Italian website selling porn games and claiming to own the copyright for them

Jackson555

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The significant and should be obvious difference is that ad companies are paying you.
You're not being paid for a product you have no license for.

What exactly are you missing here?
You are being paid for a product you have no license for. You're uploading some wanted media you didn't make, giving it away, and taking ad money from it. That's like uploading the latest UFC fight to YouTube and making ad money from it.
 

おい!

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The thread is only updated when its leaked or released by runey himself. As far a I know, the prerelease 2 is just bug fixes and nothing new added.
Thank you for the response, I do not know the workings of the uploads and wrongly assumed that the OP's of those threads, updated and shared the uploads themselves and not the developers.
 

Jackson555

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It's pretty simple and it all boils down to this: they are profiting from someone else's labor. If they made a translation patch and sold that, it would've been one thing, but reselling the whole game as theirs is a no no.
They are both infringing on the author's IP and scamming their clients by making them pay for a product that was not even meant to be sold. And in doing so they are infringing on Illusion/Kotaku's IP too, since they stated that it's fine to make games with HS screenshots but not to sell them.
There is no reason for those people to gain any money for work they didn't do, it's as simple as that.
Of course we're all on a pirate forum and know people will pirate stuff, but there's a very big difference between sharing pirated software and selling it. Both are illegal, but the second is a more serious offense, to the point that it might even be criminal.
Anything illegal is criminal. And every dev on the site has to deal with others profiting from their work. I just don't see why Runey both, went after this company in particular, and why he cares when no other dev cares.
 

Kaula

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Modern looking website + games that are high quality (ofc they are stealing them) = people paying (thinking they are paying for premium devs and games)

I think that why they are getting sells, someone needs to shut them down, especially ICSTOR, they are using his game renders a lot (you know... for making the website look premium)
 

recreation

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Thank you for the response, I do not know the workings of the uploads and wrongly assumed that the OP's of those threads, updated and shared the uploads themselves and not the developers.
In some cases thats still true, but there are a lot of developers on this forum uploading their stuff themself.
 

Runey

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You mean this one it was not uploaded by Runey.



show me where the latest version is free.
Beta builds of each version (Alpha - Pre Release) are patron only content. The reason for that is to get feedback from a controlled group, and for them to report bugs to me so the official free version is as polished as possible.

Basically, every version is free once it's complete.

All they're doing is the same as everyone else uploading media they didn't make for profit. Well anyway I was just wondering why Runey picked at this particular company when it's just one of hundreds, and why he cares about any of these hundreds of sites doing it when he's still making 8k+ a month like always and it has no effect on him. I would only care If this negatively affected me somehow.
Giochi's business doesn't hurt me that much, maybe a little. The problem here is that they're selling my game and outright saying they made it, or it was sold to them.

In my game, there are multiple links to my Patreon, and it even says "If you bought this, you got scammed.". And I'm certain they removed that, along with all of my links.

This issue isn't about money. This issue is that they're stealing my hard work, claiming they own it, and selling it as their own.

There is a massive difference between Giochi, and F95.

F95 doesn't claim they own the game. F95 actually helps developers. F95 Advertises our games.

Giochi claims they own the game. Giochi steals from developers. Giochi tries to shut down developers from making any money.

edit: If sites like Giochi were to replace sites like F95, you would never see a free porn game again.
 

recreation

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Guys, it's useless, this guy won't understand it, no matter how hard you try. He simply doesn't want to understand it.
 
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EvilUser

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Hey @Runey what happened with that character (I think it was Ashley if I remember correct)? I saw Patreon staff were on you
 

Runey

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Hey @Runey what happened with that character (I think it was Ashley if I remember correct)? I saw Patreon staff were on you
I'm not really sure. To be safe I removed the public download and images of Ashley from my page. I'm not exactly sure what they're asking for. And they still haven't responded. Looks like It'll be next week.
 

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Anything illegal is criminal. And every dev on the site has to deal with others profiting from their work. I just don't see why Runey both, went after this company in particular, and why he cares when no other dev cares.
No. Illegal means being contrary to the law. Criminal means being contrary to criminal law. That's why getting a fine for parking your car in the wrong place is not as serious as getting prosecuted for stealing or punching someone's face.
 

Gutsandguts

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I just find this so strange...

Imagine you were Da Vinci in the modern age and you painted the Mona Lisa, became famous as fuck for it.
Then people started just printing pictures of it off and selling them, claiming that they made it. That they're the ones that put months/years of effort in to creating such artwork.
In what world would that be okay?

Just because other sites do it doesn't make it okay. They have no right to do that what so ever and they're not entitled to do whatever the hell they want just because other people are getting away with it.
Runey is one individual, he/she can't realistically take on 100 websites at once most of whom are probably anonymous entities. 8K or whatever a month sums it up, how could they possibly take them all down?
Doesn't mean it should just be ignored.
 

EvilUser

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I'm not really sure. To be safe I removed the public download and images of Ashley from my page. I'm not exactly sure what they're asking for. And they still haven't responded. Looks like It'll be next week.
Or maybe they will look more thorough of that "issue" and will realize that you are fine :) Anyway, good luck fellow dev!
 
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Imagine you were Da Vinci in the modern age and you painted the Mona Lisa, became famous as fuck for it.
Then people started just printing pictures of it off and selling them, claiming that they made it.
Oh god, please don't compare somebody posing Honey Select models to creating the Mona Lisa. I'm all on Runey's side on this, but please don't compare him to Leonardo da Vinci. I'm getting douche-chills from the pretentiousness.
 
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