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StJesuz

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Hey, I'm new to the game, so I got to the central forum and selected "Find Potential Customers" It told me to get back to home and analyze the collected information but I can not find the option to do that. I looked at "Domestic Issues" -> "Business". Can anyone help?
Look in the master's objectives, there should be an entry about selling a slave more profitably. This will always contain some general advice about selling slaves. If you visited the forum that day it will also tell you which minor residences would be willing to buy your slave, she must be at least D+ and one specialization.
 

dmmt

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May 8, 2020
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this game intrigues, and infuriates me.

Your slave is broken. She is now like a robot, obeying without emotion...

or

You awaken alert to danger. Your slave is trying to kill you...

or

You awaken and find your slave in a pool of blood...

and these are my results on EASY mode :/

for the love of gawd..someone who knows how to play this thing, PLEASE write a starter guide. Not a step by step how to, but something that ties the various mental/emotional states of your slave to the variosu reward/punishment actions and ow they interact. Trial and error is gonna take months, and to think someone new to a gam will devote weeks let alone months to the learning curve, is naive to say the least
 

qwertyu12359

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this game intrigues, and infuriates me.

Your slave is broken. She is now like a robot, obeying without emotion...

or

You awaken alert to danger. Your slave is trying to kill you...

or

You awaken and find your slave in a pool of blood...

and these are my results on EASY mode :/

for the love of gawd..someone who knows how to play this thing, PLEASE write a starter guide. Not a step by step how to, but something that ties the various mental/emotional states of your slave to the variosu reward/punishment actions and ow they interact. Trial and error is gonna take months, and to think someone new to a gam will devote weeks let alone months to the learning curve, is naive to say the least
Have you succeeded in the tutorial mode first?

Anyway, this is the less outdated guide I have in mind, you might try to inspire yourself from that: https://f95zone.to/threads/jack-o-n...ntsman-community-development.390/post-4604613
 

GoldenArm

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Oct 7, 2021
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OMG, what's a servant? Is there an updated manual for this version? Looks like servant D- is not just a D- slave with D- Maid. WTF?
 

StJesuz

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OMG, what's a servant? Is there an updated manual for this version? Looks like servant D- is not just a D- slave with D- Maid. WTF?
Look in the master's objectives. It lists the requirements for meeting each specialization. Servant requires maid and cook skills at a B+ level.

Nobody wants a maid that can't cook and clean.
 

downloaderbo

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Aug 18, 2017
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Hello again. Have trained and sold 3 or 4 more slaves of mine, but the Empathy stat for all of them and for my Assistant just drops down. This was not happening before, but now it just drops down no matter if the slave is completely obedient and devoted to the slaver. The Fucking stat just DROPS to -10. Don't have a fiend, so, that's not the problem.
Seems to be a bug.
Can i switch my saved game to a previous version??? I'm at 2.2.3 dev version (no loli edition).
 

dmmt

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Have you succeeded in the tutorial mode first?

Anyway, this is the less outdated guide I have in mind, you might try to inspire yourself from that: https://f95zone.to/threads/jack-o-n...ntsman-community-development.390/post-4604613
I succeeded the tutorial...once, in probably 20 tries. And no, I am not at all sure what I did that passed, vs what I did that failed repeatedly. That on the Minimal Difficulty. On the Normal Difficulty, I have yet to get the trainee to do ANYTHING.
 
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yomamasass

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Look in the master's objectives, there should be an entry about selling a slave more profitably. This will always contain some general advice about selling slaves. If you visited the forum that day it will also tell you which minor residences would be willing to buy your slave, she must be at least D+ and one specialization.
Thank you Jesus, I don't know what I'd do if it wasn't for you.
 

GoldenArm

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Oct 7, 2021
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Ok, the rent is now a lot higher than it used to be. like, twice as high?

I'm starting as Johny. It's pretty hard. But the only rental option I have is Serpentine, and it's 150 sparks/decade. I can't afford it, so I keep training girls in slums. All I do is punish or reward them for cleaning my shack and doing gymnastics untill they're D-, and then I sell them to the subpurchaser.

Is there a better way? I guess I'll have to do that and also occasionally train them other skills until I get better skills to be able to train C- slaves and only then rent my new quarters?
 

dmmt

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deleted...maybe if a functional wiki gets put together, explaining where to get a bath if you reside in the slums...because traveling to every location, no bathing option is presented, ever.

maybe if some sort of explanation for "how" to play the game gets put together...I REALLY want to like this title, the idea, is grand. The application, leaves a LOT to be desired.
 

pisnet123

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Mar 29, 2020
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this game intrigues, and infuriates me.

Your slave is broken. She is now like a robot, obeying without emotion...

or

You awaken alert to danger. Your slave is trying to kill you...

or

You awaken and find your slave in a pool of blood...

and these are my results on EASY mode :/

for the love of gawd..someone who knows how to play this thing, PLEASE write a starter guide. Not a step by step how to, but something that ties the various mental/emotional states of your slave to the variosu reward/punishment actions and ow they interact. Trial and error is gonna take months, and to think someone new to a gam will devote weeks let alone months to the learning curve, is naive to say the least
You need to keep your slaves in a positive mood if you want to prevent them from falling into despair. There are many different ways to do it.

Use encourage by talking to them, give them a massage at the salon, make them wear a sundress, make them drink alcohol, give them an hour of rest or fun as reward and so on.

Use these various methods to make sure their mood is positive before the day ends so their despair won't increase. I typically raise their mood first before training them on anything because they are more obedient when happy.

It's also easier if you get an obedient slave to begin with. One that has low pride, nature, temperament and intellect. Then you don't have to punish them as much to get them to obey



If there's something you're not sure of, you can always look up the wiki.


I think some of the info is outdated but most of it is correct. I've played this game for a while and I still sometimes look up the wiki when I'm not sure what effect a particular rule or interaction or item has on the slave's stats.

deleted...maybe if a functional wiki gets put together, explaining where to get a bath if you reside in the slums...because traveling to every location, no bathing option is presented, ever.

maybe if some sort of explanation for "how" to play the game gets put together...I REALLY want to like this title, the idea, is grand. The application, leaves a LOT to be desired.
Don't reside in the slums. Get a house right away, then go to the gates and get Isabella as an assistant.

It will make your life easier.
 
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GoldenArm

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Slums make sense financially. Moreover, they're feasible for training, but yes, it's tricky. You can bathe your slave and yourself in the white town > trade square > Salon Elven Leid > Spa and Massage (for the slave) and Services for men > Aroma Spa for yourself. It costs a bit of sparks though.

Slums become much easier once you have an Assistant... Well, everything becomes easier with an assistant, really :) But yes, unless you start as Johny, you should move out of slums right away. Slums only make sense for initial training of your Johny to be able to complete easiest contracts So, like, Houseboy to B+ and some skill in Teaching to do it faster.
 

murfdogg

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Jun 20, 2020
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Is there a mod or program that can auto update the picture format from JONT (HF 1.7.5) to this new picture layout?
I am unable to download anything much at dev wiki over 40mb as it fails. My internet sucks donkey balls. I have
the pictures that I've cherry picked from all the packs available way back then and I would like to use them with
this updated version.

Failing that, some "How to update them For Dummies" would be helpful.
 

qwertyu12359

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Is there a mod or program that can auto update the picture format from JONT (HF 1.7.5) to this new picture layout?
I am unable to download anything much at dev wiki over 40mb as it fails. My internet sucks donkey balls. I have
the pictures that I've cherry picked from all the packs available way back then and I would like to use them with
this updated version.

Failing that, some "How to update them For Dummies" would be helpful.
Step 0 would be to check if there are no duplicates; it's probable that some if not most of your pictures are already in the game (except the censored ones). So, go grab a portable software that check for duplicate pictures, or try to look manually.

About auto updating the picture format, yes, there's that I used on many occasions. You just have to mass rename your files extension from .gif to .png.

There's also the home-made tool localized in Jack-o-nine-tails\game\picture_modding made by Lokplart (y)
 
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murfdogg

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Step 0 would be to check if there are no duplicates; it's probable that some if not most of your pictures are already in the game (except the censored ones). So, go grab a portable software that check for duplicate pictures, or try to look manually.

About auto updating the picture format, yes, there's that I used on many occasions. You just have to mass rename your files extension from .gif to .png.

There's also the home-made tool localized in Jack-o-nine-tails\game\picture_modding made by Lokplart (y)
Thanks much. I give it a shot.
 
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subli

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One huge problem with the tutorial is that it uses completely different terminonlogy than what is used ingame. If the tutorial was rewritten to use the same terms that are used ingame then I think the number of questions and complaints would drop massively.

Another problem is that the tutorial basically only talks about the slave and very little about you and your possible actions.
 

GoldenArm

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Oct 7, 2021
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ok, folks, a question. What would be a good way to develop Johny's primary attributes like Strength, Allure or Personality? So from the very bottom state. And for cheap.
 

subli

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Awareness is called "rational obedience" in the tutorial (the word awareness is actually present, but it's not very prominent). Taming is called "instinctive obedience", as far as I can tell the word "taming" doesn't appear in the tutorial at all.

It's really only those two, but it felt far more confusing when I actually used the tutorial to learn the game. I actually had to quit the tutorial and start a normal game and then read the mini-tutorial when you buy your first slave in order to actually understand the real tutorial.

Edit: To make the tutorial easier to use I think it would be great to color code the words in the same color as they appear when you view a girls aura.
 
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GoldenArm

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Ok, so I'll start writing Johny's walkthrough here. For the 2.2.3 version. I would appreciate suggestions to optimize it since I'm finding out things as I go.

Getting started

0. Go to game config from your living room, enable saving the game every decade and every day. I think it's off by default just cuz the original author messed up with the saving mechanics. And change the complexity of the game to Easy. Honestly, doing Johny on harder than easy requires game knowledge far beyound what I know about it, lol. And I finished it three times in the past five years. It's a cool game even if you remove all the grim, slave-related or sexual content with something else, keeping the mechanics. You probably also wanna disable the broken mind. It's just that the mechanism of it is overcomplicated really. Hard to keep track of it and really hard/expensive/long to influence the stats to avoid it.
1. Johny is complete shit at the beginning, able to only do the simplest things. Therefore, you want to keep to your shack in slums. Don't start from renting a better place. It's too expensive for now.
2. I suggest going and getting a 1-spark-shawarma every day in Serpentine -> Virgin's hip. Until you move out of slums.
3. You can wash at `White Town -> Trade Square -> Salon Elven Leid -> Services for Men -> Aroma Spa ($5)` But it's expensive, so I suggest doing it only when you get filthy, so about once per decade or so.
4. On day first, go get yourself Livery clothing. It's in `W -> Trade Square -> Boutique -> Menswear`. It should cost about $40. It makes it easier to interact with girls. Don't forget to equip it!
5. Now you want to make some money. At least, to get an idea. Go to the slaves market at W -> Trade Square, save using F5. Now you want to find a slave who is:
a) Beauty above Ugly
b) Cheap as dirt. So about 20-30 sparks
c) Not too arogant. In fact, the lower the Pride is, the better. You're looking for Aloof, Open or Unashamed.
d) Nature above Spineless.
e) Make sure the slave doesn't have the broken mind trait.
f) Intellect more than stupid is good to have, but not necessary really for a D-.
That's it for now. Your aim here is to get the slave to D- as fast as possible and then sell it.
6. Note that in the slaves market, there's a button in the top right that allows you to skip to the next girl. (>|) If none of the girls met our standards, don't worry, just F2 to load, skip the first girl since it's not gonna be randomized and assess the rest of them, they're all randomized now. Well, or you can go to your shack and try training your cleaning skills by, well, cleaning it.
7. Good. You have your slave. Perfect. Now, don't save. Go to your shack, use auspex and Magna Magnifica. Assess the slave's aura. Watch for the signs of spoiling. If you notice any points in spoiling, load. You just don't wanna waste your time on spoiled brats.
8. Your slave is not spoiled? Perfect! DON'T use F5 to save. Just save in a different slot. Say, 1. Now go to Serpentile -> Technosphere -> Medical Centre -> Examine Slave. Make sure the slave is not sick. If it's not sick, load from 1 (we're save scamming here to save 5 sparks, but it's not necessary really). If it has a parasite or something like that, just F2 to load and start over from point 5. You don't have to save scam here. I don't bother, but you can.

D-

9. Good. Now you have a good candidate. Remember you've casted Magna Magnifica? This is to talk to the slave. Click "Influence Slave" near the slave's portrait when you're home, then "Explain her position". After it, do Encourage. Encourage won't do much, but it will help you developing your skills. Now, by default, your slave is fed dehydrated food. Change it to Fresh food. It's in the rules. A new slave, if it's not spoiled, should be fed fresh food and sleep on a bedroll. now go to `O -> Patterns of Uncle Bo` and make a Brand Tattoo (10$) Good. Now you're ready to start working with the slave. Save in a New Slave slot and start working.
10. You could also buy a leather collar and leather shackles in `N -> Steel Rose -> BDSM Paraphernalia` if you find that the girls keep dominating you, lol. But it's not that important. Some would also suggest buying a Sundress since it adds to the slave's mood, but I suggest against it since it spoils your slaves in a turn or two if they're not obedient enough and you want none of that. Once they're obedient enough to wear the dress with no penalties, you barely care anymore. I guess if you want to get to a C- or above, you could.
11. Every day, you should `Influence Slave -> Explain her position` at the beginning of the day until you get a message that the slave got her position.
12. After the influencing part, you go "Slave Assignments" in the main menu then either ask her to do gymnastics or tidy up the house. This is all you can do here really, as johny. The slave will refuse. It will earn punishment. You have to punish her every single time the punishment is earned. If you don't do that, she gets spoiled. An easy way to know if a slave is spoiled is by checking if `Influence Slave -> Put in Place` is available. If it's not - the slave is not spoiled. Here are some super common reasons for a slave to get spoiled:
0) a slave can be spoiled from the start.
a) you give her your leftovers.
b) you let her sleep in a better place than on a bedroll
c) you give her pleasant stuff to wear. Like a sundress. Or slippers.
d) you arrange a spa and massage for her. Yes, I know, it's hard to wash her without spoiling her. I suggest washing her only when her resistance is low. Like about 0-2. Therefore, first days (while she's still clean) are important.
e) you reward her more than she deserves. It's very easy to determine. The rewards and punishments are always in an order in each category. So the number that she feels she deserves indicates appropriate punishment or gratification. It's fine to under-reward, but over-rewarding will lead to spoilage. Under-rewarding will lead to slight penalty to mood. But not always.
d) under-punishing or worse, not punishing.
13. Good. Now ask her to do something. Either gymnastics or house cleaning. She'll refuse. She'll earn punishment points. Now! I know auspex costs money, but you have to learn how your punishments influence her resistance. Go and punish your slave. Start from verbal punishments. If verbal doesn't bring the result, even after a few days (auspex shows that resistance doesn't reduce), try higher levels of verbal punishment than she deserves.
14. Verbal has no result? It's fine. Get her mood up by not bothering her a few days, let her energy restore. Also restore your energy. Now ask her to do gymnastics, and as a punishment do something a bit harsh like `Shaming -> Living Canvass` (don't go further) or `Bondage -> Put on Peas`. She will protest against it. Now, there are two ways for them to protest against you. If the slave is weak and not a fighter, you'll just get a pop up saying you gave her a few bruises and then her punishment will go on. Attention! She can't protest more than once/day. Immediately after that, make her earn more punishment and punish her again, but choose a different option. Make sure neither you or her run out of energy. This is a good opportunity to make her wear a collar and shackles if you wanna try it out. Just note that they cause decrease of mood.
15. Now, this should have reduced her resistance by a few points immediately. Now your sole task is to get her back from Depression. Don't bother her, just let her recover. When they're depressed, they can either attack you, try to run or kill themselves. It's fine to have them depressed for a few days, but more than 4-5 days will get you in trouble. Note that if a slave attacks you, even if you win, the slave will earn traces of beatings trait that will render her beauty Ugly. Ugly slaves can't be sold. You now will have to wait for the traces of beatings to reduce to regular bruises state, which is ok to have.
16. If you punish your slave too often too hard, she will get traces of beatings without real fight. You want to avoid that too.
17. If you're doing your stuff correctly, the slave will start complying with your requests. At that point, it's usually a D- slave, so we don't even care to reward her.
18. Your aim here is to get her status to D-. It's easier on Easy training level. Once the status of the slave becomes D- as opposed to F, go to the slaver's guild and sell the slave to the sub-buyer. You'll get 250 sparks which should allow you like five more decades.
19. You don't like this slave? Something doesn't work as smoothly as expected? You're wasting time? The slave keeps trying to kill you? Keeps running away? Don't waste too much time trying to fix it. There are some characteristics in a slave that may make it barely doable. F2. Try again. Not a big deal. It'll get much easier later on.

D+

19. Repeat the process until you get a hand of it and earn some money. Now try get a slave to the D+ rank. To get from D- to D+, you do exactly the same except now she will start complying and earning rewards. Once you can give Erotic rewards, start doing that. You want to give hugs. for anything. A hug will train sensitivity in the slave, but it also trains your allure. Until that's available, just do verbal or stroll on a roof. If you have much more energy than your slave, you can give her one point of energy by giving her a massage, but do it only if she deserves 2 or more gratification, otherwise she'll get spoiled immediately.
20. In one day, try giving a slave different tasks and punish/gratify her in different ways. Diversity matters. Lol.
21. Watch your and your slave's energy levels. The more energy either of you have - the better. Energy is a measure of the potential effectiveness of your days. It becomes important to have slaves with higher Endurance. Your Strength matters too, but at this point you gain yours by mostly just eating well (shawarmas) and ending your turns while having a bit of energy left. Same goes for the slave, but the slave also has gymnastics that contributes to it.
22. Good. After making and selling a few D+ses, you will notice that if a D+ takes a bit longer to train (skill-wise), she can become available as an Assistant. Yes, you will need an assistant. A good assistant will have nice Endurance. It's good to have at least 3 energy for starters.
23. Perfect. Once you have an assistant, you will have at least 500 sparks. Likely more. Good to have about a thousand, but you also can just borrow 500 sparks. It's a good time to borrow. Why borrow? Cuz we're moving out from this hellish shack. We now get a $75/decade dwelling. In `W -> Trade Square -> Real Estate Office`
24. Go to your assistant. Tell her to:
a) buy Flour and grain
b) Buy Mince
c) Act as Accountant
d) Act as Cook (unless you want to train your cooking skills)
e) Supervise Slaves
f) Wash Master
g) Wash Slave
This stuff will greatly help you with saving your energy. You will also be able to use your assistant to train slaves. Use it, but keep in mind that you don't train when your assistant trains, also keep track of her energy. You don't want your assistant to run out of it.
25. Now your aim is to keep selling D+ses and improving your stats while you train them. How do you gain skills that you have none of? By getting more Men's attire. Each costume gives you some benefit. Say, Aketon gives you one level in fighting. You train a few slaves that to level D until you get yours raised to C. Keep doing that.
26. It's better to just get your Houseboy at least to C-. Then wear your Livery to get it to B. Now you can start doing guild tasks. At least to train the servants, heh.

Guild: D-

Next time :)
 
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