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I thought this would've been fixed by now, but Xenophily can't be S rank since it says my slave mastered it even though she hasn't. I can't get garsid's reward.
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Okay, so renting a barn allows you to do pig mating training, but it should say I need a barn rather than saying she already mastered pig mating.
 

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How were you able to find their main site?
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Can you share how you refine your Google search? I used it as well but I could never find these things. We can now refine our search to find Mars & Jinn's mod as well as Fugitive Red's. But that's because we can specifically look for them thanks to you. How did you find these before you knew they were there in the first place?
About Fugitive Red's - easy one - it was published on the
I wrote about this situation in my inital post about 1.8.
I do not know why, but in the first place the patch 1.8 by Fugitive Red was listed and downloadble from the page, but at some point all information about it was deleted. So there is a link just in case:
(73.7 MB )
Well then about mod by Mars & jinn:

Google: " jack o nine tails mod"
7-8-9th strings are about 1.7.7.2
ok Google" Jack-o-nine-tails 1.7.7.2"
2nd string =


Alternative route 1:
even better: "jack o nine tails mod 2019"
1st page 4th string = 1.7.7.4 Mod by Mars & Jinn

Alternative route 2:
you know, actually Jack-o-nine tails is a russian game made by Old Huntsman.
So it`s original name is "валет плетей"
ok Google : " валет плетей mod "
1st page , 1st, 2nd string,(and 3rd, 5th., 6th strings too), mention about mod by mars & Jinn.

SIDE NOTE: That Russian qsp you gave us a while back is fascinating. Have you given an overview of the additions they made? They appeared to have added something to the combat system. That's no mean feat considering that the last time someone attempted to merely turn the combat variables into English the system broke. In fairness to us it's also possible that it's hard for English speakers to fix the combat system because it's in Russian.
I haven`t played this game more than 1.5 yrs.
But I am eager to play it again, when 2.0 F95 edition will be done!!!
 
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Powerairmax : 1) There's a picture: "dog_red_short". You can delete it, it's ugly, her hair are pink, and "dog_red" already suits perfectly.

2) In the process of mass converting from gif to png, you might be tempted put back the source material of the work you've done (from pig to urine pictures). However, I advise against it, since there were many corrections on my part (watermarks removal, hair removal in "general" pictures, pictures for "sex" that showed "analsex", colors/contrast/saturation, replacement with other pictures found on the web, etc.).
No offense, of course, this was a real help.

3) 147 new images so far! :) I'm at the letter "f", for all three age categories.
 

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RustDust I've been testing some fog battles and they seem to work well enough. I had to get the bull ring before I stood much of a chance. I have never noticed my slaver missing with S++ level warrior skills (max and wearing aketon). I found some minion type enemies with a "mad doc" and they all were incapacitated with a single hit. The only time I noticed missing was when I had an untrained slave fight in the arena, but that seems expected. Combat to me seems unchanged from 1.7.5 and from looking over the release notes with 1.8 I suspect this is the case.

tracygotrocks I have two bugs to report, they are pretty small like the others that I've found.
1. There is an option to reward|make a gift|jewelry|headband - and this shows a picture of slippers.
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When clicked, it shows a reward picture of slippers and text describing the slave receiving slippers, then the slaver is charged 5 sparks and the slave is wearing slippers on her feet.
2. My slaver recently acquired a tentacle beast by purchasing it from the smuggler's camp at the border of the fogs zone. I have not seen any end of day messages regarding fog fiend milking. I don't have quiet mode selected for the assistant and I remember getting end of day messages when it was milked before. If I order to milk the fiend (assistant assignment|milk the fiend) everything works as expected. It seems like she must be milking it before it ever goes to a "crave" status, I was watching it carefully.
If you have time to look for these it would be great.

ordos Thanks for updating the thread with information about Jack mods and development in the Russian community. I'm working on getting this thread updated to point newcomers to 1.8 and perhaps remove the [abandoned] tag. The whole first post could use an update and unfortunately the poster has retired. I'm going to ask other staff members how to proceed.
 
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I'm working on getting this thread updated to point newcomers to 1.8 and perhaps remove the [abandoned] tag. The whole first post could use an update and unfortunately the poster has retired. I'm going to ask other staff members how to proceed.
Oh yeah! This first post is really too long and should point to the essential. To be fair, you might even want to hide all the older versions prior to 2.0 under a big spoiler saying "old versions".

And put all the changelogs, into one spoiler like on every other posts.

Remove the "Cheat Original" thingy...

Powerairmax:

1) For the lesbo folder, you should count one image as double. If a girl with green hair and brown hair are on the same picture, it should count for lesbian scenes of both. Maybe it's the case already? In any case, it'll avoid me to burnout inefficiently).

2) I noticed "white long lesbian" for young category counts 0. In the folder for the sex scenes tho, there are two pictures: lesbo_white_brown_gg + lesbo_whiteredeye_lm

Could you check if there aren't anymore mistakes?

(I'm still at the letter F, I just went a bit ahead)
 

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Oh yeah! This first post is really too long and should point to the essential. To be fair, you might even want to hide all the older versions prior to 2.0 under a big spoiler saying "old versions".

And put all the changelogs, into one spoiler like on every other posts.

Remove the "Cheat Original" thingy...

Powerairmax:

1) For the lesbo folder, you should count one image as double. If a girl with green hair and brown hair are on the same picture, it should count for lesbian scenes of both. Maybe it's the case already? In any case, it'll avoid me to burnout inefficiently).

2) I noticed "white long lesbian" for young category counts 0. In the folder for the sex scenes tho, there are two pictures: lesbo_white_brown_gg + lesbo_whiteredeye_lm

Could you check if there aren't anymore mistakes?

(I'm still at the letter F, I just went a bit ahead)
reason the second point is a thing is because I didn't use the same images as doubles I only picked one of the girls while the other was counted as 0 to get a new image for her
that being said its fine by me to use the same image twice if you don't wanna do them, it won't make much difference since its randomized so you might get a loli/milf while you either have no loli or no milf slave/assistant
 

qwertyu12359

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reason the second point is a thing is because I didn't use the same images as doubles I only picked one of the girls while the other was counted as 0 to get a new image for her
that being said its fine by me to use the same image twice if you don't wanna do them, it won't make much difference since its randomized so you might get a loli/milf while you either have no loli or no milf slave/assistant
Hm... How about we still stay careful about the age category? For the lesbian pictures, I can copy paste the existing ones with two different names, based on the category. To fill in the 0.
 

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Hm... How about we still stay careful about the age category? For the lesbian pictures, I can copy paste the existing ones with two different names, based on the category. To fill in the 0.
yea that will fill it but it wont help with the category, it just can't. the json line that handles the lesbian images is just a single line that looks for a specific image/s, it doesn't matter what the age of the assistant or the slave, you will still get randomized pictures

here's an example:
"lesbian": ["girls/sex/lesbo_general_loli", "girls/sex/lesbo_white_brown_gg", "girls/sex/lesbo_whiteredeye_gl"],
now this line will look for the images with that specific name that you prepared for the code to look for that had the g in it (g as in young and l as in loli) and lets say your slave age is young and your assistant age is loli,
what will happen is sometimes you will get the image that has a young and a loli and sometimes you will get the image that has 2 youngs even though your assistant is a loli

the json file can't tell the age difference ingame, all it sees is that you requested a lesbian tagged image
 

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I applied for uploader status to gain the ability to look after the thread, but no word yet. I will re-write the first post and see if someone else can update it.

tracygotrocks I think I found the cause of the missing fiend milking messages. It looks like a temporary variable was left in the code for both slave and assistant automatic milking. I'm testing a fix. I haven't looked for the other one yet.
 
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About Fugitive Red's - easy one - it was published on the
I wrote about this situation in my inital post about 1.8.


Well then about mod by Mars & jinn:

Google: " jack o nine tails mod"
7-8-9th strings are about 1.7.7.2
ok Google" Jack-o-nine-tails 1.7.7.2"
2nd string =
main page of the authors of mod by Mars & Jinn

Alternative route 1:
even better: "jack o nine tails mod 2019"
1st page 4th string = 1.7.7.4 Mod by Mars & Jinn

Alternative route 2:
you know, actually Jack-o-nine tails is a russian game made by Old Huntsman.
So it`s original name is "валет плетей"
ok Google : " валет плетей mod "
1st page , 1st, 2nd string,(and 3rd, 5th., 6th strings too), mention about mod by mars & Jinn.
Thank you very much for this info my friend.

I haven`t played this game more than 1.5 yrs.
But I am eager to play it again, when 2.0 F95 edition will be done!!!
Fun fact for you. Did you know that just a few months ago if you google search jack o nine this thread wouldn't have appeared on the first page? Now it's on the first page, hovering between ranks 3 and 6. Why isn't it #1? Well, my guess is as follows:
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I suppose qwerty and PAM had singlehandedly revived interest in Jack (English edition). :eek:
 
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Looks like you've been approved man! (y) You now officially own post#1 of this thread.
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Yeah, I'm kind of surprised they went for it to be honest. I'm almost out of time today but I'll start working on the re-write tomorrow. I will certainly link to Ordos' posts for more information in the main thread he's searching on a whole 'nother level from me.

About the fiend milking bug. Here is the code from 1.8 starting on line 82 in end_day_screen
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Here's my proposed change, I renamed quiet_rule_tmp with assistant_quiet_rule (which every other action was using). The only funky thing here is that when the slave or assistant fails to milk the fiend, it just turns off the quiet rule. This change has resolved the problem I tested several scenarios and tested with the quiet rule enabled and disabled.
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I didn't find the quiet_rule_temp anywhere else in the code so I think it just got missed when Fugitive Red was adding the quiet rule to the other day end actions. My fix isn't probably the most elegant, as I haven't looked for other conditions that turn off the quiet rule to see how the milking one should be handled. I won't be at all offended if you or anyone else wants to make a different change.

I don't really understand the jump 'loop' part, but it seems to suppress the display of the things inside the IF statement, even though they are still performed.
 
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1. Is the fiend's current state "Crave?" If it's "Satisfied" by the end of the day then it won't be automatically milked; hence the message won't appear.
2. What are your assistant's daily jobs? If "Milkmaid" isn't ticked then the message won't appear.
3. What's your assistant's energy level before you ended the day? If she has more jobs than she has green energy levels by the end of the day then the message probably won't appear.
4. What is your assistant's skill level in fiend milking? If you manually make her do fiend milking as one of her assignments for the day AND her skill in fiend milking is higher than the level of the fiend then the message won't appear.
1. If milkmaid is selected for assistant, the fiend never goes to crave. She will milk it silently even though it says satisfied at end of day. I think this may be because it goes to crave before the automatic actions of end_day_screen happen, thus the play will never see the status change to crave if the milking is successful.
2. If milkmaid is not selected it will go to crave and then starving as expected.
3. With my playstyle the assistant generally has a very light workload, just cooking, cleaning and bath_master.
4. I trained her to maximum when I first received the fiend. I think doing a successful training will also keep the fiend from going to crave status.

One other thing I was wondering and was unable to determine due to my low understanding of the code/game: Iis it possible for a fiend to impregnate your assistant or slave when they fail the milking job? Is it possible if they succeed in milking it? The flavor text of the fiend tattoo seems to indicate that it prevents fiend related pregnancies, is this true? Does sterilization from the medical center prevent fiend pregnancies? (in retrospect I guess that's more than one thing)

edit: No worries about not being around. I'm so grateful for your time and effort into finding and fixing these bugs. I will test out the jewelry reward proposed fix tomorrow, I need to turn in for the day. Excited that things are coming together.
 
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Yeah, I'm kind of surprised they went for it to be honest. I'm almost out of time today but I'll start working on the re-write tomorrow. I will certainly link to Ordos' posts for more information in the main thread he's searching on a whole 'nother level from me.
Jesus, get some sleep first then worry about the re-write later since I'll be doing that as well. :p You deserve it. It's an accomplishment to possess a dead poster.

You're right man. There's something weird about the codes in the location end_day_screen in v1.8. I'd like to compare that to v1.7.5.

Btw, if you're going to ask ordos for help with the re-write, can you ask him to provide you with JUST the qsps of the various early mods? It should be helpful to modders when debugging.

EDIT: Can you ask him to provide you with qsps in addition to the entire mod packages similar to how some mods are linked in the wiki?
 

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1. If milkmaid is selected for assistant, the fiend never goes to crave. She will milk it silently even though it says satisfied at end of day. I think this may be because it goes to crave before the automatic actions of end_day_screen happen, thus the play will never see the status change to crave if the milking is successful.
2. If milkmaid is not selected it will go to crave and then starving as expected.
3. With my playstyle the assistant generally has a very light workload, just cooking, cleaning and bath_master.
4. I trained her to maximum when I first received the fiend. I think doing a successful training will also keep the fiend from going to crave status.

One other thing I was wondering and was unable to determine due to my low understanding of the code/game: Iis it possible for a fiend to impregnate your assistant or slave when they fail the milking job? Is it possible if they succeed in milking it? The flavor text of the fiend tattoo seems to indicate that it prevents fiend related pregnancies, is this true? Does sterilization from the medical center prevent fiend pregnancies? (in retrospect I guess that's more than one thing)

edit: No worries about not being around. I'm so grateful for your time and effort into finding and fixing these bugs. I will test out the jewelry reward proposed fix tomorrow, I need to turn in for the day. Excited that things are coming together.
first and foremost I would like to thank everyone for there contribution

now about the pregnancy question
yes the slave/assistant can get impregnated when the milking fails or succeed because it's not that she couldn't get the fiend to "cooperate" but rather she gets overwhelmed and can't do her order due to her being too busy getting "drilled"
and yes fiend tattoo makes the slave unimpregneable and makes the fiend cut taste good for them
and yes sterilization will prevent all types of pregnancies

and updates about my progress, I believe I have about till next Friday if not less to have everything ready for a final checkup on qwertyu's side due to me changing new and adding new pics in torture folders then I may bother @tractgotrocks to gather up the bugs that been reported with what they fixed and hopefully a release date by the week after
 

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I believe I have about till next Friday if not less to have everything ready for a final checkup on qwertyu's side due to me changing new and adding new pics in torture folders then I may bother @tractgotrocks to gather up the bugs that been reported with what they fixed and hopefully a release date by the week after
You might want to postpone that release date announcement. I have hundreds of pictures left to do, then I'll send them to you so you can add them to the release folder, as well as remove the entries in the game code for pictures I didn't find.

On your end, if you like to have a deadline for the torture folders, keep it. Otherwise, take the time you need then contact me when you're over.

Now I know people are hyped, and we did hyped them on purpose for "in a few days". However, we are very transparent; our plans was based on an certain amount of work, something new came up (bugs that weren't announced, the fact that a lot of hair colors are missing from the sex pictures etc.). So it's only for the better that we polish this new version out :) We're getting there, and the community knows how often we work on it (= everyday).
 
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