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On this note, two more points:
1) So far compared to what I've seen with the actions taken on the JAV sub community that I'm a part of, Patreon (in regards to porn specifically) is actually far more lenient in regards to how they handle possible TOS violations. The fact that they give the content creator a chance to modify their content to meet guidelines is far more generous than what has been done to the other sites I interact with. As an example, one of the businesses I patronize, EroJapanese, got zero chance to "correct" his content before several payment processors kicked him from their service in succession. In fact, he's had to now resort to direct banking transfers to continue operating in terms of "prohibited" content. It's been a struggle, and he's had zero recourse with appealing the decisions from any of them.
2) If you devs are feeling particularly ironic and vindictive, you should be able to in turn get this giocchi fellow kicked from any payment processor he's currently using by levying the same charges he threw at Runey, and he will likely get zero chance to appeal it. However, depending on your personal sense of principle, this may or may not be a hypocritical act.
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Looking at their TOS UA content is still a big no no as the company is United States based but seems to be completely free of the other types of payment processor censorship.
Yeap I was looking at their TOS too, and saw the same thing.
Also this little bit here in their prohibited uses section:
"-In any way that violates any applicable US federal, state, or local law, rule, or regulation (including, without limitation, any intellectual property laws or privacy laws or laws regarding sanctions, or the export of data or software to and from the United States or other countries);"
Means any devs with incest content will have still have to dance around it with Lewdpatcher shenanigans just like on Patreon, since incest is illegal for most of the US states.
Basically, it's great for political free speech, but for our pervy purposes... nothing better.
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There is the TOS and what they'd actually ban for. If the latter doesn't go beyond the TOS wouldn't stuff like incest, beastiality, rape and other fetish content that gets patreon angsty be acceptable on the platform?
Oops sorry, I edited my original response with the additional info, but stuff like incest, bestiality, rape and the like will still be prohibited due to the US federal, state and local laws clause: "-In any way that violates any applicable US federal, state, or local law, rule, or regulation (including, without limitation, any intellectual property laws or privacy laws or laws regarding sanctions, or the export of data or software to and from the United States or other countries);"
All of those subjects are illegal in some form at the US federal and/or state level.
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In the land of milk and honey.Whoa really? Where is F95zone hosted?
No idea, and I hope it's not in the US. Fortunately, the current crackdown is primarily directed at sites that are utilizing some form of payment, so we pirates are kinda overlooked in the scope of this moral crusade. Granted, we're still public enemy #1 for the mainline anti-piracy movement, but since what we're pirating is primarily non-mainstream products like indie porn games, F95 is relatively safe.Whoa really? Where is F95zone hosted
That being said, I like to think of myself as an ethical pirate. 100% of the games I support through Patreon were found through here.
Oh and yes really in regards to US law.
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In the pervert zone.Whoa really? Where is F95zone hosted
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Checked out the TOS of F95zone and how much of it is dedicated towards a disassociation with the content put up by members painted a telling picture of server location. Did some digging and sure enough it seems to be U.S servers. It's a non-issue really because as you mentioned what would the financial motivation of any big dick swingers to go after this site. It seems the only real solution to the censorship in adult games creation is the generation of a blockchain patreon alternative in a country where those things are legal.
Yup. And that brings us to the real conundrum, is there a country where those things are legal and boast the technical infrastructure necessary to actually be a stable host for a site? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but if anyone would like to found the nation of Rapingbearsonia, I'm all ears. ;P
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Lol can you imagine the nationalist pride and national anthem of rapingbearsonia? I figure there are probably a couple countries that have the infrastructure for server hosting and where the desired content types depicted in these games would be legal. It's not like anyone actually has to have sex with their blood relative, a dog or be raped for the content to be produced.
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Whoa really? Where is F95zone hosted
For Firefox you can use the plugin "Flagfox"
Hahaha, it would be definitely something that causes human-BSODs upon listening.
While true, the big sticking point is how that country interprets simulated depictions of said topics. For instance, in the US, lolicon content is not actually outlawed, but a lot of distributors will get hit with child pornography charges or investigations for having it, so they just avoid it altogether. Someone could theoretically fight such a case in litigation, but who wants to go down publicly unmasked as the defender of cartoon kiddie play?
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You do know that you are only seeing the location of Cloudflares servers and not the location of the server hosting this site.
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Thanks, I mostly use chrome but I'll chuck it on firefox. I'm sure there are circumstances where that will come in handy.
I've always found the laws some countries have against depictions really counterproductive and stupid. Their focus should be on the real material.
If you're accessing it through cloudflare does that mean the content fall under US laws anyway?
Reson there is lack of action is because of those of us in the developer community 99% don't make enough money off of our games to afford a lawyer. I'm sure Dark cookie could.
Yea, and the misguided assumption of some people that most game devs are Patreon rich has led to a general apathy towards flagrant abuses by entities like giocchi. Not everybody has that Icstor or Akabur money. If you lads want to start some sort of donor drive for legal fees to fight this, I would consider it a worthy cause to donate to.