QSP Jack-o-Nine-Tails [v2.3] [ImperatorAugustusTertius / qwertyu12359]

[Nightofshadow]

To my fellow Slave Trainers: Case study / Nonsense

So I'm living in the slums. Playing as Jonny. Normal difficulty. On game day 253 with some developed stats/skills. I got a new slave and she turned out to be incredibly stable, she is very tolerant of being dirty and living in my dirty shack, other girls have been an absolute misery about a little bit of dirt, or even turning misserable while clean. So.

She's NOT mind broken, stats:

Beauty C
Endurance A

empathy B
temprament B
intelligence B
nature C
pride S (went up one point fromA)

From what I've absorbed out of the game so far, I feel like these stats dont fully cause/represent the behavior she displays.
So, well its a bit interesting/mysterious that there are (I would guess) quite a lot of hidden mechanics inside the girls. It makes it a bit harder to get to grips with things, but this slave stood out so much, that I could sit back and realise, "ok they have often got hidden modifiers, that explains some of the antics"

Another thing with this slave is that her stats seem to change very slowly? though I cant say that for sure, its just how it feels. she is on day 76 and been sitting on Devotion 2 for a long time though her relevant aura stats are appropriate for increasing devotion.

Ok so at some point I finally tried training her for cow (having maxed out a lot of my other training possibilities) and the game anounces to me that she is "Indolent" "Your slave is not in a hurry to use her body or her mind, and likes to just loaf: perhaps she could be more easily turned into a milk cow"

so maybe? its not just a bonus to learning cow? can that single modifier explain:
- hardly caring about dirt and filth
- slow stat development (devotion) (feels like, cant be sure)
- (personality stats/ all stats seem to change differently to other slaves (more stable / buoyant) (again hard for me to just feel/count/track this out of all the variables)

maybe she has some other hidden traits?
Its all very mysterious, more research requiered.

Last thing. The specialisation requierments information, does not mention devotion. It just mentions the skills.
The above slave is ranked C+ and has all the listed skills for assistant and for artist at B+. As I look at the requierments info listed in game, the way I read it, my slave should be there.

I'm still new to game but I think its devotion 3 (not mentioned in game) that I need before she can have a specialisation?. It would be really nice to list that for new players. It's a bit frustrating when the game states your goal in a way you might expect to rely on or trust, but then secretly doesnt mention the "other" requierments, or even that "other" requierments exist.
I nominate that small detail for your next update.

And my sincere thanks for peoples work on this project and keeping it going. Great fun.
Thankyou.

 

[UnceliusM]

Okay, i think i got somewhere. Eyes are fucked up now though. Gonna go sleep now.

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[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

her stats seem to change very slowly? though I cant say that for sure, its just how it feels. she is on day 76 and been sitting on Devotion 2 for a long time though her relevant aura stats are appropriate for increasing devotion.

How long? Just like attributes, the thresholds for aura stats double at each level. In the central forum in the trade square you can get some special tasks; one of them, when you complete it, rewards you with an artifact that lets you see more detail about slaves' auras, so what I'm telling you here is also something you can see for yourself in the game, eventually.

Ok so at some point I finally tried training her for cow (having maxed out a lot of my other training possibilities) and the game anounces to me that she is "Indolent" "Your slave is not in a hurry to use her body or her mind, and likes to just loaf: perhaps she could be more easily turned into a milk cow"

so maybe? its not just a bonus to learning cow? can that single modifier explain:
- hardly caring about dirt and filth
- slow stat development (devotion) (feels like, cant be sure)
- (personality stats/ all stats seem to change differently to other slaves (more stable / buoyant) (again hard for me to just feel/count/track this out of all the variables)

It would be interesting if it had all of these effects but no, it's just a bonus for cow-related activities (including living in the barn as a cow).

maybe she has some other hidden traits?
Its all very mysterious, more research requiered.

Possibly. Some traits are only revealed when you interact with them, like this one. Conversely, if a trait is still hidden, it probably hasn't affected you.

Last thing. The specialisation requierments information, does not mention devotion. It just mentions the skills.

Devotion is not required for any specialization. Devotion is required for higher rating and to be eligible for the assistant role.

The above slave is ranked C+ and has all the listed skills for assistant and for artist at B+. As I look at the requierments info listed in game, the way I read it, my slave should be there.

What makes you think she lacks those specializations? An assistant could confirm for you, but if she fulfills the listed requirements then she qualifies.

I'm still new to game but I think its devotion 3 (not mentioned in game) that I need before she can have a specialisation?. It would be really nice to list that for new players. It's a bit frustrating when the game states your goal in a way you might expect to rely on or trust, but then secretly doesnt mention the "other" requierments, or even that "other" requierments exist.
I nominate that small detail for your next update.

Are you perhaps confusing specialization with something else? What are you trying to do?

And my sincere thanks for peoples work on this project and keeping it going. Great fun.
Thankyou.

 

[Negro Tercermundista]

HAHAHAHA YES YES

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The human model is doing better, still not perfect but at least is not eating hair and arms now (now is eating forehead tho), it seems that there are options that can help to have more control over how "strong" the AI can remove the background, but a lot of guess work is involved, maybe tweaking it until it reaches the sweet spot where it works for every picture is the answer or maybe mass deletion and then redo it individually with the pictures that have issues is the way to go, more testing will tell.

 

[Nightofshadow]

How long?

I'm going to try for that item you mention, sounds interesting.

This particular slave is able to stay calm while being dirty all the time and living in my dirty shack. She is so tolerant of it compared to other slaves that it makes me want to find other slaves that might act the same way as her. Or to find out what it is that is making her so easy. It feels like she is behaving radically different to other slaves yet she is not mindbroken and her stats look quite average to me so I'm just really interested to find out what is making her effectivly a "super slave". She's perfect I could just keep her in a dustbin full of filth for a few weeks while I train her. I cant work out where her super powers come from. The "Indolent" trait was the only discernable difference between her and several other slaves that were prone to misery. I guess I need to try testing it more. I'll try to get the same personality stats on another slave and see what happens. I cant really read code but the gameplay feels like there are hidden variables. I need to get a feel for it.

Devotion is not required for any specialization. Devotion is required for higher rating and to be eligible for the assistant role.

mm what you say there seems to cancel itself in a way - "Devotion is not requiered for any specialisation" + "Devotion is required for higher rating and to be eligible for the assistant role"

"Assistant" IS a specialized role, and if either "devotion" or a "specific slave rating" are directly requiered to be an assistant then they should be listed on the requierments page. Surely? Why wouldnt you put that information into a panel called "Specialization Requierments"

The requierments panel states the following:

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
All skills and attributes requiered by a specialisation must be at least B+ in level (unless otherwise specified) and must meet or exceed the slaves rating/rank (whichever is greater)

1.
2. Assistant specialization - Secretary and Elocution
3.
4.

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
In the panel, is "the slaves rank/rating" refering to two seperate things?

In the panel it doesn't say anywhere that there is a minimum slave rank to become an assistant.

What I was trying to say with my related coment im my previous post was: The requierments panel should include, at least, all the direct requierments of the specialisation. If you don't at least half agree then I'm quite surprised.

You could add the words "slave rating C+" for example, to the line refering to the assisstant. That would improve the functionality of the panel.

I'm just sugesting this because I think it would help open the game up to new players, so more people could enjoy it, more easily. Its a great game. I love these ones with a personality model.

Great game.

 

[qwertyu12359]

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Jack-o-nine-tails v2.2.3
pixeldrain - workupload - mega
2.6Gb -> 1.44Gb

Loli patch v2.2.3
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- mega
550Mb -> 280Mb

I will add the link to the compressed version on the OP by the end of today

About the patch, mods and even the admin told us they don't want direct links to it. What we're allowed to is post a link that contains a link. For exemple, a link to lewdpatcher which has the link to the patch. Or a link to a wiki section that contains the patch and the patch alone.

Lame compromise but it was a condition to keep the thread alive. I'm not a police though, just saying

Here are torrents for Patch and the game separately.
Will try to seed them as well

Also that will work even less with F95 mods. I'll post the link to the torrent in the OP, thank you very much for taking the initiative. The torrent to the patch itself, even if bundled separately, has to be linked by another website page which preferably contains only that.

Man, it halved the size? truly impressive, that means double the content is possible

I'm all for lossless compression (and still, there might be drawbacks for overdoing it, at least for audio). Lossy compression, not so much. That's why we went to .png and .wav to begin with.

There might be acceptable cases, for exemple when generating an image yourself, if the size of the end result is 10mb for a picture, then that's clearly too much and we should aim for an acceptable, barely destructive level of compression.

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

This particular slave is able to stay calm while being dirty all the time and living in my dirty shack. She is so tolerant of it compared to other slaves that it makes me want to find other slaves that might act the same way as her. Or to find out what it is that is making her so easy. It feels like she is behaving radically different to other slaves yet she is not mindbroken and her stats look quite average to me so I'm just really interested to find out what is making her effectivly a "super slave". She's perfect I could just keep her in a dustbin full of filth for a few weeks while I train her. I cant work out where her super powers come from. The "Indolent" trait was the only discernable difference between her and several other slaves that were prone to misery. I guess I need to try testing it more. I'll try to get the same personality stats on another slave and see what happens. I cant really read code but the gameplay feels like there are hidden variables. I need to get a feel for it.

So it's her mood that seems unusual? Ask her how she is feeling. Take note of the positives and negatives, and you can compare to other slaves.

mm what you say there seems to cancel itself in a way - "Devotion is not requiered for any specialisation" + "Devotion is required for higher rating and to be eligible for the assistant role"

"Assistant" IS a specialized role, and if either "devotion" or a "specific slave rating" are directly requiered to be an assistant then they should be listed on the requierments page. Surely? Why wouldnt you put that information into a panel called "Specialization Requierments"

I see the confusion here. Being your assistant is something different from being qualified to be sold as an assistant. Specialization requirements are qualifications for sale to buyers who want a slave with a particular set of skills. To be your assistant only requires enough devotion to be trusted with a position of responsibility.

In the panel, is "the slaves rank/rating" refering to two seperate things?

Rank/rating are used interchangeably. Same thing.

In the panel it doesn't say anywhere that there is a minimum slave rank to become an assistant.

That's because there isn't a minimum rank.

 

[Darkboi7383737]

could anyone tell me what the first two stats next to charm are on the anatomy tab? trying to sell a slave but no one wants her because i think her charm is shite and two of the stats(?) determining her charm only say unknown

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

could anyone tell me what the first two stats next to charm are on the anatomy tab? trying to sell a slave but no one wants her because i think her charm is shite and two of the stats(?) determining her charm only say unknown

Slave fame and slaver brand reputation.

 

[Nightofshadow]

So it's her mood that seems unusual? Ask her how she is feeling. Take note of the positives and negatives, and you can compare to other slaves.


I see the confusion here. Being your assistant is something different from being qualified to be sold as an assistant. Specialization requirements are qualifications for sale to buyers who want a slave with a particular set of skills. To be your assistant only requires enough devotion to be trusted with a position of responsibility.


Rank/rating are used interchangeably. Same thing.


That's because there isn't a minimum rank.

Thats helpful, indeed. Thankyou.

 

[Nightofshadow]

So I'm still here with Jonny and I'm having an embarrasing problem with my "little man" if you get the picture. Any advice how to work through that? Marriage guidance councelling? Ointment made out of tiger penises?

The tips say
healthy lifestyle - that might be ok cos my strength it B+
regular sex life - difficult if my knob is on the blink, I'm cussently giving kissing and licking lessons to get myself back in the mood. maybe id be better with "stripteases" and prostituts from town?
apart from that im not sick or injured,

ill try some of the non teaching sex activites

 

[ImperatorAugustusTertius]

So I'm still here with Jonny and I'm having an embarrasing problem with my "little man" if you get the picture. Any advice how to work through that? Marriage guidance councelling? Ointment made out of tiger penises?

The tips say
healthy lifestyle - that might be ok cos my strength it B+
regular sex life - difficult if my knob is on the blink, I'm cussently giving kissing and licking lessons to get myself back in the mood. maybe id be better with "stripteases" and prostituts from town?
apart from that im not sick or injured,

ill try some of the non teaching sex activites

You're on the right track. Do something that raises his arousal, then have sex. Slave > entertain me. Demonstration/kissing lessons. Erotic massage from trade square. Aphrodisiac potions.

 

[hyfka]

How do you prevent a negative mood downwards spiral?
Slave messes up because of bad mood -> punish -> her mood drops even more -> eventually she attacks me -> beat her -> she gets up -> refuses to do anything -> punish -> get attacked -> she dies

 

[Nightofshadow]

How do you prevent a negative mood downwards spiral?
Slave messes up because of bad mood -> punish -> her mood drops even more -> eventually she attacks me -> beat her -> she gets up -> refuses to do anything -> punish -> get attacked -> she dies

When they are new you can use encourage a few times. you can give them a constant mood boost with clothing - sundress - slippers. you can choose where they sleep / what they eat( not certain if that helps). you can reduce negative impact on their mood by not making them wear colar or shackles, other things as well. its a bit of a balancing act. Also your stats and their stats will be effecting the mix. There is some info on the wiki.

also watch out for spoiling them by mistake, and have a look at their aura ocaisionaly with auspex.

 

[Negro Tercermundista]

New run, daddy google just gave me green light and I'll try to squeeze as much juice as I can from it, we already saw that it can pretty much give any clothes, let's see what else is possible other than clothes.

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Aaaand... my time is up, couldn't make it to the mood test.
What I take from this is that pregnancy and breast size are doable, weight? maybe, tatoos? maybe but I'm feeling like the prompts that didn't show results may work if plain words are used instead of tags, will see in later tests.

 

[UnceliusM]

New run, daddy google just gave me green light, we already saw that it can pretty much give any clothes, let's see what else is possible other than clothes.

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Aaaand... my time is up, couldn't make it to the mood test.
What I take from this is that pregnancy and breast size are doable, weight? maybe, tatoos? maybe but I'm feeling like the prompts that didn't show results may work if plain words are used instead of tags, will see in later testes.

Managed to get the thing working somewhat better than the one i used previously. Head is still outside the frame.

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I don't know how, but it just works toddhoward.jpg

 

[Dedensai]

Anyone else having trouble with Issebel status falling back down to F as an assistant?

 

[Drawning]

New run, daddy google just gave me green light and I'll try to squeeze as much juice as I can from it, we already saw that it can pretty much give any clothes, let's see what else is possible other than clothes.

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Aaaand... my time is up, couldn't make it to the mood test.
What I take from this is that pregnancy and breast size are doable, weight? maybe, tatoos? maybe but I'm feeling like the prompts that didn't show results may work if plain words are used instead of tags, will see in later tests.

are you generating images with ai? and if so which one do you use? what is your prompt

 

[Negro Tercermundista]

Managed to get the thing working somewhat better than the one i used previously. Head is still outside the frame.

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I don't know how, but it just works toddhoward.jpg

Try with out_of_focus in the negative.
Edit: Wrong, it´s out_of_frame... maybe use both?

are you generating images with ai? and if so which one do you use? what is your prompt

The leak ckpt with the AUTOMATIC111 web ui, the prompt is on the first spoiler of that post.

 

[Drawning]

anyone got wiki link?