VN Ren'Py It's Just a Game [v0.4.1] [DigiDec]

[DigiDec]

Futa games, I think the best ones don't have men, so that's a bit tricky. But Eruption Imminent, Futagenesis Unveiled, Having a Hard Time, Inner Growth, Instinct Unleashed, and Tower of Dreams would all get my recommendation. Unveiling the Unknown is good too, but seems like a different genre in a way.

For Futa on male, the one I can think of that is good is Luna's Chosen. But I've got a bit of a block with some of that content. It's all good, except for when the guy goes down on the futa, for some reason that doesn't work for me.

Those will probably help with a lot of Sara's scenes.

I'm kind of the same with futa on male. I'm not offended or repulsed by it or anything, but the actual parts about the man getting penetrated don't arouse me. Hopefully, after I get through some of the suggestions I've gotten so far I can understand it enough to fake it a little.

 

[motseer]

I thought I would let this conversation pass by. But I guess I will have to weigh in. The first time I see Futa or Trans on male content will be the last you see or hear from me. I'm pretty sure that is representative of about 97% of the male population on the planet. Jus' Sayin'

 

[Hungover00]

Those will probably help with a lot of Sara's scenes.

I'm kind of the same with futa on male. I'm not offended or repulsed by it or anything, but the actual parts about the man getting penetrated don't arouse me. Hopefully, after I get through some of the suggestions I've gotten so far I can understand it enough to fake it a little.

Oh, absolutely no judgement from me either. But other things I am more uninterested in can still work if it's well done (foot stuff, some NTR, etc.) and other things just yank me out of the eroticism (watersports, most NTR, m/m, male on futa oral sex). Just seems to be a wiring thing, not a moral judgement aspect. Same for humiliation, or more extreme levels of pain infliction, those aren't appealing at all to me. But I know there is an audience for that stuff.

I thought I would let this conversation pass by. But I guess I will have to weigh in. The first time I see Futa or Trans on male content will be the last you see or hear from me. I'm pretty sure that is representative of about 97% of the male population on the planet. Jus' Sayin'

I think, for me, one of the issues with Futa/Trans on male content is it is usually also layered with more extreme femdom practices, so it's never just the Futa aspect. It's like pegging, I don't have an issue with it on its own, but it usually comes bundled with things I don't like so it's very rarely for me. But everyone has their own unique mix of likes/dislikes, so it can get rather convoluted, unless you lean into specific kinks, or go for the broadly accepted/popular preferences.

 

[Dr. Mick]

Fem-dom is a bit out of my purview, but I believe a gold standard game for that is Karlsson's Gambit. It's an excellent game, I just prefer the male-dom route.

Good choice if someone is looking for fem-dom content.
That's one that makes it difficult to avoid. Even if you're hoping to go the more dominant route with the MC, it can be somewhat detrimental to the progression of the storyline, depending on what you hope to accomplish.

Fem-dom is a bit harder for me to recommend, because while I've played a few games that had it I tend to either avoid it, skip those parts/scenes, find that it is way more hardcore than I like, or discover it's such a central or main part of the story that I end up not continuing.
To each their own.

 

[DigiDec]

I thought I would let this conversation pass by. But I guess I will have to weigh in. The first time I see Futa or Trans on male content will be the last you see or hear from me. I'm pretty sure that is representative of about 97% of the male population on the planet. Jus' Sayin'

I suppose I should've explicitly stated it would be optional. If it ends up in the game it would play like the very first scene with Sin-D where the player gets to choose what the MC does.

I haven't done that with any of the other sex scenes, as far as offering variations as opposed to just skipping, because I felt the content was already pretty vanilla but anything that starts getting into more extreme territory will probably have a tamer alternative.

Hypothetically speaking, maybe there's a scene with Sara that's sort of a 'Sara' scene where you have a threesome with her and Kelli or someone else. She'll probably have a strap on or maybe some other sex toy, and the sex would overall probably be a little on the rougher side with both of you degrading and/or dominating Kelli. There probably won't be a more tame version of this unless I make it pretty extreme with the bdsm aspects.

Conversely, there might be a threesome scene with Sara and Nat, or Mol. This might not be a 'Sara' scene so if there's a version involving Sara using sex toys or penetrating the other girl in some way that would be optional.

 

[motseer]

Oh, absolutely no judgement from me either. But other things I am more uninterested in can still work if it's well done (foot stuff, some NTR, etc.) and other things just yank me out of the eroticism (watersports, most NTR, m/m, male on futa oral sex). Just seems to be a wiring thing, not a moral judgement aspect. Same for humiliation, or more extreme levels of pain infliction, those aren't appealing at all to me. But I know there is an audience for that stuff.



I think, for me, one of the issues with Futa/Trans on male content is it is usually also layered with more extreme femdom practices, so it's never just the Futa aspect. It's like pegging, I don't have an issue with it on its own, but it usually comes bundled with things I don't like so it's very rarely for me. But everyone has their own unique mix of likes/dislikes, so it can get rather convoluted, unless you lean into specific kinks, or go for the broadly accepted/popular preferences.

What you have essentially pointed out is that any dev who wants to take a title into these extreme kinks is risking a lot just to cater to the fetishes of a tiny percentage of the population. It's not about good kinks vs bad kinks or any form of judgement. Without engaging in kink shaming it is still fair to point out a simple function of demographics. i.e. Most people are not into these extreme fringe fetishes.

 

[Hungover00]

Adding it to the list. Thanks!

Oh "Nothing is Forever" is a really good game, and it has a few dedicated Fem-dom routes. Extrapolating from the rest of the game, it's probably a good source for inspiration.

 

[Hungover00]

What you have essentially pointed out is that any dev who wants to take a title into these extreme kinks is risking a lot just to cater to the fetishes of a tiny percentage of the population. It's not about good kinks vs bad kinks or any form of judgement. Without engaging in kink shaming it is still fair to point out a simple function of demographics. i.e. Most people are not into these extreme fringe fetishes.

Yeah, it kind of forces devs to commit to either lowest common denominator/vanilla content that will offend the fewest people, or specialising in one bundle of kinks that will have a big enough audience to sustain the project but will likely not be known outside that audience. That's probably over-simplifying things, but it does seem to be the spectrum most games find themselves on.

 

[motseer]

I suppose I should've explicitly stated it would be optional. If it ends up in the game it would play like the very first scene with Sin-D where the player gets to choose what the MC does.

I haven't done that with any of the other sex scenes, as far as offering variations as opposed to just skipping, because I felt the content was already pretty vanilla but anything that starts getting into more extreme territory will probably have a tamer alternative.

Hypothetically speaking, maybe there's a scene with Sara that's sort of a 'Sara' scene where you have a threesome with her and Kelli or someone else. She'll probably have a strap on or maybe some other sex toy, and the sex would overall probably be a little on the rougher side with both of you degrading and/or dominating Kelli. There probably won't be a more tame version of this unless I make it pretty extreme with the bdsm aspects.

Conversely, there might be a threesome scene with Sara and Nat, or Mol. This might not be a 'Sara' scene so if there's a version involving Sara using sex toys or penetrating the other girl in some way that would be optional.

Yeah, and this is why it gets hard to even discuss these things in a development thread. You are smart to "test the waters" first rather than deal with blowback after the fact. Both scenes you describe are at least marginally acceptable to most folks. Still, you may lose some potential supporters even just putting a strap-on on one of the girls. Personally, I have no problem with it. Where you start to get into deep waters is when people start lobbying for a scene where MC fucks Nat while Sara pegs MC. Trust me. The shit will hit the fan when you go there. Just be wary. The people who promote for extreme fetishes say it often and say it loud. It doesn't change the fact that when you lump all the LGBT people together you still on have about 7% of total population. That's just a fact.

 

[Dr. Mick]

In short, there are a few things that are a definite no for me, though it is a rather small list.
However, as long as what I'm reading makes those optional, without affect to the storyline itself, then I'm perfectly fine with them being in the game/novel.

It's exceedingly difficult to classify what fetishes/kinks are "extreme", and doing so is a slippery slope. Which is partially why it's hard to decide what to include in any given project when/if you're taking supporter input for upcoming scenes and content.
For some people watersports are tame, while for others doggystyle is scandalous. That's why some topics or content can be so divisive.

Trying to appeal to or appease everyone simply won't work. It's why I always suggest to anyone creating something to make what they like, share it, look forward to those that enjoy it, and don't take personally those that don't.
Afterall, it's just a game

 

[DigiDec]

Yeah, it kind of forces devs to commit to either lowest common denominator/vanilla content that will offend the fewest people, or specialising in one bundle of kinks that will have a big enough audience to sustain the project but will likely not be known outside that audience. That's probably over-simplifying things, but it does seem to be the spectrum most games find themselves on.

Yeah and while I understand some people might have strong objections to some 'extreme' content so much that they'd avoid a game entirely even if it's avoidable (there are some games on this site that I feel this way about) I'm still sometimes surprised by what makes that cut. Not to say I'm surprised people aren't interested in certain content, but that they'll refuse to even play games that have options as straightforward as "No, I don't want someone else to fuck this girl. vs Yes, I'm okay with someone else fucking this girl. "

Yeah, and this is why it gets hard to even discuss these things in a development thread. You are smart to "test the waters" first rather than deal with blowback after the fact. Both scenes you describe are at least marginally acceptable to most folks. Still, you may lose some potential supporters even just putting a strap-on on one of the girls. Personally, I have no problem with it. Where you start to get into deep waters is when people start lobbying for a scene where MC fucks Nat while Sara pegs MC. Trust me. The shit will hit the fan when you go there. Just be wary. The people who promote for extreme fetishes say it often and say it loud. It doesn't change the fact that when you lump all the LGBT people together you still on have about 7% of total population. That's just a fact.

It's probably going to be tricky for me to balance. A theme/concept for this game is the whole 'normal vanilla guy's life becomes shockingly pornographic' and that 'shockingly' part necessitates some more extreme content. It's also why I've repeatedly pointed out that this will not be a love story. I obviously don't want to make this a niche game that caters to one specific kink/fetish group but if all the sexy stuff ends up being vanilla lovey-dovey romantic sex with stereotypically attractive character models the game kind of loses a core theme. Not saying that was what you were advocating for at all, I'm just using it as an example.

In short, there are a few things that are a definite no for me, though it is a rather small list.
However, as long as what I'm reading makes those optional, without affect to the storyline itself, then I'm perfectly fine with them being in the game/novel.

It's exceedingly difficult to classify what fetishes/kinks are "extreme", and doing so is a slippery slope. Which is partially why it's hard to decide what to include in any given project when/if you're taking supporter input for upcoming scenes and content.
For some people watersports are tame, while for others doggystyle is scandalous. That's why some topics or content can be so divisive.

Trying to appeal to or appease everyone simply won't work. It's why I always suggest to anyone creating something to make what they like, share it, look forward to those that enjoy it, and don't take personally those that don't.
Afterall, it's just a game

I see what you did there...

The initial reactions to this game were much less enthusiastic before 0.2 went public. Obviously part of that was just expanding the audience some, 0.1's are usually pretty skippable, but I think part of it had to do with people being a little unsure about the content in general.


Like I've said before, I have a pretty clear idea of what type of game I want to make. I'm flexible about some of the details but at heart I am a dirty money grubbing bastard with zero integrity who is willing to sell out completely for a relatively meager sum of money.

 

[yoyomistro]

I thought I would let this conversation pass by. But I guess I will have to weigh in. The first time I see Futa or Trans on male content will be the last you see or hear from me. I'm pretty sure that is representative of about 97% of the male population on the planet. Jus' Sayin'

Oh, absolutely no judgement from me either. But other things I am more uninterested in can still work if it's well done (foot stuff, some NTR, etc.) and other things just yank me out of the eroticism (watersports, most NTR, m/m, male on futa oral sex). Just seems to be a wiring thing, not a moral judgement aspect. Same for humiliation, or more extreme levels of pain infliction, those aren't appealing at all to me. But I know there is an audience for that stuff.



I think, for me, one of the issues with Futa/Trans on male content is it is usually also layered with more extreme femdom practices, so it's never just the Futa aspect. It's like pegging, I don't have an issue with it on its own, but it usually comes bundled with things I don't like so it's very rarely for me. But everyone has their own unique mix of likes/dislikes, so it can get rather convoluted, unless you lean into specific kinks, or go for the broadly accepted/popular preferences.

Uh, actual porn consumption would wildly disprove your "97%" assumption. The fact is that most people who consume porn with trans women, including content where trans women top, identify as straight men, and that content is produced by a lot of mainstream outfits these days and constitutes a significant part of their catalogue. Also, gay men are overwhelmingly (this would probably actually fit your 97% number) not into trans women at all. Shocking (not really), but true.

The problem is as Hungover00 indicated, that a lot of the time futa and trans content gets bundled with a bunch of other stuff that people who would be ok with trans content might not be into, like femdom (and futadom as its own entirely different category with all the third gender work out there now), humiliation, slave content, forced feminization, and other hard kinks that are entirely tertiary to the futa/trans content.

Also the thing with the futa-on-male people is that they are extremely adamant about that content. You can look at the bigger futa-on-male games and see that they generally have a consistent and persistent base of support. However, none of them is nearly as big as the biggest male-on-futa game, which is Twisted World. This is a situation where you have an actual, factual vocal minority, and they very much would like to be catered to. To be fair to them, they do spend their money to support good content of what they like.

Personally, I'm a fan of switch content with a masculine straight guy, and whenever I say that a lot of people seem to indicate that they are too. You are just never gonna encounter people rabidly agitating for that content, and that might lead you to think it's less popular than it is. Also for some reason most vocal people are fans of strictly futa-on-male or male-on-futa, and they tend to but heads with each other for some reason...

But also, most devs don't even make actual good trans characters. The few titles with trans characters (as opposed to futa as a an entirely fictional category) that are believable tend to generally be well received in terms of their implementation, especially if they're optional (generally polling on including trans characters in games with masculine male MCs tend to have 30-45% of people in favor of it, so it's not as controversional as some would have you believe). You can see Parental Love/Apartment 69 by Luxee, Depravity by Dante (he doesn't update often, so he's lost a lot of support over the years... same with Luxee recently, actually...), S.H.E.L.T.E.R. and Stellar Dream by Winterlook. Those are the ones that are easy for me to remember, there are others.

For example, Nenad Asenovic had a game with 0 futa/trans characters whatsoever as his first game, and Patreon polled on including some in his second game (this poll was for paid subscribers only, so no brigading or pollution) and I think the final tally was like 40% or so in favor. I'm not a patron of his anymore so I can't pull it up, but yea having optional futa/trans content is not gonna drive droves of people away. The people who are scared off will probably be very loud about it though.

God, I need to learn to get my points across with fewer words, but I'm trying to provide a comprehensive view of the topic here, lol...

 

[DigiDec]

Uh, actual porn consumption would wildly disprove your "97%" assumption. The fact is that most people who consume porn with trans women, including content where trans women top, identify as straight men, and that content is produced by a lot of mainstream outfits these days and constitutes a significant part of their catalogue. Also, gay men are overwhelmingly (this would probably actually fit your 97% number) not into trans women at all. Shocking (not really), but true.

The problem is as Hungover00 indicated, that a lot of the time futa and trans content gets bundled with a bunch of other stuff that people who would be ok with trans content might not be into, like femdom (and futadom as its own entirely different category with all the third gender work out there now), humiliation, slave content, forced feminization, and other hard kinks that are entirely tertiary to the futa/trans content.

Also the thing with the futa-on-male people is that they are extremely adamant about that content. You can look at the bigger futa-on-male games and see that they generally have a consistent and persistent base of support. However, none of them is nearly as big as the biggest male-on-futa game, which is Twisted World. This is a situation where you have an actual, factual vocal minority, and they very much would like to be catered to. To be fair to them, they do spend their money to support good content of what they like.

Personally, I'm a fan of switch content with a masculine straight guy, and whenever I say that a lot of people seem to indicate that they are too. You are just never gonna encounter people rabidly agitating for that content, and that might lead you to think it's less popular than it is. Also for some reason most vocal people are fans of strictly futa-on-male or male-on-futa, and they tend to but heads with each other for some reason...

But also, most devs don't even make actual good trans characters. The few titles with trans characters (as opposed to futa as a an entirely fictional category) that are believable tend to generally be well received in terms of their implementation, especially if they're optional (generally polling on including trans characters in games with masculine male MCs tend to have 30-45% of people in favor of it, so it's not as controversional as some would have you believe). You can see Parental Love/Apartment 69 by Luxee, Depravity by Dante (he doesn't update often, so he's lost a lot of support over the years... same with Luxee recently, actually...), S.H.E.L.T.E.R. and Stellar Dream by Winterlook. Those are the ones that are easy for me to remember, there are others.

For example, Nenad Asenovic had a game with 0 futa/trans characters whatsoever as his first game, and Patreon polled on including some in his second game (this poll was for paid subscribers only, so no brigading or pollution) and I think the final tally was like 40% or so in favor. I'm not a patron of his anymore so I can't pull it up, but yea having optional futa/trans content is not gonna drive droves of people away. The people who are scared off will probably be very loud about it though.

God, I need to learn to get my points across with fewer words, but I'm trying to provide a comprehensive view of the topic here, lol...

We get verbose in this thread. I'm super guilty of it so I won't be judging anyone.

I think attitudes towards trans/futa content have shifted a lot relatively recently. Sort of like an Overton window shift but with porn. Pornhub will regularly feature that stuff on the front page even if you reset the algorithm. There are definitely still people who are very much opposed to it and some of that might be a bit of a generational thing, when I was younger we didn't even have a lot of the words we use now to describe trans people*.

You touch on this but there's also a sort of 'shared language' aspect to these games. If you have futa-on-male, it's going to be femdom. If you have harem, it's going to be romantic etc... I like the general concepts of heavy corruption/transformation but outside of the standard corruption style games where the MC gets a magic wand/genie/potion that turns all of his female acquaintances into nymphomaniacs exclusive to him, most games that deal with corruption/transformation (especially if there is some feminization or bimbofication) are focused on the MC being the one who gets transformed/feminized.

Anyways, good discussion all around. Thank you for staying respectful towards each other. Here's another preview image for 0.3

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[RandomGuy99]

We get verbose in this thread. I'm super guilty of it so I won't be judging anyone.

I think attitudes towards trans/futa content have shifted a lot relatively recently. Sort of like an Overton window shift but with porn. Pornhub will regularly feature that stuff on the front page even if you reset the algorithm. There are definitely still people who are very much opposed to it and some of that might be a bit of a generational thing, when I was younger we didn't even have a lot of the words we use now to describe trans people*.

You touch on this but there's also a sort of 'shared language' aspect to these games. If you have futa-on-male, it's going to be femdom. If you have harem, it's going to be romantic etc... I like the general concepts of heavy corruption/transformation but outside of the standard corruption style games where the MC gets a magic wand/genie/potion that turns all of his female acquaintances into nymphomaniacs exclusive to him, most games that deal with corruption/transformation (especially if there is some feminization or bimbofication) are focused on the MC being the one who gets transformed/feminized.

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What is she holding btw ? I'm all in for harem for MC. It would also interesting if somehow the AI is mind controlling/corrupting the LIs behind his back since she states that her purpose is to assist MC

 

[DigiDec]

What is she holding btw ? I'm all in for harem for MC. It would also interesting if somehow the AI is mind controlling/corrupting the LIs behind his back since she states that her purpose is to assist MC

Normally I try to spread the teasers out a little bit over different scenes but I'll give you a clear picture of it next time.

 

[Dr. Mick]

What is she holding btw ? I'm all in for harem for MC. It would also interesting if somehow the AI is mind controlling/corrupting the LIs behind his back since she states that her purpose is to assist MC

Looks like a paddle. Obviously can't be certain; just seems as though that's what it is.

 

[motseer]

Uh, actual porn consumption would wildly disprove your "97%" assumption. The fact is that most people who consume porn with trans women, including content where trans women top, identify as straight men, and that content is produced by a lot of mainstream outfits these days and constitutes a significant part of their catalogue. Also, gay men are overwhelmingly (this would probably actually fit your 97% number) not into trans women at all. Shocking (not really), but true.

The problem is as Hungover00 indicated, that a lot of the time futa and trans content gets bundled with a bunch of other stuff that people who would be ok with trans content might not be into, like femdom (and futadom as its own entirely different category with all the third gender work out there now), humiliation, slave content, forced feminization, and other hard kinks that are entirely tertiary to the futa/trans content.

We get verbose in this thread. I'm super guilty of it so I won't be judging anyone.

I think attitudes towards trans/futa content have shifted a lot relatively recently. Sort of like an Overton window shift but with porn. Pornhub will regularly feature that stuff on the front page even if you reset the algorithm. There are definitely still people who are very much opposed to it and some of that might be a bit of a generational thing, when I was younger we didn't even have a lot of the words we use now to describe trans people*.

Nope. You have both failed to understand the point I made. The "conversation" that I am refering to is "Futa/Trans/Femdom on Male. That has been the thrust of the conversation for the last several pages. There is a major difference between a Trans woman who identifies as female and a Trans woman who wants to dominate a man. The former likely involves anal sex with the Trans woman on the receiving end. The latter likely involves "pegging". I don't toss out numbers without doing my research so, trust me when I say that last scene appeals to approximately 3% of the population.

Anyway, I have said my peace. I said it simply because I felt a few loud voices were putting undue weight on one side of the conversation and I decided to speak up. I've made my point. You'll hear no more from me on this subject. I'll either be around or I won't. Time will tell.

 

[yoyomistro]

Nope. You have both failed to understand the point I made. The "conversation" that I am refering to is "Futa/Trans/Femdom on Male. That has been the thrust of the conversation for the last several pages. There is a major difference between a Trans woman who identifies as female and a Trans woman who wants to dominate a man. The former likely involves anal sex with the Trans woman on the receiving end. The latter likely involves "pegging". I don't toss out numbers without doing my research so, trust me when I say that last scene appeals to approximately 3% of the population.

Anyway, I have said my peace. I said it simply because I felt a few loud voices were putting undue weight on one side of the conversation and I decided to speak up. I've made my point. You'll hear no more from me on this subject. I'll either be around or I won't. Time will tell.

Yea, if it's femdom content and not switch, that's gonna be a strict minority for sure. I thought you were roping switch content in with that too. I get your point, but the point of the wall-of-text was to say that there's plenty of people who are into non-domination switch content I guess.

EDIT: Also, all of this can eventually be solved with simple menu options:

In screens somewhere:

screen content():

    tag menu



    use game_menu(_("Content Options"), scroll="viewport"):

            hbox:

                box_wrap True

            vbox:

                    style_prefix "radio"

                    label _("Show futa/trans sex scenes")

                    if not persistent.trans:

                        textbutton _("Disabled") action ToggleField(persistent, "trans")

                    else:

                        textbutton _("Enabled") action ToggleField(persistent, "trans")



            vbox:

                    style_prefix "radio"

                    label _("Show switch sex scenes")

                    if not persistent.switch:

                        textbutton _("Disabled") action ToggleField(persistent, "switch")

                    else:

                        textbutton _("Enabled") action ToggleField(persistent, "switch")

In game scripts:

menu whatugonnado:

    "Some mutual action" if persistent.switch and persistent.trans:

        jump switchdick

    "Fuck her ass" if persistent.trans:

        jump inherbutt

   "Nah I'm good homie":

       jump laaaaaame

EZ.

 

[DigiDec]

Nope. You have both failed to understand the point I made. The "conversation" that I am refering to is "Futa/Trans/Femdom on Male. That has been the thrust of the conversation for the last several pages. There is a major difference between a Trans woman who identifies as female and a Trans woman who wants to dominate a man. The former likely involves anal sex with the Trans woman on the receiving end. The latter likely involves "pegging". I don't toss out numbers without doing my research so, trust me when I say that last scene appeals to approximately 3% of the population.

Anyway, I have said my peace. I said it simply because I felt a few loud voices were putting undue weight on one side of the conversation and I decided to speak up. I've made my point. You'll hear no more from me on this subject. I'll either be around or I won't. Time will tell.

No, I got your point, sorry if I wasn't more clear on that. It wasn't my intention to brush aside your comment, I was more speaking in generalities about futa/trans content being more mainstream in porn than it was a few years ago. Then I was alluding to assumptions players make about directions a game might be heading because, in fairness, that's the direction most of these games end up going. Sort of like how a lot of people were expecting Ness to be a sadistic domme.

I don't know what the actual numbers are but it's probably safe to assume that the audience for male-on-trans or trans-on-female is much, much higher than the audience for trans-on-male. And that content is probably much less likely to provoke a visceral negative reaction.

As I've mentioned before, almost all of the sexual content will be skippable, even the vanilla stuff, and the further we go from mainstream appeal the more likely I am to offer alternative scenes. I hope that nothing ends up being a deal breaker for you because I've enjoyed your feedback and I was looking forward to seeing more.

 

[AlterdStates7]

The people who are scared off will probably be very loud about it though.

This. Since everyone has been relatively respectful this is as far as I'm gonna take that thought. As someone who enjoys all the content that's been discussed here whether it's Male on Futa, Futa on Male or MFF with the MC and a LI dominating another character, I might not be feeling all that content all the time. So I usually prefer to have the choice in each situation. Regardless of personal preference this one seems interesting, best of luck to the dev going forward.