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balvenie1401

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I agree with you! I've said it many times: he doesn't respect his paying fans. He only think about his personal satisfaction! (it is not such a good thing for an artist)
You don't agree with me since that wasn't the point I was making..

My point was that he as dev is the only one who has a say in when it's done and ready, as it should be. But you may of course interpret it however you like..
 
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balvenie1401

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depends situation, if single and no expensive hobbies and doesn't live in big city (paris, berrlin, london, etc) but if is family man then yea better salary is needed.
I don't havev to support a family and don't live in a mayor city, not even close.. I would get by on that in my early twenties for sure, even now I could easily survive on it but it's still barely minimum wage and I would not accept that as a full time pay. Full disclosure; I work in healthcare (underpayed by default) and make about €3000-3500/month, which is pretty shitty already..
Surviving and living is not really the same, as an adult just surviving is not an appealing option, you want some comfort..
 

defd©™

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You don't agree with me since that wasn't the point I was making..

My point was that he as dev is the only one who has a say in when it's done and ready, as it should be. But you may of course interpret it however you like..
Maybe I was not clear... :unsure: BUT
I agree with your statement because for me all artists must be free to do whatever they wants...
the rest of my post starts with a big BUT!! And I d not pretend you have to agree with me after the BUT ;)... I agree with you for sure!
I got a big delusion! when in the 2019 I have found this great game
I was so happy... but in Feb 2020 I realize that stoper was working on another game "Paola" it's a question of trust for me I had also started to support her patreon page
...from that day I have lost trust in him... I understood that this game will requires 4/5 years.


There are artists that loves to communicate how the story is going just to satisfy their fans or enjoy about their suggestions... they usually get thousands of supporter.
Stoper is different
He do not care about get more supporters...
And I will never support him because his communication do not fit with my tastes.. the slow burn and the game will be ready in more than 4 years..

Check out one of his last replay https://f95zone.to/threads/jessica-oneils-hard-news-v0-41-stoperart.15081/post-6147503

it is clear to me! he wants make the game when he wants... without caring if there are users that will never support him
and I AGREED WITH YOUR POST BECAUSE this is Stoper: He can do whatever he want....
but I'm also free to don't support him and download the game only when it will be at day 30... maybe in the 2024!... it is Ok for me.. I'm not in hurry"

...even if Stoper does not care, I'm here because his story has great potential... I will play other games from developers that are faster then him as he already suggest in the post I have linked...

I will be here from time to time just for talk about how the delays are going and the very short updates when they comes/cum out (in Jessica pussy??) :LOL::LOL:
When there will be a man (not her husband) or (hope more men) that will cum inside Jessica pussy then i will be happy to download this game.
 

pavlogrk

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if he delayed the update again to put more stuff in great but i hope its not half a day again but 2-3 days at least !!!
otherwise ...... its all about getting more money! And no respect for those who give him their hard earned money!
 
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Bolero

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Feel like I read this before.

I love JOHN and currently its one of three games I have any real interest in on this site and Stoper has been doing a great job with this game seriously when its all said and done and this game is completely finished I know it will be up there

But I feel like I've read the same Development Blog over and over, and I don't want to come off like "is it out yet? is it out yet? Can you hurry up? Finish it already" where I want Stoper to just do what he needs to do to finish up with whatever time he needs, that plus the thought of seeing "Hey its coming out soon" in every Development Blog gets almost repeitive.

But that could very well just be a me problem, and if it is please tell me.
It is not just you. His dev blogs when the update is close to being released are very similar. The pattern is that he always has to do just some additional thing and the update will be out. So then the update that was already a long time in the making gets released 1+ month later than it was initially supposed to . That is fine if it happens sometimes ( making a game is a creative process), but when it becomes something that is repeating constantly then it becomes annoying.
 
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TeamEquipe

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I perfectly know the question he posted...

Fashion Business is a female protagonist game and comes with very slow burn like AWAM (that is a 3D game and was also in his question) great Renders and Animations... ok it is with sandbox structure... but
FB tell about a woman in carrier in the fashion MAGAZINE world...
Jessica work as journalist in a Magazine (this is very similar to me)
Jessica and Monica are the most similar female protagonists you can find in this forum... they are both works in a magazine different genre of magazine but it is the most similar you can find about this point...

Jessica is a new entry Journalist and Monica was the director of her own magazine
I do not talk about tastes... I'm just talk about "SIMILAR" game

Erm, no.
Jessica works as a new entry investigative reporter for a city newspaper.
As far as I am aware that is a totally different job to writing for or owning a Fashion Magazine!
 

Ragnaroekr

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Erm, no.
Jessica works as a new entry investigative reporter for a city newspaper.
As far as I am aware that is a totally different job to writing for or owning a Fashion Magazine!
You're absolutely right and I just can advise you to ignore defd. Mainly he just doesn't understand coherencies and therefore writes strange text not worth answering.
 

palmtrees89

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I perfectly know the question he posted...
do you think GGGB or The Office Wife are more similar than FB t this game (maybe the office wife is similar only on the slow update) :LOL:
Fashion Business is a female protagonist game and comes with very slow burn like AWAM (that is a 3D game and was also in his question) great Renders and Animations... ok it is with sandbox structure... but
FB tell about a woman in carrier in the fashion MAGAZINE world...
Jessica work as journalist in a Magazine (this is very similar to me)
Jessica and Monica are the most similar female protagonists you can find in this forum... they are both works in a magazine different genre of magazine but it is the most similar you can find about this point...
For sure Ashley from GGGB is a 2d model (so it is not similar) it is a school girl and she sell drugs and fuck everyone really soon... I rally would like if Jassica was similar to Ashley but I cannot see any similitude between Ashley and Jessica.

different stories of course,
Jessica is a new entry Journalist and Monica was the director of her own magazine
I do not talk about tastes... I'm just talk about "SIMILAR" games

in any case I think he got good answers about his question on Jessica O'Neil similar games.
but there are also even more similar games. ;)
...What? I....What???

How is FB being a slow burner like AWAM? Monica is getting the D's left and right working as a stripper, prostitute, office whore, slutty model, sex slave for police and prisoners among other things I shouldn't even need to mention.

And the only thing FB and JOHN have in common is the fact that both a newspaper and a fashion magazine are made of paper. There is literally nothing that connects these two games in any way.

Again...What??? :ROFLMAO:
 
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