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Pogo123

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I thought he was doing “Paola” as a break from this game, so he wouldn’t burnout and run out of ideas for this game.
But I think I heard somewhere that Paola is on hold until he gets JOHN to where he wants it to go
he started Paola primary cause he is a big fan of the author and he wanted to try something new as far as i know. as a break of JOHN tho and burnout? i don't know maybe you know more than i do here.

Of course its on hold cause many ppl said he should focus on JOHN first. And he agreed cause he didn't had much of another choice really except he would really give a sh*t about his supporter and fans opinions what he obviously doesn't do. I also think - even i think Paola is nice and a good idea, he should first go further in the story of JOHN first - that if ppl would have said "yeah stoper Poala is great if you want to do this first at the moment, do it!" he wouldn't put Paola on hold and would have released another chapter of this story already. Just my personal opinion tho.
 
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Gunizz

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I often complain about train delays in Romania. I like those trains, but they are always late damn! People ask me "why? You don't live in Romania, you'll never been there, you just look at pictures of trains on Flickr, you're not a customer". Well, I CAN complain because I like those trains, so I do complain. It's my right! I did not watch my buddies die face down in the muck so that this fucking train could been late...
 

Tennoujirex

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Yeah you are right.
Just because you are getting 10 times more money after the initial release,doesn't meant you will suddenly start to make the updates 10 times faster.Or for the same time but 10 times bigger.
Imagine same expectation for the dev that are making 1000 times more money.Are there really people that are believe it is even possible to work 1000 times faster?
This statement is devoid of logic. We support any developer because of the content of his games and the update cycle. If a game is good and gets alot of support, literally no one who supports it does so because they want the updates to reflect the monetary value, rather they want what they paid for, the update cycle that they are familiar with and the content. So, if a developer is simply punctual and consistent with his updates and content, he will continue to receive support and goodwill from all.
 

fihesog318

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I am sure most of you are kids but for adults with real jobs there are two annoying types of people you have to deal with at work: 1. the deadline misser and 2. the constant complainer. You learn to work around the deadline misser by other people picking up the slack and not relying on the deadlines you know that person will miss. It is annoying but manageable. But the constant complainer is cancer, nothing besides firing will stop this person from ruining a positive team dynamic. And for the children who will say, "are you saying you can never criticize?" You are outing yourself as a child who cannot tell the difference between criticism and constant complaining.
 

armion82

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This statement is devoid of logic. We support any developer because of the content of his games and the update cycle. If a game is good and gets alot of support, literally no one who supports it does so because they want the updates to reflect the monetary value, rather they want what they paid for, the update cycle that they are familiar with and the content. So, if a developer is simply punctual and consistent with his updates and content, he will continue to receive support and goodwill from all.
So you mean if I get 10 times more money I should work 10 times faster?Or 10 times more?
Sure thing-you probably expect Lionel Messi to score 1000 goals after his salary goes up.
 

jamdan

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Games make more money if they update quicker. Not the other way around. That doesn't mean getting more money = quicker updates. Those are unrelated things, unless the developer just has bad hardware. Which money can help buy. Other than that, money doesn't do much for update speed.

But this whole discussion is pointless. Stoper said he doesn't do this for money. Which I believe. And he also said he doesn't plan ahead much. Which I believe.

Updates aren't going to be quicker unless he changes his workflow. Which he doesn't want to do. He has talked about these things on here before.
 

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I am sure most of you are kids but for adults with real jobs there are two annoying types of people you have to deal with at work: 1. the deadline misser and 2. the constant complainer. You learn to work around the deadline misser by other people picking up the slack and not relying on the deadlines you know that person will miss. It is annoying but manageable. But the constant complainer is cancer, nothing besides firing will stop this person from ruining a positive team dynamic. And for the children who will say, "are you saying you can never criticize?" You are outing yourself as a child who cannot tell the difference between criticism and constant complaining.
Just say "Take his shit and like it" honestly.

And there's more types of people in a workplace then those two.
 

Bishop Robert

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This statement is devoid of logic. We support any developer because of the content of his games and the update cycle. If a game is good and gets alot of support, literally no one who supports it does so because they want the updates to reflect the monetary value, rather they want what they paid for, the update cycle that they are familiar with and the content. So, if a developer is simply punctual and consistent with his updates and content, he will continue to receive support and goodwill from all.
Exactly.

This and AWAM are two projects I'd like to support but I don't for reasons said before. Of course, that isn't saying they are on the same level in terms of the issues I have with them (I've been considering giving Stoper support actually but have been hit with the bills and other expenses the past two years).

I don't even have an issue with the current delay really, I was more annoyed by that whole thing with the last event/update.

What's really an annoyance is the people here who try to argue "You should have nothing to say since you don't give any money" and then the people who paint anything that's not positive as toxic negativity.
 
I am sure most of you are kids but for adults with real jobs there are two annoying types of people you have to deal with at work: 1. the deadline misser and 2. the constant complainer. You learn to work around the deadline misser by other people picking up the slack and not relying on the deadlines you know that person will miss. It is annoying but manageable. But the constant complainer is cancer, nothing besides firing will stop this person from ruining a positive team dynamic. And for the children who will say, "are you saying you can never criticize?" You are outing yourself as a child who cannot tell the difference between criticism and constant complaining.
I don't know where you work but if someone misses the deadline multiple times then they will be fired. The worst reputation you can have at a workplace is someone who always misses deadlines because no one will want to work with you or hire you.

I know workplaces that put up with annoying people if they are incredibly good at their job. E.g. a salesman that is a prick but he outsells everyone for like triple the product. A company will keep that guy and drop the guy that misses deadline/misses quota.
 

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I don't know where you work but if someone misses the deadline multiple times then they will be fired. The worst reputation you can have at a workplace is someone who always misses deadlines because no one will want to work with you or hire you.

I know workplaces that put up with annoying people if they are incredibly good at their job. E.g. a salesman that is a prick but he outsells everyone for like triple the product. A company will keep that guy and drop the guy that misses deadline/misses quota.
Stoper is that salesperson you describe who is creating a product triple the quality of most of his peers. The constant complainers on this site they create nothing but their negative constant whining. If you fire Stoper the high quality creator who misses deadlines then you are a poor manager
 

Fuckito

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Sorry, some comments just don't make sense. If my supporters have increased and I am also making more money, it does not mean that the updates will be slowed by 2 times in each release. Nobody is saying it will be 10 times faster. Also, the developer sets deadlines before each release, but most of them don't keep their word. This means that even he himself knows that it is too late. Many developers say they'll aim to release more content and faster updates as their patreons multiply. On the contrary, as the patreons increase in this game, the updates get slower every year. I don't understand how it makes sense to argue that this is normal.

If I were a developer, if I couldn't release updates faster, I wouldn't slow down updates any more, at least to respect the many people who support me. I live on all the money I earn every month, but I can't give my supporters an update every 8 months. Also, I can't keep my promises. You have to be an irrational person to defend this situation.
 

BartPS

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First, learn what it means to make a promise. Either keep your promise or don't make any promises at all. But wait a minute please, it's his hobby not to stick to his word, he didn't do it on purpose.

Oh come on honey really? Okay, interesting hobby, I've never encountered it before. But my hobby is playing games for free and complaining. My biggest hobby is playing and complaining about the games of the developers who are famous for not keeping their word.

But wait, don't be mad at me, I didn't do it on purpose, it's just a hobby. But at least I didn't promise not to do them. :giggle:
Well I haven't seen where anyone is "mad" at you.

In any case, just as you most certainly have the right to complain about something (even if others think your complaints are unjustified), others have the same right to complain about your complaints.

Also you're really stretching when you say "it's his hobby not to stick to his word". Underestimating the time it will take to complete something is a fault many of us share, but a hobby??? Really???

On the other hand you claim that complaining is one of your main hobbies and I tend to believe you. So yes, your self-awareness is admirable, but I'd venture that stoperArt's hobby is a lot more admirable than yours.
 
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Tennoujirex

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So you mean if I get 10 times more money I should work 10 times faster?Or 10 times more?
Sure thing-you probably expect Lionel Messi to score 1000 goals after his salary goes up.
Just reading this tells me that you either did not read what i said or have difficulty understanding it.
Since your'e too blinded by your bias in defending stoper let me try to explain it as simply as i can.
I said nobody expects that the dev should work harder or faster just because he makes more money now, they expect him to just continue on with his update cycle as he has been with punctuality and no major delays unless theres some serious problems.
Get that? If not then theres no helping you.
 
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She still sleeping....An one and a few moment later she still sleeping?.....What The?....
She still sleeping....A few and an one moment before She still sleeping?..... What? She always like this.
Good luck to you, is you still support her. Good luck for who not support her and keep asking for update. Go watch porn my friend It's more
Realistic!!!
Yeah it this!!!
Realistic!!!
Because is a real woman.
 
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:cry: Damn I miss when this typical one was focused on specific scenes and various hypotheses like the mysterious Vigilante

Anyway.. I don't want to offend you But they would be arguing with each other it won't lead anywhere and also about supporting or not oh stoper himself has already said that money will not change anything in his work in the game full time the only thing left for us to do is wait unfortunately but everyone here has their right to express themselves the way they think is best but be careful with the ban only a warning indeed.
 
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MestoTesto

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Well I haven't seen where anyone is "mad" at you.

In any case, just as you most certainly have the right to complain about something (even if others think your complaints are unjustified), others have the same right to complain about your complaints.

Also you're really stretching when you say "it's his hobby not to stick to his word". Underestimating the time it will take to complete something is a fault many of us share, but a hobby??? Really???

On the other hand you claim that complaining is one of your main hobbies and I tend to believe you. So yes, your self-awareness is admirable, but I'd venture that stoperArt's hobby is a lot more admirable than yours.
I think my comment was misunderstood. In the reply to this comment, there was a derogatory sentence that insulted me. While replying to that sentence, I tried to explain why I made this comment. You can see it on the previous page. I also wrote in my answer that I do not have such a hobby. I wrote that I was commenting in a humorous approach by making an analogy because of some of the comments I read.

Dead or alive, I'm releasing the update. What is the meaning of this sentence? In short, I have no excuses and no defense anymore, whatever you say means you are right. But there are still those who defend this situation. I approached this situation with humor. Because he did not fulfill his promise many times and because his last promise was so big, I wanted to tell you that there are those who try to see it as a cute hobby.

The humorous approach may seem a little different since I'm translating with Google. I know Stoper doesn't have such a hobby, but I couldn't understand why those who treat breaking their promises as if it's a simple and harmless hobby are so harsh towards those who complain. After all, this is a pirate forum. Developers have accounts here and the content they publish, and they gain customers here. They know that there are those who play the game for free.

Finally, anyone who wants can complain to my comment. I can understand your complaint. Not everyone has to think like me, but it is not the right approach to say shut up to a user who does not pay in a pirated forum. Moreover, let's not forget that those who complain here can be a supporter.
 
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PietruccioTheHilander

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:cry: Damn I miss when this typical one was focused on specific scenes and various hypotheses like the mysterious Vigilante

Anyway.. I don't want to offend you But they would be arguing with each other it won't lead anywhere and also about supporting or not oh stoper himself has already said that money will not change anything in his work in the game full time the only thing left for us to do is wait unfortunately but everyone here has their right to express themselves the way they think is best but be careful with the ban only a warning indeed.
we kept hoping for the new rtx4090.
stoper plans to buy it; if the forecasts are good, it could speed up the process of creating the scene a little (laying the clothes and checking the interactions between objects is the part that takes the most time); otherwise if he wants to accelerate he has to cut on the graphic quality and the precision of the details.
 
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