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PietruccioTheHilander

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Well in the end I couldn't resist and I played the update. I must say that the wait has been repaid, it seems to me a good update and if it had come out with the two missing scenes it would have been the top. Here's what I think:
- the lesbian scene with heather ok, even if it was a little obvious, it was obvious that something would happen in the gym.
-the scene with parker I was sure that jessica would stop by him in the morning, but in my opinion a couple of extra renders to push further were fine: jessica's hand could open her pants very well and end up in it quickly.
-beautiful scene at the restaurant with the boy, I didn't think jessica could do much.
- missing the meeting with Tommy, we don't know when the LARP will take place.
-well the recovery of the appointment with Blake who will be in the WE.
- well also the return of Victor, something tells me that we will see him again in action with jessica.
for me the speed of progression of the story is fine.
practically every day there is a sex scene with conner and heather.
for parker it is logical that she does not jump on him immediately, certainly in the last scene he should have dared a little more.
it seems consistent with the time spent
 
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mugizib

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i don't play adult game for story. it's useless

if you want story read books ^^'
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Let me explain something simple to you: Those little colored rectangles on top mean something, for example:
Video means Video
Comics means Comics
VN stands for Visual Novel
I think you should start reading, trying to understand them and later, go to the right forum.
 

afterlights

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I know people have said that stoper has said he won't do incest, but COME ON!! Either they're deliberately teasing us or they don't fully realise how these lines can be interpreted.
I don't want to move focus from our heroine, but was there any teasing between Heather and Jessica's sister on their run? I don't think Heather is predatory, but Jessica's awakening could bring their orbits closer to possible paths that don't involve explicit incest.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Well in the end I couldn't resist and I played the update. I must say that the wait has been repaid, it seems to me a good update and if it had come out with the two missing scenes it would have been the top. Here's what I think: for me the speed of progression of the story is fine.
practically every day there is a sex scene with conner and heather.
for parker it is logical that she does not jump on him immediately, certainly in the last scene he should have dared a little more.
it seems consistent with the time spent
The fact that Jess gets at least one sexual release a day with another person is more than most people get in real life. so if she started having about 4 or 5 a day it would start to feel a bit ridiculous and this game has a nice, relatively grounded feel to it.

The story progression is good, although I would like to see development progression too and that stoper will at least drop developing the zombie spin-off game and spend more time on this.

Yeah this game has been in development for two years now and hasn't gotten to the appealing part of the game yet
Which is? :WaitWhat:
 

JesterAI

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Which is? :WaitWhat:

The whole appeal of the plot to me is a mechanism to set up this sequence:

1. Virtuous character willing to be corrupted a little to accomplish a virtuous goal
2. Virtuous character starts enjoying the corruption
3. Virtuous character falls deeply into the corruption

The fun stuff doesn't happen until late in stage 2-3, everything else is filler noise to a casual player like me. So many games are the same, they spend forever in stage 1 and will never reach the fun part.

The game looks great, the characters are fine, the plot is set up, okay, now I don't care about any of the other garbage, just get to the sex.

Obviously this is just my opinion, other people certainly do enjoy a long buildup.
 
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ashitanojoe

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I think many people here are mixing two things: the story pace and the development progress. We need to remember that the VN should be done thinking in the final user of the game, who will play the game when is complete. I read many complaints about that 2 years have passed and there's no sex with another man than her boyfriend. You are forgetting that the game experience that we have, who are waiting months for new updates, will not be the same experience for who will play the game when is finished. The 2 years waiting for a sex scene with another man for us, will be like 2 hours for a player of the complete version. Do you think that 2 hours of play time in which there is a lot of flirting, teasing and several sex scenes with the boyfriend and lesbian sex scenes is really that much waiting? stoper is creating an erotic VN with explicit sex not a pornographic one. And you should understand that both things are not the same. The erotic novels have higher artistic values and an interest in narrating a coherent story, which could involves drama, psychological restlessness, conflict, etc. So, the stories need time to emerge.

Nobody is happy with the slow development, me included. I think that to create this kind of projects you should work in team, but stoper isn't earning that much to hire more people. So, it is what it is.
 
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Amahl Farouk

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It is quite funny reading the dev talking about slow pacing being a good thing. In principle I would agree. The problem here is not one of pacing, but of production of content. Take as long as you want to tell the story, but PRODUCE a decent amount of content per update, particularly given how infrequently the game actually is updated.

I am not trying to rag on the dev this time round, there is little benefit in it for anyone. But given the number of wails of protest here, including from people who actually subscribe/or have newly unsubscribed, a wise man might take the critisism on board and up the content per month quotient. But then, when you have a nice little cash cow, it is difficult not to milk it a little bit I suppose.

Nobody is happy with the slow development, me included. I think that to create this kind of projects you should work in team, but @stoper isn't earning that much to hire more people
stoper is in the upper tier of devs in terms of earnings, He is making just a whisker under 2k usd a month gross before tax and such like. That's more than enough to bring in a code monkey and a spare renderer. I agree that one fella producing high quality work is going to to be hard pushed to pull a game like this off, but say he isn't making good money, particularly given the low output just isn't accurate. I would be very happy to pull in that kind of money per month

They're also trying to develop 3 projects at once as a solo dev and that has got to stop. This is their main game, their flagship, and where all their effort should be focused.
THIS is the problem and your recommendation is exactly correct, and this is also the reason I for one am a bit pissed off at the game.
 

Holy Bacchus

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The whole appeal of the plot to me is a mechanism to set up this sequence:

1. Virtuous character willing to be corrupted a little to accomplish a virtuous goal
2. Virtuous character starts enjoying the corruption
3. Virtuous character falls deeply into the corruption

The fun stuff doesn't happen until late in stage 2-3, everything else is filler noise to a casual player like me. So many games are the same, they spend forever in stage 1 and will never reach the fun part.

The game looks great, the characters are fine, the plot is set up, okay, now I don't care about any of the other garbage, just get to the sex.

Obviously this is just my opinion, other people certainly do enjoy a long buildup.
Well, that's interesting, because I see a very different sequence:
  1. Faithful character in a relationship starts to explore new experiences
  2. Character becomes less faithful as they begin to enjoy new experiences and question their relationship
  3. Character now wishes to end relationship to continue these experiences freely or to start a new relationship with someone else.
Both are perhaps possible and neither are necessarily what this game is designed to be, but rather it's designed to be whatever the player wants it to be.

Nobody is happy with the slow development, me included. I think that to create this kind of projects you should work in team, but stoper isn't earning that much to hire more people. So, it is what it is.
They're also trying to develop 3 projects at once as a solo dev and that has got to stop. This is their main game, their flagship, and where all their effort should be focused.
 

mma456

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stoper This version of Jessica was by far the best one, that hairstyle was super hot and along with that open collar pink shirt and tight black skirt everything just fit in perfectly. The update itself was awesome with the short Parker scene to that massive ending and it seems like its only going to get better from here on out, also noticed how you cleverly adjusted alot of scenes to take place later to give yourself some space, good thinking instead of omitting them entirely. All the best to you and hope you start planning better and come out stronger for the next update, just dont loose hope is all i will say and good luck.
 

stoper

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Amahl Farouk I'm trying to speed up the development process, but there isn't much that I can do. The only thing is to lower the technical quality (fixing every piece of clothing, not making clothing morphs for undressing and stuff, not fixing the weird character bends and twists, not fixing the long hair, etc..). I understand that most people don't care about this stuff, but I do. And if I'm not happy with the game I make, why even bother?
I don't care about the money. If I wanted to make money, I'd be making a first person incest game with male protagonist. Daddy is dead, and the guy with the big dick (you) has to take care of mommy and little sis. Or just a random harem game. Slap some fast DAZ renders with default assets, and as long as it looks decent and there's a lot of sex, people are happy.
And this milking thing is just funny. What am I milking? A minimum wage after taxes? And why? Why not make more content, hence make more money? It's not like I'll run out of ideas for sex scenes.
 

VulgarJoys

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I think many people here are mixing two things: the story pace and the development progress. We need to remember that the VN should be done thinking in the final user of the game, who will play the game when is complete. I read many complaints about that 2 years have passed and there's no sex with another man than her husband. You are forgetting that the game experience that we have, who are waiting months for new updates, will not be the same experience for who will play the game when is finished. The 2 years waiting for a sex scene with another man for us, will be like 2 hours for a player of the complete version. Do you think that 2 hours of play time in which there is a lot of flirting, teasing and several sex scenes with the husband and lesbian sex scenes is really that much waiting? stoper is creating an erotic VN with explicit sex not a pornographic one. And you should understand that both things are not the same. The erotic novels have higher artistic values and an interest in narrating a coherent story, which could involves drama, psychological restlessness, conflict, etc. So, the stories need time to emerge.

Nobody is happy with the slow development, me included. I think that to create this kind of projects you should work in team, but stoper isn't earning that much to hire more people. So, it is what it is.
I somehow think that this game will never be finished!
And it's not that the Stoper doesn't have a team or anything else. This is an Amateur project, the only criticism of combining it with other projects... It makes me feel numb!!! :mad:
 

Amahl Farouk

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Amahl Farouk I'm trying to speed up the development process, but there isn't much that I can do. The only thing is to lower the technical quality (fixing every piece of clothing, not making clothing morphs for undressing and stuff, not fixing the weird character bends and twists, not fixing the long hair, etc..). I understand that most people don't care about this stuff, but I do. And if I'm not happy with the game I make, why even bother?
I don't care about the money. If I wanted to make money, I'd be making a first person incest game with male protagonist. Daddy is dead, and the guy with the big dick (you) has to take care of mommy and little sis. Or just a random harem game. Slap some fast DAZ renders with default assets, and as long as it looks decent and there's a lot of sex, people are happy.
And this milking thing is just funny. What am I milking? A minimum wage after taxes? And why? Why not make more content, hence make more money? It's not like I'll run out of ideas for sex scenes.
Where I live, a doctor makes about 800 USD a month so I guess that earnings satisfaction depends on where you are. I get that it is difficult for you stoper, all I can suggest is to reach out to the community here for help with the heavy lifting, you have a very popular game and I am sure you could attract some willing helpers.
 
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VulgarJoys

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Amahl Farouk I'm trying to speed up the development process, but there isn't much that I can do. The only thing is to lower the technical quality (fixing every piece of clothing, not making clothing morphs for undressing and stuff, not fixing the weird character bends and twists, not fixing the long hair, etc..). I understand that most people don't care about this stuff, but I do. And if I'm not happy with the game I make, why even bother?
I don't care about the money. If I wanted to make money, I'd be making a first person incest game with male protagonist. Daddy is dead, and the guy with the big dick (you) has to take care of mommy and little sis. Or just a random harem game. Slap some fast DAZ renders with default assets, and as long as it looks decent and there's a lot of sex, people are happy.
And this milking thing is just funny. What am I milking? A minimum wage after taxes? And why? Why not make more content, hence make more money? It's not like I'll run out of ideas for sex scenes.
You were clearly playing big brother!))) :ROFLMAO:
 
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Amahl Farouk I'm trying to speed up the development process, but there isn't much that I can do. The only thing is to lower the technical quality (fixing every piece of clothing, not making clothing morphs for undressing and stuff, not fixing the weird character bends and twists, not fixing the long hair, etc..). I understand that most people don't care about this stuff, but I do. And if I'm not happy with the game I make, why even bother?
I don't care about the money. If I wanted to make money, I'd be making a first person incest game with male protagonist. Daddy is dead, and the guy with the big dick (you) has to take care of mommy and little sis. Or just a random harem game. Slap some fast DAZ renders with default assets, and as long as it looks decent and there's a lot of sex, people are happy.
And this milking thing is just funny. What am I milking? A minimum wage after taxes? And why? Why not make more content, hence make more money? It's not like I'll run out of ideas for sex scenes.
Waiting for the full juicy episode)))
 

armion82

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always better than the 10 of AWAM
Must be a dream AWAM to be done in 10 years.Almost 3 are already gone.
The fact that Jess gets at least one sexual release a day with another person is more than most people get in real life. so if she started having about 4 or 5 a day it would start to feel a bit ridiculous and this game has a nice, relatively grounded feel to it.

The story progression is good, although I would like to see development progression too and that stoper will at least drop developing the zombie spin-off game and spend more time on this.



Which is? :WaitWhat:
I still don't understand why so many continue to torture themselves.It is easy-you don't like the game or the speed of the game- play another game.There is Anna,Lily,Linda,Katie,Chloe,Elena and many more in which a female MC is having sex at least 3-4 times each day.Why don't they play these games?Is this thread full of masochists?Is that what get them off?
 
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