arms. Pretty fucking fast if you ask me. Who is in the vicinity, not dick drunked unconscious, and is also of a noble birth. So, the right hand of the Grand Mage "The Highest Mage" position in the entire kingdom also of a noble descent, isn't just going to go to the king after she goes to check on the dead/missing Grand Mage? And he's gonna be like "Pah! You know nothing you silly girl! she's fine!" right. That makes sense. Meta huh.



So we're just going to ignore the fact that the bodyguard knows his entire party, and he started serving at the guild in the first town, they're all just gonna be ignored? They arent gonna dig into his connections and who he's interacted with? Even willing to push that aside, still his party wouldn't be in the least bit of danger? Huh... Interesting. Who woulda thought becoming an enemy of the kingdom doesn't include your acquaintances who adventure with you?



Or, hear me out, just actually reading the story and paying attention to things as they're happening. That might be a possibility.



Thats cool, I personally dont mind it because like you claim for us, making all these crazy whimsical assumptions, arent you literally doing the same? You dont even know the extent of what just happened. it was right at the end of the update and you're assuming the worst in everything. MC jizzed before the spell wore off with a 1 hour set timer, and she never said she had to channel it and since we have to take everything at face value, couldn't that be evidence that it was a fluke to make the MC panic and talk? We also never seen her torture anyone before, could she have been lying just to make the MC more anxious? We know Vega isn't exactly a "good" person, and she wants to use the MC as a political leverage point in the courts for whatever reason. Sure, I can understand hating her. But like said if you take all the context clues of the game, the MC literally breaks women with his dick. If he breaks Vega and she swears unwavering loyalty to him. As silly as it would be, it would MAKE SENSE lmao. It's in theme with EVERYTHING up to this point. Slaves just got their damn freedom back and they still dont wanna leave MC's side under zero obligation. Idc if it was the best pussy in the world If I was enslaved for 50 years I'm going out into the world and taking some me time. But thats also me rationalizing myself onto the world too.

But still dont see in what universe you can think killing the highest ranking mage of the kings court, with a bodyguard of noble bloodline being literally in proximity, that can report the crime when she magically disappears, isn't meta itself. You're using his pass as a porter for being the best get out of jail free card meanwhile i'm like "he's a commoner, thats worth nothing to this kingdom, they could literally kill him on principle and no one would give two fucks" But eh I'm tired of breaking this down, I've made my points. I'm at the agree to disagree stage after this because if that doesnt get through, literally nothing will haha.


Keep rocking on developer. Do your story how you want to, I support it.
Honestly, I think they're wanting MC to be this no shits given, almost 0 moral compass badass that shoots first, and asks questions later. Which we know from what's already in the game that he is NOT that. So far, MC is shown as someone who can think his way out of situations, has a strange set of powers that kinda makes him uber OP, assuming he's fucked a few times before anything actually happens. And most importantly, someone who has a moral compass and can actually think twice before just haphazardly taking another life. I personally like that he put Sylph in her place when she tried suggesting to kill Vega, because 1) it shows that he actually thinks and has a set of moral standards that he abides by, and 2) it further demonstrates that he has a backbone and isn't a "pussy" :ROFLMAO: and is willing to stand up to others who don't align with his morals.

Also, I want to see the corruption stages of Vega turning into a sex obsessed lunatic over MC's dick :LOL:
 
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