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Why does rubbing have no images? I always get the same default image. I know there was some debate about it being too close to titjob, but I think it might be closer to massaging. One of the later lesson texts mentions oil slipping.
Why there are little to no images for rubbing is simply our legacy. In v1.2.1, there were no images for it. You'd get your fullbody girl in front of the bedroom background, and a textual description. No attributed scene (in other words, no pics).

In general, scenes were added little by little, but it's only for v2.0+ that rubbing scenes were implemented (generic, and brown_long_young as well a brown_short_milf). 46 pics to go! I left it for later, to focus on the essential, then forgot about it. :coffee:

I'd do it now, but well, there's a loss of time (job, family...) and more importantly motivation. I'd need to clone the Git again, find non-slop pictures, edit them... all for pics to be stretched by the engine anyway, and them to be seen by almost no one until the next update. It's not all gloomy, I want to do it. But I think we also need new blood; new team members, with knowledge of the lore, coding prowess, or artistic sensibility; so we can find back excitement in collaboration, and do stuff. Case in point: right before last update, when Lokplart came back for a month, we worked just as intensely in 30 days that in a year prior. This is the kind of dynamics we need to get back on track.
 

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Is sexual training necessary to increase a slave's obedience past a certain point? For example, at D rank, obedience barely goes up, but after a successful sexual training session, I noticed it started rising more.
 

slandy

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Is sexual training necessary to increase a slave's obedience past a certain point? For example, at D rank, obedience barely goes up, but after a successful sexual training session, I noticed it started rising more.
It isn't necessary but is one of the things that can work depending on where you're at with her. Certain sexual training can decrease pride, which can in turn increase obedience. There are other ways to do that, training is just one of them.
 

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I dont know maybe im looking not wher ei should... but i just cant find it.
Could you guys give some some basic tips on how to play Johnny/normal diff? Im at around day 110, im doing only guild gladiatrix tasks, im barly maintaining my finance ballance and all the time my str is at verge of frail...
 
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I dont know maybe im looking not wher ei should... but i just cant find it.
Could you guys give some some basic tips on how to play Johnny/normal diff? Im at around day 110, im doing only guild gladiatrix tasks, im barly maintaining my finance ballance and all the time my str is at verge of frail...
johny isn’t really a ‘normal difficulty’ character. this game’s difficulty is much more impacted by your character’s starting resources and skills than the ‘obedience difficulty’ of training the slaves. the only real ‘basic tips’ i can think of to give you are to ‘make more money’ (train and sell slaves faster and more often) or just play an easier character, for anything in-depth you’ll have to be more specific about what you’re struggling with and what kind of routing you’re doing
 

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johny isn’t really a ‘normal difficulty’ character. this game’s difficulty is much more impacted by your character’s starting resources and skills than the ‘obedience difficulty’ of training the slaves. the only real ‘basic tips’ i can think of to give you are to ‘make more money’ (train and sell slaves faster and more often) or just play an easier character, for anything in-depth you’ll have to be more specific about what you’re struggling with and what kind of routing you’re doing
I cant keep my str. I eat meet for 3$ at Virging hip and i go to sleep wihtout red stars and still my str exp goes down by at least 1 point everynight. Atm i cant keep my char at fighting, breaking my slaves obedience at a same time...
Also i wonder if i didnt rent house too fast...
 
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I cant keep my str. I eat meet for 3$ at Virging hip and i go to sleep wihtout red stars and still my str exp goes down by at least 1 point everynight. Atm i cant keep my char at fighting, breaking my slaves obedience at a same time...
i can't really think of what could be decreasing your strength unless you're wounded or ill (go to the technosphere for a checkup and see what they say?). it could also be kamra addiction, if you drink too much kamra for too long you lose 1 str per day (to avoid addiction only drink it on even-numbered days, and never drink when you have F- str). alcohol addiction, pollen addiction, and oblivion addiction can also decrease strength but those are much more immediate and obvious.

still, it shouldn't be that hard to get your strength up in the early game... when your strength is low, even simple things like spanking your slave with a slipper can give you strength xp.

Also i wonder if i didnt rent house too fast...
if you have to ask, the answer is probably yes. on high difficulty characters you should be renting a house on day 199 or 299, or even later (preferably also a day that ends on 99) if you need more time in the slums.
 
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If a slave "forces herself to study" does that mean i do not get any exp? When is A+?
Should i dump house and return to slums?
What should i spent money on 1st?
 
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If a slave "forces herself to study" does that mean i do not get any exp? When is A+?
Should i dump house and return to slums?
"forces herself to study" is diligence 1. diligence ranges from 0 to 5, and only at 0 do you have a chance to get 0 experience from the session. still, 1 is pretty bad. the diligence categories are described as "doesn't try at all", "forces herself to study", "not very attentive", "no more than satisfactory", "praiseworthy", and "a perfect score". if she's only just started to obey, try raising her mood before doing a lesson, that's a good way to get higher diligence (and when she's just starting to obey, higher diligence means more merit, so you can get away with stronger/more effective rewards).

What should i spent money on 1st?
it depends on what you're asking. are you asking what you should spend money on at the start of a new run? (if that's the question, it depends on the character). are you asking what you should spend money on when you first pick up a slave? (if that's the question, it depends on your character, your stats, how much money you have, how long you expect to train the slave, what rank you expect to train the slave to...) are you asking what you should spend money on if you're mid-run and are trying to salvage things but have no idea how to start? (i can't even begin to answer that without significantly more context)

in all cases, it depends on what character you're playing and other context. if you just want an example of early game routing, here's a post i made about that earlier -- https://f95zone.to/threads/jack-o-n...ugustustertius-qwertyu12359.390/post-16973406 (i will note that this routing isn't perfect and i've thought of a couple of changes i'd make since then... the most notable one i'm thinking of is the idea of selling the first (or maybe just second) slave to the anatomical theater)
 

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in all cases, it depends on what character you're playing and other context. if you just want an example of early game routing, here's a post i made about that earlier -- https://f95zone.to/threads/jack-o-n...ugustustertius-qwertyu12359.390/post-16973406 (i will note that this routing isn't perfect and i've thought of a couple of changes i'd make since then... the most notable one i'm thinking of is the idea of selling the first (or maybe just second) slave to the anatomical theater)
Is that guide meant for high difficulty and difficult starting characters? You can definetly get away with training your second or third slave to C+ on most normal starts.
 

slandy

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I finally got around to playing the actual game on Normal Start, and I have to say it's pretty cool. After beating all the tutorials and practicing a lot in custom mode, I was able to pick Johny on extreme difficulty and I just trained a D- slave in 10 days, which earned me over 600 sparks, minus spending I'm sitting on 790 sparks already on day 11. It made me think a lot and I did every single thing with a purpose, but this feels very possible and it was pretty fun.

Edit: and the next slave I got to D- in 7 days. The key seems to be giving her a dress, making her a bit afraid, then take her to the spa and send her to school while making her entertain me. I spent 100 sparks on her already but she's D- and optimistic.

I just realized this isn't the hardest difficulty, it's just Johny on normal. I wouldn't be going this fast on hardcore difficulty lol
 
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slandy

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I dont know maybe im looking not wher ei should... but i just cant find it.
Could you guys give some some basic tips on how to play Johnny/normal diff? Im at around day 110, im doing only guild gladiatrix tasks, im barly maintaining my finance ballance and all the time my str is at verge of frail...
Basically what I did is pick slaves with low pride, nature and temperament so they are easy to train and less likely to kick my ass, but they are also healthy so they have a lot of energy to do many things in one day. I give them a sundress pretty much immediately and do the explain/encourage thing. Whenever they are upset about being dirty I take them to the spa until they are happy to be dirty. Set the necessary rules and aside from that, I have the slave doing most of the work by going to school and performing for me. Punish when necessary to build some fear, take her out or let her use the hot springs and such when merit allows it. Give gifts and sweets when merit allows.

I pretty much ignored Johny to save money, his strength tanked but I didn't need it anyway. After training a D- and a D+ slave I had over 1200 sparks. I spent about 200 to get Johny's strength back up so he can actually do some things, and now I have 1027 sparks on day 73 with his strength at Unfit (4 stars of energy) which is plenty for how I do things at this stage.
 
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Is that guide meant for high difficulty and difficult starting characters? You can definetly get away with training your second or third slave to C+ on most normal starts.
yeah, that's routing around a 0-stat 200-spark extreme difficulty start. if you start with even a little more you can definitely get away with D+ or even C+.
 
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slandy

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I find one issue I'm having is that awareness doesn't want to go up, and sometimes goes down. Yes I read the tutorial and I'm doing what it says. I'm getting by so far but I'm having to do it almost entirely on habit and fear, because devotion and taming will not go up at all, and awareness is super finicky for some reason.

Also spoiling seems to go up even if I reward equal to or less than merit. Is it supposed to do that?

Edit: BDSM gear seems to work, but this doesn't seem to be following the tutorial whatsoever.
 
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aumhs

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are you using any clothing with +taming? that's normally relatively easy to raise. devotion is something that won't really build until she's already obedient, in most cases.
 

slandy

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are you using any clothing with +taming? that's normally relatively easy to raise. devotion is something that won't really build until she's already obedient, in most cases.
I was not, since I gathered that how you treat the slave is the main way of raising things, but now that I tried some out I can see some increase. Also I didn't want to make the slave upset and possibly attack me (I did that once and got a game over) and it tends to make the slave unhappy. I guess I need to find the right time to use it.
 

slandy

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Stuck on taming again even with +taming clothes. Not going up and some times going down.

Edit: It's going up again and I literally didn't even do anything.

Aaand it went down. Didn't do anything once again.

Cleaned the house and it's going up. Is that it??
Nope, messy house and it went up. What the hell.

And she killed me. It's like it's a totally different game all of a sudden.

Edit: I didn't need taming for the previous three slaves I did, but this one's obedience is too low and I absolutely need it, but can't seem to make it happen no matter what I do.

I got fed up and set obedience to easy to clear this contract so that I didn't end up taking that girl to the butcher.
 
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slandy

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I tried my other slaver in my sandbox game and have no issues blazing through taming right away, so what it seems like is that I'm hitting a cap with Johny due to him being bad at something/everything.
 
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