jojozz

Member
Game Developer
Apr 12, 2021
431
11,222
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
 

tmu500

Well-Known Member
Apr 14, 2024
1,028
840
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
Thank you for the post. For me, the MC and renders were GOOD, and I enjoyed the story a lot. Thank you for the hard work.
 

OhGodNotAgain

Well-Known Member
Aug 11, 2023
1,598
4,146
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
I had no issues with your vn, which is why I supported it when I was able too. The mc was young and naive, but I can't remember anything unlikable about him. The renders looked good IMO. I would support you on Subscribestar.
 

Kvr64##

Member
Mar 13, 2021
263
231
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
I thought the pacing was fine, noting really slowed or rushed, the renders were great and the Mc seemed like a normal guy nothing unlikable about him. And if you do start over would it just be a remake of Juno Task cause I think everything around it is great.
 
Aug 16, 2023
117
172
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
While I can sympathize with your perfectionist mindset and wanting everything to match a standard that you know you can achieve, it would be WAY BETTER to continue & finish as opposed to starting over. You have built up a decent following (as far as I can tell anyway) whose expectations are based upon what you already delivered - not based upon what you could deliver.

A complete VN with your current art and story would still be better than 75-90% of any VNs out there AND would go a long way to helping support any subsequent projects. Permanently abandoning would sour your relationship with a lot of fans and would likely result in fewer following along with your next project.

FWIW... If I were you, I would finish Juno's Task in the style that it is now, then make another game or two (either different from OR continuing to build upon the world of Juno's Task). After that, and once your skillset has leveled up even further, remake Juno's Task in a way that is a HUGE improvement over the original. Doing it that way would both excite fans of the original version and attract new people who never played the original.
 

NeroZee

Well-Known Member
Jun 24, 2018
1,849
5,622
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
Hey man glad you are still around.

You know i understand what you are saying, a lot of devs get to a point where they evolve with the game they make, they become more aware of the flaws of the earlier updates. And i do understand the concerns you have, i think the weakest part of the game is the MC, he is kinda dull, he doesnt react as naturally to things as he should and has no personality. My personal pet peeve with him is he would have giant naked tits right in front of his face and he would have the most stoic reaction ever despite the fact that he lookes like a 19 year old scrawny kid that would absolutely lose his mind in a situation like that.

However there is also a lot of strength in your game. A lot of the models are amazing, a lot of the female characters are great and interesting, the story/plot itself is unique and refreshing. I dunno how well you remember but i especially told you how much i love what you did with some of the characters in the game like Lilith, she feels like a proper, manipulative, sexy villain. I mean i asked people in the GFX thread to make her as my signature in the first place for a reason.

At the end of the day whatever you do with the game is up to you, I do hope you continue though and i dont think you need to rework all that much, just tweak the MC a bit so he has more natural reactions to the things around him, everything else is decent and in the latest updates even great. It be a shame to drop this altogether with your level of talent.

Anyway good luck man, if you still wanna continue with the game, we will be here for you, take care.
 
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Buster Himen

Member
Oct 6, 2019
298
392
Here's what it feels like happened. I've heard this "perfectionist" jazz on several other forum boards when in actuality, the dev wrote themselves into a corner or they just wanna take the money and run. I'm not trying to downplay whatever you're feeling as you owe no one on this site an explanation but if you had an ending in mind, you do owe it to the people on your patreon who supported you for "x" number of years funding this game. To anyone saying people understand the risk when they fund a game, while this may be true, this game has had the patrons on the hook for 4 years now. If you plan on starting over to improve it, good for you, but I nor anyone else who's been on here long enough expects that to come to fruition. At the very least, go for one final push and release it to your patrons. At the very least, it is commendable I suppose that you are coming out and saying you're done instead of just ghosting everyone.
 

porotropo

Active Member
Apr 21, 2018
759
769
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
I would love to see those renders!! Especially everything related to Natalya, my favorite character.
Thank you very much and greetings, I hope the game returns in the way you want.
 

*Dreamer*

Active Member
May 2, 2017
642
1,267
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
I was really looking forward to this update because of Vivian (Mother of Veronica)... will there be new renderers in the pack with pictures from the next version 0.6 with her? :love:
do as your heart dictates about the game, but as fans of your game, we are ready to wait even if the game is redone from the beginning ;)
 
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Why did people got sensitive over the abondoned tag all of the sudden when it used to be the other way around? Its not that hard, if the dev goes silent for x amount of time it should be placed the correspondent tag. There is no reason for controversy here, its really really simple. Thats why there are rules over these kind of stuff.
 

Punto

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Jun 18, 2020
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So I would also like to contribute to the game. Praise and thank the DEV. He may suddenly have doubts, but I also read a lot from other commentators who are overwhelmingly positive. I like the game extremely much. The fantasy elements are also great. Cheer up DEV. Of course, at some point you start with an idea and develop it. To this day I don't see any indication that it wasn't good, so move on. You can always improve as you develop.
Better graphics, adjusting or adjusting the MC's profile and much more. It's like forging, hitting it with a hammer or using a file to do fine work. It's such a beautiful game that it would be a shame to throw it all away. Please keep going DEV, I think many will thank you.


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(y) (y) (y):love::love:
 

tmu500

Well-Known Member
Apr 14, 2024
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So I would also like to contribute to the game. Praise and thank the DEV. He may suddenly have doubts, but I also read a lot from other commentators who are overwhelmingly positive. I like the game extremely much. The fantasy elements are also great. Cheer up DEV. Of course, at some point you start with an idea and develop it. To this day I don't see any indication that it wasn't good, so move on. You can always improve as you develop.
Better graphics, adjusting or adjusting the MC's profile and much more. It's like forging, hitting it with a hammer or using a file to do fine work. It's such a beautiful game that it would be a shame to throw it all away. Please keep going DEV, I think many will thank you.


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(y) (y) (y):love::love:
I think we all hope dev continue this amazing game.
 

no_name_742

Active Member
Aug 9, 2017
905
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ill respect the dev decision whatever it may be but i will respectfully disagree with all of it what they said.

Unlikeable MC
Nothing wrong with the MC, they just were kinda normal person, not some generic mc that you see in most games. i liked this MC more then the majority of games on this site.

Bad renders/Models
UMMMMMM what, the models are amazing. i cant even say anything else.

Weird pacing
i dont see anything wrong with the pacing, maybe just because it was relatively slow on the update schedule (being on hold didnt help). the only thing i could think of is its kinda hard to figure out where the side story connects to the main story but i just assumed after a few updates it would connect, or maybe even the set for the story progression.

Overall i though this game was wonderful as it was. im sorry about patreon, theres not much to be done about that and its understandable reason to walk away. What ever the next thing the dev works on i hope it has a fun mother-daughter theme going on there just isnt enough of that. Good luck to the dev on whatever they work on next, heres hoping we see it here.

One final point, regardless of my thoughts of this game, planning is always good, having an idea of were your story is going, knowing where it will end, will always be better then winging it, dont over do it though, being a perfectionist can cause the whole thing to crumble.
 

HX_Eros

Member
Jun 7, 2021
240
132
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
I've seen your work first hand and I can say whatever you decide to do will be worth the wait.
Especially using Leyla, and Yazmine in your future.

~ Horus
 

Gamerboybst64

Member
Jun 8, 2018
176
259
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
First of all thanks for the honesty. It is good when a dev comes clear about the future of the game. This game is easily in top 5 on the forum and arts/models/animations are top notch. I would hope that you decide to continue your magnum opus as abandoning it won't do it justice.
 

keefer43

Well-Known Member
Dec 24, 2019
1,595
2,525
Hello,

I will try to keep it short.
Thank you to everyone for the kind messages and support.

Bottom line: I am either going to start over or not continue at all.
I just feel like 3/4 of the game was made rushed/without planning and resulted in:
Unlikeable MC
Bad renders/Models
Weird pacing

I came to this realization after the last update and was kind of dumbfounded that I was oblivious to these issues. Its hard for me to look at the early game. I just feel like everything is mediocre and I want it to be great.

Originally, I was going to abandon it altogether but a part of me does want to continue if I can start from scratch. Maybe doing a few renders each weekend till I get a more consistent schedule. However, I am still thinking about it.

I think the "abandon" tag would be appropriate despite what I said above, because my plans are up in the air and I don't people to feel anticipation something is going to happen soon.

For patreon supporters, thank you for supporting me and I'm sorry I couldn't read/respond to messages while my account was essentially locked down. My patreon is done and I don't think I would go back to patreon in the future.
--------------------------------
Upcoming plans:
1. I have about 600+ renders that were on my mega that I may post here if people want. These are comprised of holiday renders, pinups, unreleased renders

2. Not sure if I will release models or not. A lot of them are "custom" with some textures edited in photoshop and morphs made in Blender, so I would have to make actual character models rather than listing morphs out. I always enjoyed fan art and was curious what people would do with characters from the VN but now I don't know if people would still want to.


I won't be online much, so if I don't respond to messages or respond late, that's the main reason.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm people had for the VN and was determined before that I wasn't going to abandon it. I just wish I had planned/done things differently so it wouldn't be in the state that it is currently in.

Cheers!
Finish it if you can. I liked your game and it's premise - fairly unique and entertaining. Great artwork. Show us you can finish it and there will be also a payoff to you likely.
 
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