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same here, more than 1500 trys to access my location from jack file. I am using the dev version from here: " " This is not normal
I noticed this, too. It started with 2.2. The code doesn't show any obvious reason for it. There's nothing telling the qsp code to repeat calls like that and using older exes doesn't stop it. It also starts the calls before the game fully launches. It started at about the time the code changed to using the dynamic method to call slaves/assistants. The engine was overhauled at this point as well. My best guess it that's related to the engine. I looked at the exe and nothing seems to be sending data anywhere. It just makes calls. Although I don't have specific knowledge of the engine, so I could be wrong.

Edit: Definitely the engine. I tested an old copy of 2.1's engine in 2.2 and got no calls. Probably worth mentioning that the game doesn't work without the updated engine in case someone else tries it.
 
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I noticed this, too. It started with 2.2. The code doesn't show any obvious reason for it. There's nothing telling the qsp code to repeat calls like that and using older exes doesn't stop it. It also starts the calls before the game fully launches. It started at about the time the code changed to using the dynamic method to call slaves/assistants. The engine was overhauled at this point as well. My best guess it that's related to the engine. I looked at the exe and nothing seems to be sending data anywhere. It just makes calls. Although I don't have specific knowledge of the engine, so I could be wrong.

Edit: Definitely the engine. I tested an old copy of 2.1's engine in 2.2 and got no calls. Probably worth mentioning that the game doesn't work without the updated engine in case someone else tries it.
Yes, it’s on the list of unsolved mysteries. Since it doesn’t send anything it’s not a concern. It may go away when we upgrade the engine core.
 

lhucio

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I’ve been playing for two days now. Since 2020 I must have played this game about 4 or 5 times, around 30 hours each time, and for the first time I was thinking:

Hell yeah!! I finally know how to play, I’m taming slaves with Jhony since day 1, and i am making lots of money on day 200 like a damn pro!... But my excitement didn’t last long when I saw that the difficulty was set per default to easy, without any warning...
 

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I’ve been playing for two days now. Since 2020 I must have played this game about 4 or 5 times, around 30 hours each time, and for the first time I was thinking:

Hell yeah!! I finally know how to play, I’m taming slaves with Jhony since day 1, and i am making lots of money on day 200 like a damn pro!... But my excitement didn’t last long when I saw that the difficulty was set per default to easy, without any warning...
I hate the idea too. This came from a miscommunication in the dev channel. You'll notice that one task in the roadmap says to put back normal obedience difficulty in the story mode. Good luck on trying to master normal difficulty mode next!
 
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Tykopulus

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Hello everyone

I played Jack o nine years ago... but with my reastart i only getting problems...

I have multiple questions.

1. Why does my slave or assistent not start the day with 5 but only 2 or 3 energie? At the end of the previouse day energie was at +/- 0 so not below 0 Energie (so i did not overdue training / work) They also didnt have automated work like bath me, cook at the end of the day etc. i do that all manually with the energie they have.
2. It there a overview what actions increases / decreases the attributes of a slave? (very important!)
3. Why does my asistant / Slave gets spoiled (according to the aura) when they are naked... sleep on a bedroll, get normal food and are not praised more then the daylie success is (when a slave get an excelent (2) i only do level 1 or 2 praise)
4. The part of the combat System i get is what i need to do to do most damage or get a buff or let the enemie get an debuff. Beside that i dont get it :D
a. Should you do the kick / push / sweep at all? If yes - when?
b. If i dont have debuffs and the enemie dont have buff is it irrelevant wether i do block / evade or Autoattack?
c. Is there a way to foresee what kind on an attack the enemie will do?
d. Why do i or the enemie sometimes 1 damage attacks? (why just 1 dmg)
e. What is the meaning of the purple / green / red shorted words behind your attack style? e.g. Crush >> (PN/Adr)

Thanks for your support
 
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tanukk1

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Hello everyone

I played Jack o nine years ago... but with my reastart i only getting problems...

I have multiple questions.

Thanks for your support
I didn't play the older versions very much, so not sure what exact things have changed. But can try to answer anyway.

1. Why does my slave or assistent not start the day with 5 but only 2 or 3 energie? At the end of the previouse day energie was at +/- 0 so not below 0 Energie (so i did not overdue training / work) They also didnt have automated work like bath me, cook at the end of the day etc. i do that all manually with the energie they have.

Most likely this is because of the slaves' low endurance stat. S class endurance will regenerate 5 stars of energy per day. I'm guessing your slaves have B or C.

2. It there a overview what actions increases / decreases the attributes of a slave? (very important!)

Yes,
Is a good reference

3. Why does my asistant / Slave gets spoiled (according to the aura) when they are naked... sleep on a bedroll, get normal food and are not praised more then the daylie success is (when a slave get an excelent (2) i only do level 1 or 2 praise)

Again guessing, but... On normal difficulty, you need to assign at least 2 rules to a slave, or they gain spoiling. They also gain some if they end the day with guilt (in which case you should punish them before going to bed)

4. The part of the combat System i get is what i need to do to do most damage or get a buff or let the enemie get an debuff. Beside that i dont get it :D

Yeah, I didn't get it either for a long time.
The easy way is getting a slashing weapon (Flamberge is the strongest one), then learning special abilities from the colosseum NPC (Swift Strike, Battle Cry, Roundhouse Kick). When you use them in that order, you debuff the enemy against red attacks, buff your red attack, then kick them for a shitload of damage. Then just hit them with your sword over and over again, if they aren't dead yet.
Unlike weapon attacks, special abilities always give the same buffs/debuffs, regardless of the target's stance.

a. Should you do the kick / push / sweep at all? If yes - when?

Only when you can't get a good result with your main weapon attacks or special abilities. Those do the most damage, so ideally you should just be using them. But sometimes these weak attacks can be used to get a buff/debuff going

b. If i dont have debuffs and the enemie dont have buff is it irrelevant wether i do block / evade or Autoattack?

At an advanced level, it can make a difference. For example, if I go Evade stance, then the enemy's Precise Attacks will give me a debuff. If I know that the debuff that enemy gives me is really bad, and would ruin my combo, then I can avoid it by not going into Evade stance.

c. Is there a way to foresee what kind on an attack the enemie will do?

Sometimes it seems like certain enemies have a pattern, but it's probably totally random...

d. Why do i or the enemie sometimes 1 damage attacks? (why just 1 dmg)

Good armor, weak weapon, not matching attack type with the target's stance, target having a buff against that attack type, your attack type being debuffed...
If many of these conditions are true at the same time, damage can be reduced to 1.

e. What is the meaning of the purple / green / red shorted words behind your attack style? e.g. Crush >> (PN/Adr)

They're abbreviations for the buffs you receive, or the debuffs you will land, when using that attack. In this case, if the target is in green stance, using Crush will buff you with Adrenaline (reduces red damage taken). If they are in purple stance, Crush will debuff them with Severe Pain (reduces the purple damage they deal).
Yeah, have fun memorizing all that crap...this is why we just smash everything with the OP special ability combo. The only time you really must learn this system is if you want a slave to become Grand Champion. But hey, we can save right before the fights and just keep trying.
 
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lhucio

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Is the wiki wrong about the Evasion 3 with the Elven chainmail? I’ve tested all the other armors and they work perfectly, but with the Elven one I’m not getting the 3 evasion at the start of combat.

I've checked the change logs for the last version and I didn't see any change
 

Tykopulus

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Thank you very much Tanukk1!
I didn't think anyone would give me such a detailed answer.

Now some thing are much clearer to me e.g. the thing with the spoiling... because i dont use the rules :D
Mybe the humiliating (call me master) or silence rule in the beginning... but later i disabled all of that again.
OK then i stay with some rules.

Thanks for the link to the attribues and the informations about the battles.
I will test it later on today!
 
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Is the wiki wrong about the Evasion 3 with the Elven chainmail? I’ve tested all the other armors and they work perfectly, but with the Elven one I’m not getting the 3 evasion at the start of combat.
There seems to be a bug in the code. The second line cancels the first.
Code:
$броня_эффект['эльчуга'] = {
    верткость += 3
}
$броня_эффект['эльчуга'] = {}
 
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justdude1

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I returned to the game after about 3 yrs and damn , the game used to be much easier. Even starting with aristrocrat, i can't stop the slaves falling into tentacles of despair and disgusting spoiling. Slaves in depression who keep spiraling into despair. They won't put effort into training let alone devote to the slaver. Their final destination always going to be 5 sparks pig shit in butcher shop. Please help.
 
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lhucio

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AI quality is shit. Always was, is now, and always will be. How do I know it? There are still problems with the hands, after all these years, and I mean YEARS.
Oh, so because AI still messes up hands sometimes, it’s 'always been and always will be trash'?

That’s like saying airplanes are useless because early models couldn’t fly across the ocean. The difference is obvious to anyone paying attention—AI jumped from crude nonsense to stunningly realistic output in a handful of years. If you can’t see that, the problem isn’t the AI that’s your failure as a hater


Watch this video, for example, and say it’s "shit" just because it’s AI—when it clearly conveys emotion, intention, and originality. Honestly, people like you are hilarious.




It’s been 3 years since the explosion of LLMs with ChatGPT-3, and we’ve gone from images that were just a curiosity to "art" sometimes indistinguishable from those made by people.

Give it another 5 years instead of wasting time hating online and calling it " cancer of modern culture "
 

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Oh, so because AI still messes up hands sometimes, it’s 'always been and always will be trash'?

That’s like saying airplanes are useless because early models couldn’t fly across the ocean. The difference is obvious to anyone paying attention—AI jumped from crude nonsense to stunningly realistic output in a handful of years. If you can’t see that, the problem isn’t the AI that’s your failure as a hater


Watch this video, for example, and say it’s "shit" just because it’s AI—when it clearly conveys emotion, intention, and originality. Honestly, people like you are hilarious.




It’s been 3 years since the explosion of LLMs with ChatGPT-3, and we’ve gone from images that were just a curiosity to "art" sometimes indistinguishable from those made by people.

Give it another 5 years instead of wasting time hating online and calling it " cancer of modern culture "
As an antithesis, and it'll sound blunt but it's not meant to humiliate you, I can see from 1000km away that ChatGPT wrote 70% of your message. I find it bad, and I'm not a particularly good writer.

My point being that the flaws of AI-made pictures must immediately jump to the face of someone who knows composition, anatomy, perspective, lighting, shadows.

However, I do disagree with the statement that AI will always suck, we cannot know the future. Statistically there's bond to be a perfect generated image, some of mine sometimes have 5 fingers per hands :HideThePain:. Just typing "1997 Kodak photo of Tifa" in Chroma gave me that: 1756795572601.png , imagine with a bit of refinement, besides I can change the makeup, the ethnicity, the pose, the camera model, the background... Also, actual artists don't always do perfectly coherent shadowing or perspective either. ^^

What I suggest is judging the end result rather than the method, based on the past and current state of the game; finding art in the same retro hentai style that doesn't look like slop is a win in my opinion.

With that in mind, I'm going to step out from my role as a dev'. For now, maybe forever. I've been mostly only a coordinator for a year or so, and right now there is nothing to coordinate. All of you please take care of JONT :coffee: Cheers
 

Ai Shoujo Fan

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Am I doing this right (for the CE)?

Step #1 - For the latest Dev version 'Code', go to:

and use the 'Code' link for the Complete Edition.

Step #2 - For the latest Dev version 'Media Base', do NOT go to:

because the 'Media Base' archive there is corrupted. (It was corrupted for me. And apparently it has been corrupted since March 2025 for many users, not just me.)
Instead, go to:

and download the -ai version of the Media Base. To be safe, download it as a 'tar' instead of a 'zip' because the zip version might be corrupted (not sure, as I haven't tested and confirmed it, but it was reported to have also been corrupted in addition to the corrupted zip file that is on the Wiki page. my downloads are slow, so I didn't want to waste another half hour).

Step #3 - For the latest Dev version 'Media Patch', go to:

and use the 'Media Patch' link for the Complete Edition.

I normally don't play management games, but after being disappointed with Lab Rats 2 and Free Cities (both had a lot of promise), which my friend recommended to me, I decided to check out some other management games. I just didn't expect it to be this damn difficult to figure out how to download the latest Dev version. Not sure why the corrupted zip hasn't ever been fixed yet. PS - I am not even sure if I want the loli version. I just want to see what it is like. I might end up uninstalling it. But I think that the non-loli version is also corrupted according to the reports.

UPDATE: I don't like the CE version. The girls are too young. I am going to try downloading the normal version now.
UPDATE: The normal version 'Media Base' zip is also corrupted. So yeah, will use the gitgud version since that one works.
 
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Ai Shoujo Fan

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WTF? When i started the game, it told me that it wanted me to enable WIFI etc. because it wanted to know my precise location? I should have screenshotted it, but I didn't. WTF? Like, seriously. WTF?
 

RedGreen3

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WTF? When i started the game, it told me that it wanted me to enable WIFI etc. because it wanted to know my precise location? I should have screenshotted it, but I didn't. WTF? Like, seriously. WTF?
I'm not getting the wifi prompt. The location thing is an engine quirk. It doesn't send any data, just makes a ton of location calls. At least, I couldn't find anything it could be sending when I examined the .exe.
 

tanukk1

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WTF? When i started the game, it told me that it wanted me to enable WIFI etc. because it wanted to know my precise location? I should have screenshotted it, but I didn't. WTF? Like, seriously. WTF?
current theory is it's some default behavior of the QSP game engine, that we don't know how to turn off. Well, Unity does the same thing.
 

lhucio

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As an antithesis, and it'll sound blunt but it's not meant to humiliate you, I can see from 1000km away that ChatGPT wrote 70% of your message. I find it bad, and I'm not a particularly good writer.
English is not my native language, I use always chatgpt to translate it and fix it but i wrote all the content in my language. If i didn't, my redaction would be like a 13yo native speaker, like right now. As a traductor chatgpt has no rival.

Why that would humilliate me?
 

lhucio

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However, I do disagree with the statement that AI will always suck, we cannot know the future. Statistically there's bond to be a perfect generated image, some of mine sometimes have 5 fingers per hands :HideThePain:. Just typing "1997 Kodak photo of Tifa" in Chroma gave me that: View attachment 5210385 , imagine with a bit of refinement, besides I can change the makeup, the ethnicity, the pose, the camera model, the background... Also, actual artists don't always do perfectly coherent shadowing or perspective either. ^^
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AI is an amazing tool for people who wants to do things and don't have big resources, democratize resources they call it. And find no-rich people against it, makes me mad.
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