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Italian website selling porn games and claiming to own the copyright for them
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Sure if you all band together you can find a lawyer. I mean hell you might have a lawyer who's a big fan of your games who could work pro bono for you. In all honesty i wouldn't roll over and take it. Guy is stealing your shit, you gotta deal with it somehow, even if it means representing yourself in court. The next best bet might be to cut into his market in italy and make him loose business. Say with fan translating games he's advertising and listing them for sale at a low price on the Italian market. Make it unprofitable for him to sell the games he's ripping off by making them available to the market in italy.
Copyright law is a cunt to deal with, i know this being a library composer, so having evidence you made the game in the first place is always a good thing to backup.
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There's a page about it as it uses tokens to pay for a post from a creator. A token is about 0.0012376 ETH.
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As for the setting up part, I wouldn't know as I don't use it though Coinbase and Gemini requires identify verification to purchase Ethereum from them.
I took a look at it to see for myself. I can do it, but I am relatively tech savvy. I can see a less technical person having some issues. You have to download and setup the wallet first, then use a coin exchange like Coinbase to buy Ethereum for your wallet.
Considering the amount of people who can't be bothered to figure out how to use the search function in this forum, I would guess a good number of folks would find the process beyond them.
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Wouldn't it just be easier to use a site like
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that accepts card payments (which is the site
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uses) or maybe even
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if it ever gets up & running, having to mess around with crypto currency would just cause most potential supporters to not bother supporting a developer, you want to make it easier for people not harder. Most people stick with Patreon purely because of the convenience of paypal.
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So you set up the wallet then have to sign up to the coin exchange as well? Either way that's at least two sign up processes including minds itself and the Ethereum. I see the issue. With a heap of creators on there I could see it being worth it to go through the process but starting out would be rocky. It's not like there isn't a big developer hunger for developers to be free of censorship and it's not like users aren't hungry for censorship free games though so I don't know.
Problem with that is why bother with moving away from patreon at all if the censorship is exactly the same on those alternatives? If you've been banned then you're just moving from one chopping block to another.
Pretty much, if we're counting Minds own token process, which requires you to buy tokens with your Ethereum, that's basically three set ups. Ethereum wallet install, coin exchange sign up and purchase, then purchasing Minds tokens with the Ethereum so you can then buy something on Minds. I realistically would want to go through so many hoops to make a transaction only when I need to contract a Colombian hitman to water my daisies while taking out my jackass neighbor.
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The censorship obviously isn't the same that's why MrDots moved DMD from Patreon to Subscribestar, their rules basically boil down to don't break the law & don't be a dick.
I supported MrDots through buymeacoffee before, but this is first I've heard of suscribestar. Interesting.
Damn, it's crypto-based too?
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That sounds wonderful but why don't they get the same harassment from payment proccessors?
and for what it's worth these blockchain patreon alternatives have been popping up in droves this last week
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might be worth seeing which of them rises to the top in regards to mechanics and users if the legal ones aren't a real alternative.
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You can donate with either crypto or card not just crypto. see here -
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No they are using other payment processors, from what I gather because of paypal being dicks last year (dec) subscribestar want nothing to do with them. -
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Well seeing they've ditched paypal altogether with a crypto option that settles it for now. Developers who want to have freedom in what they create should switch to subscribestar.
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AFAIK: We've four legaly scopes here. The payment processors, the website, it's hoster and the dev itself.
As payment processors usully use credit cards and if they use them will have a similar acceptance to this content.
The website (and company behind) must have a ToS that pleased their national law, payment processors and hoster, if their don't host it theirself.
The dev thus must please all the above and should also have their game in the legal scope of their national law, to be 100% safe.
Also the Patreon's purge of adult content came after the adult content was on their site. Most likely that content was "hide" well enough behind all the other. But then they have gained in audience and thus the spotlight was much intensive than before and most likely trigger their 3rd party companies.
I believe that most other "alternative" sites will have to face the same diffuclties than Patreon. The most accepted payment variante on the net is the CC or Paypal as their im most case simple work as a proxy for your CC.
All the other alternatives are either, in my eyes, unusable or ask to much detailes.
As payment processors usully use credit cards and if they use them will have a similar acceptance to this content.
The website (and company behind) must have a ToS that pleased their national law, payment processors and hoster, if their don't host it theirself.
The dev thus must please all the above and should also have their game in the legal scope of their national law, to be 100% safe.
Also the Patreon's purge of adult content came after the adult content was on their site. Most likely that content was "hide" well enough behind all the other. But then they have gained in audience and thus the spotlight was much intensive than before and most likely trigger their 3rd party companies.
I believe that most other "alternative" sites will have to face the same diffuclties than Patreon. The most accepted payment variante on the net is the CC or Paypal as their im most case simple work as a proxy for your CC.
All the other alternatives are either, in my eyes, unusable or ask to much detailes.
- Wire transfer needs details of both parties and even then must follow some rules
- Same for all other types of "card" cash regardles if it's debit cards, gift cards and so own
- Cryptocurrency seen the only option to avoid this additional rule set.
- They, from payment processors, and thus to some degree also goverment, side aren't well regard and if they could do it simple would most likely to put them in some iron corset.
- You must buy or scrape them.
- If you buy, then you have again your payment processors
- And scraping is time intensive and cost intensive, which is for most of us inpractical. Also I don't wan't to have to wait for a game only because I must scrape my coins first.
- Exchanges rate is most instable. Sure other countries has sometimes the same issue, but the "big" currency are "most" stable. So your x coins of cryptocurrency are today m $ worth and tomorrow n $ worth. It is all nice if m >= n, but if n >> m then it sucks.
Speaking of TOS's if you are a developer getting money from anything adult content related sent to your Paypal or Payoneer account it is against there TOS and they can take the money and close your account so unless you are getting a direct wire transfer of your payments for the other sites then you are walking a fine line. Which is why it is better to use crypto. Also lots of bashing my site
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like I said before it's in beta we have not added a CC processor yet as it's quite costly on our end and would need investors to help pull that off. Also, the two major factors are its crowdfunding plus adult content which both by themselves is high risk. You add in Taboo content makes it even costlier. Subscribestar is owned by some Russian oligarch who is out to make money off of you. I'm simply trying to make a site for Developers by Developers. Also adding in CC will add fees as well no way around that.